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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
March 27 2023 00:36 GMT
#1101
yes, confirmed wiped
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 01:22:34
March 27 2023 01:05 GMT
#1102
After playing sorc, rogue, and necro, holy shit is necro OP, prolly gonna main one of those bad buys in June
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
March 27 2023 01:42 GMT
#1103
I probably won't be touching D4 before July/August. Not only I want to actually use some vacation for once but also I want to wait out for the first batch of patches and hype to maybe die down a bit as I don't want to be bothered with queues and such when I have absolutely no interest in using the multiplayer features of the game.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
March 27 2023 02:04 GMT
#1104


I wonder if Blizz is going to fix the potential exploits that were discovered and theorized about in this video, like legendary feeding etc.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
March 27 2023 02:44 GMT
#1105
On March 27 2023 10:42 Manit0u wrote:
I probably won't be touching D4 before July/August. Not only I want to actually use some vacation for once but also I want to wait out for the first batch of patches and hype to maybe die down a bit as I don't want to be bothered with queues and such when I have absolutely no interest in using the multiplayer features of the game.

yeah I'm also waiting a month. Though for me it's moreso waiting for endgame reviews, along with dodging queue and early stability issues

I'm a bit worried nightmare dungeons will be dull re-hashes of campaign dungeons. I'm not super convinced by that interview where they tried to assuage those concerns. I know there will be map affixs and what not, but I'd need something more than just difficulty mods
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
March 27 2023 04:36 GMT
#1106
I'll probably watch season 1 and decide if I want to play season 2 got other games to play not sure yet about D4.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 09:11:01
March 27 2023 09:09 GMT
#1107
Yeah, I don't think I'll play much D4, aside from character customization and cinematics Last Epoch seems to be better in every single aspect. So, I'm kinda waiting to see what the D4 will look like upon release and initial round of stability and balance patches. Then I'll play through, doing 100% map completion if possible on normal/veteran and if it's good I'll give it a go at higher difficulties. Not interested in the "end game" at all, for me that'll be 100% clearing the game on max difficulty, don't care about any potential rifts and such.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
March 27 2023 11:15 GMT
#1108
On March 27 2023 02:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well we are stuck in the first act area for the beta....

I also get the feeling that we are going to be stuck with the limited inventory size. Hope I'm wrong though.


Microtransactions hello?

I dabbled a bit with the Druid and with a werwolf/ werbear build the very first storyboss (lvl 5) was unsolvable while with every other option (lightning/ rocks/ wind) it was a breeze. Trade-off melee vs ranged is huuuuuuuuuuge. It's not just the Barbarian that sucks, it's melee
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17713 Posts
March 27 2023 12:19 GMT
#1109
On March 27 2023 20:15 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2023 02:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well we are stuck in the first act area for the beta....

I also get the feeling that we are going to be stuck with the limited inventory size. Hope I'm wrong though.


Microtransactions hello?

I dabbled a bit with the Druid and with a werwolf/ werbear build the very first storyboss (lvl 5) was unsolvable while with every other option (lightning/ rocks/ wind) it was a breeze. Trade-off melee vs ranged is huuuuuuuuuuge. It's not just the Barbarian that sucks, it's melee


My friend killed first boss in 22 seconds with melee rogue. I guess it's not that bad?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
March 27 2023 12:48 GMT
#1110
Druid is just way undertuned.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
March 27 2023 13:19 GMT
#1111
On March 27 2023 21:19 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2023 20:15 Harris1st wrote:
On March 27 2023 02:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well we are stuck in the first act area for the beta....

I also get the feeling that we are going to be stuck with the limited inventory size. Hope I'm wrong though.


Microtransactions hello?

I dabbled a bit with the Druid and with a werwolf/ werbear build the very first storyboss (lvl 5) was unsolvable while with every other option (lightning/ rocks/ wind) it was a breeze. Trade-off melee vs ranged is huuuuuuuuuuge. It's not just the Barbarian that sucks, it's melee


My friend killed first boss in 22 seconds with melee rogue. I guess it's not that bad?


On March 27 2023 21:48 Velr wrote:
Druid is just way undertuned.


Haha well just my luck then that the first two classes I try are Barb and Druid and both suck (for the beta at least)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19322 Posts
March 27 2023 13:32 GMT
#1112
On March 27 2023 22:19 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2023 21:19 Manit0u wrote:
On March 27 2023 20:15 Harris1st wrote:
On March 27 2023 02:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well we are stuck in the first act area for the beta....

I also get the feeling that we are going to be stuck with the limited inventory size. Hope I'm wrong though.


Microtransactions hello?

I dabbled a bit with the Druid and with a werwolf/ werbear build the very first storyboss (lvl 5) was unsolvable while with every other option (lightning/ rocks/ wind) it was a breeze. Trade-off melee vs ranged is huuuuuuuuuuge. It's not just the Barbarian that sucks, it's melee


My friend killed first boss in 22 seconds with melee rogue. I guess it's not that bad?


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2023 21:48 Velr wrote:
Druid is just way undertuned.


Haha well just my luck then that the first two classes I try are Barb and Druid and both suck (for the beta at least)

I think the important part of respec is being able to change your Druid to adapt to your challenges. First boss, range was the smart play. But get to Level 9+ and Bear is such a solid choice for dealing with tons of aggro or participating in public events.

I’ve really enjoyed to versatility of the Druid. Reminds me of my old WoW days.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 27 2023 15:03 GMT
#1113
The pulverize skill for werebear is really good for mobs. Get the upgrade that guarantees an overpower for every 10 seconds you are healthy. You can go mob to mob just wrecking them. 10 seconds is enough to pulverize a group, clean up, and have it ready when you move to the next group.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
March 27 2023 15:17 GMT
#1114
I don't see how people can stand that Asmongold guy - I heard his name before, but never watched him. Tried watching 3 of his videos this week...terrible. Everything is either big dick damage or fking garbage or it sucks. There are only those 2 options and things constantly switch between those 2. When he started a game with druid and the character needed 3 hits for a warg, the character was already written off. Then he gets a new ability and he 'finished the game'. The guy sounds like he's 14, not in his thirties.

This guy is so much better to listen to:
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 17:27:04
March 27 2023 17:25 GMT
#1115
Well Asmon is pretty self centered when it comes to gaming, especially when it comes to raids etc. One of the reasons why he quit FFXIV is because people were telling him not to do certain things as he would cause wipes constantly; then he quit when he realized you can't install addons thus no advantage.

But he does make sense in terms of balance, bugs etc.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 19:36:18
March 27 2023 19:13 GMT
#1116
And the open beta has ended. But I am still in the game somehow, and am stuck in the boss room. Can't TP out lol and I am a lvl 10 Barb. Purgatory basically.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8655 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 19:24:01
March 27 2023 19:23 GMT
#1117
On March 28 2023 04:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
And the open beta has ended. But I am still in the game somehow, am am stuck in the boss room. Can't TP out lol and I am a lvl 10 Barb. Purgatory basically.


Same, lol.

I started a sorc today and rushed through the story to compare the power level (barb vs sorc) vs the final boss und yeah, it was an absolute cakewalk on sorc... The power level is off the charts. You just spec into random stuff and do massive damage to everything, lol.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 20:28:39
March 27 2023 20:04 GMT
#1118
Was basically stuck in the bottom two floors of the dungeon. Simply logged out and uninstalled the beta.

Overall grade of the Beta.... B- tbh.

The positives: World artwork, Sound design, Voice acting is top notch (Ralph Ineson especially. Here's hoping he becomes a main char throughout the game).

Middle of the road: Balance... something will need to be done with Melee chars. Give them passive defense against stuns and other CC that bosses use, I honestly don't know.

Sorc > Necro > Rogue > Barb > Druid all in that order from most powerful to weakest. Druid is especially horrible. I'm really hoping that mobs don't scale with your char and that it was for the beta. In a live game it will be just lazy design tbh.

The bad: The UI is horrible... at the very least there should be 9-10 slots for the action bar. Not 6 with two being for the left and right mouse clicks. Dumb. That's not even considering your Chars ultimate that needs a slot as well, which should not be the case. At this time there are 3 slots for skills.... why?

Stats on items need to be fixed/adjusted as well.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 20:37:34
March 27 2023 20:34 GMT
#1119
On March 27 2023 18:09 Manit0u wrote:
Yeah, I don't think I'll play much D4, aside from character customization and cinematics Last Epoch seems to be better in every single aspect. So, I'm kinda waiting to see what the D4 will look like upon release and initial round of stability and balance patches. Then I'll play through, doing 100% map completion if possible on normal/veteran and if it's good I'll give it a go at higher difficulties. Not interested in the "end game" at all, for me that'll be 100% clearing the game on max difficulty, don't care about any potential rifts and such.

Yay another LE fan, imo still the best ARPG currently playable. Tbf I haven't played LA, so no idea how it compares.

Overall I prefer the grimness of D4 and LE has some problems in terms of storytelling in general imo, but at least in terms of skilltree depth I vastly prefer LE so far. The main gameplay loop is pretty similar even for ARPGs.

On March 28 2023 05:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Was basically stuck in the bottom two floors of the dungeon. Simply logged out and uninstalled the beta.

Overall grade of the Beta.... B- tbh.

The positives: World artwork, Sound design, Voice acting is top notch (Ralph Ineson especially. Here's hoping he becomes a main char throughout the game).

Middle of the road: Balance... something will need to be done with Melee chars. Give them passive defense against stuns and other CC that bosses use, I honestly don't know.

Sorc > Necro > Rogue > Barb > Druid all in that order from most powerful to weakest. Druid is especially horrible. I'm really hoping that mobs don't scale with your char and that it was for the beta. In a live game it will be just lazy design tbh.

The bad: The UI is horrible... at the very least there should be 9-10 slots for the action bar. Not 6 with two being for the left and right mouse clicks. Dumb. Stats on items need to be fixed as well.

Pretty much agree on all of this, especially bossfights are so much easier as a ranged class. If the mob isn't dead int he first 30 seconds as a melee you're in a world of hurt because these random ass swings will whittle you down even if you are very good at dancing around all the other random shit and aoes flying your way.

My main worry rn are skilltree-depth and monetization though. I played my rogue to 25 and tbh I could maybe spend 10 more points meaningfully, that's still 15 left till Paragon that would probably go into the very boring +3% damage passives and not really feel like level-ups and there's no telling how interesting Paragon levels are.

I agree that I feel skill slot starved and it really limits options because a lot of the time it's less about comboing stuff that's supposed to combo and more 'have a bunch of skills that blow up hordes and have a bunch of skills that kill elites'. Low number of slots works in LE where every skill has a skilltree and can be heavily customized, but in D4 it just feels like I constantly want more options and can't have them. This harms especially CCs that are both entirely useless in boss fights and don't benefit as much from a higher point investment on average.

Balancing is another issue, especially on the skills that are mechanically weak. Like why would I incinerate when I can just deal more damage in less time with the ice shards while staying mobile? And don't get me started on charged bolt.
I'm somewhat positive that balance will get mostly fixed eventually though, but at times the numbers are just asinine.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11792 Posts
March 27 2023 20:40 GMT
#1120
On March 28 2023 05:34 Archeon wrote:
Yay another LE fan, imo still the best ARPG currently playable. Tbf I haven't played LA, so no idea how it compares.

Overall I prefer the grimness of D4 and LE has some problems in terms of storytelling in general imo, but at least in terms of skilltree depth I vastly prefer LE so far. The main gameplay loop is pretty similar even for ARPGs.


How is the monetization model of Last Epoch? Any microtransactions or other bullshit, or just buy game have game?
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