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Miragee
8690 Posts
On December 10 2022 05:56 andrewlt wrote: I'm less negative on this game than many of you but something still tells me many of you will buy it before me and will be reviewing it for me. I would agree with you if this was a random youtube comment section. Here I feel like if people say they wait, they probably will. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On December 09 2022 18:13 Latham wrote: Basically if they can keep their grubby little paws off the 'MONETIZE HARDER" button, it just *might* be a good game. But don't believe the pre-release reviews because they've already "optimized" monetization in the past (D Immortal) between the copies they sent out to reviewers and the full release version available to the general public on day 1. The logic of this video is nonexistent. Sure, Blizzard could be lying about monetization in Diablo IV, but Diablo Immortal doesn't prove that. There isn't a logical connection made for why we should keep Diablo Immortal in mind when thinking about Diablo IV except lawl don't trust Blizzard. And since when is 1080p low quality? This is the first time I have ever heard anyone say that 1080p is, essentially, trash. Stuff like this makes me question the worth of the uploader's opinions. | ||
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Miragee
8690 Posts
On December 10 2022 14:13 DeepElemBlues wrote: The logic of this video is nonexistent. Sure, Blizzard could be lying about monetization in Diablo IV, but Diablo Immortal doesn't prove that. There isn't a logical connection made for why we should keep Diablo Immortal in mind when thinking about Diablo IV except lawl don't trust Blizzard. And since when is 1080p low quality? This is the first time I have ever heard anyone say that 1080p is, essentially, trash. Stuff like this makes me question the worth of the uploader's opinions. Haven't watched the video but the connection probably is: Blizzard lied about p2w in Immoral, why would I trust their word now? Which is reasonable. If someone has been caught lying in this fashion it's better to wait and see for yourself instead of trusting their word. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Miragee
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Archeon
3271 Posts
On December 13 2022 00:21 Miragee wrote: I think there is only personal loot. You can't even see the loot of the other person iirc. There is no way Blizzard would go for ffa style looting in this day and age. That's one of the few real grimes I have with d2, managing loot distribution is beyond annoying. On December 10 2022 14:13 DeepElemBlues wrote: The logic of this video is nonexistent. Sure, Blizzard could be lying about monetization in Diablo IV, but Diablo Immortal doesn't prove that. There isn't a logical connection made for why we should keep Diablo Immortal in mind when thinking about Diablo IV except lawl don't trust Blizzard. And since when is 1080p low quality? This is the first time I have ever heard anyone say that 1080p is, essentially, trash. Stuff like this makes me question the worth of the uploader's opinions. 1080p is fairly low if you want to judge how good a game looks, especially with an isometric look where the devil is definitely in the details. Imo in his video the game looks good, but not that different from PoE or D2R. Diablo Immortal (and to a lesser extent Overwatch 2) showed that they very much are willing to monetize PC releases to a level that is already very greedy by mobile market standards. In general Blizz went from a company that values product quality and PvP fairness to a company that monetizes every aspect of their game and most of their recent releases are about milking their players as much as providing a fun game, so any trust that that won't be the case for their next release needs to be earned. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
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hgfghfrteert
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Archeon
3271 Posts
On December 13 2022 04:50 hgfghfrteert wrote: *mod edit* Depends on what you want to do and what you want to play. I played through the base game and it was fine. But lategame and PvP are entirely pay2win. Lategame is also pretty boring btw. | ||
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Miragee
8690 Posts
On December 13 2022 03:41 Archeon wrote: That's one of the few real grimes I have with d2, managing loot distribution is beyond annoying. In PoE the party leader can toggle locked, semi-locked or ffa. I think that's a good system for an arpg. On December 13 2022 05:20 Archeon wrote: Depends on what you want to do and what you want to play. I played through the base game and it was fine. But lategame and PvP are entirely pay2win. Lategame is also pretty boring btw. It's also pay to not be annoyed. A friend of mine tried to do a dungeon a bit above his level to challenge himself and got greated by a shop window he couldn't close so he played the whole dungeon with the window covering the middle of his screen. Fantastic game design. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17800 Posts
It seems there's some considerable crunch and development hell around D4. I wonder if they'll be able to bring it home. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7326 Posts
On December 13 2022 05:44 Miragee wrote: In PoE the party leader can toggle locked, semi-locked or ffa. I think that's a good system for an arpg. It's also pay to not be annoyed. A friend of mine tried to do a dungeon a bit above his level to challenge himself and got greated by a shop window he couldn't close so he played the whole dungeon with the window covering the middle of his screen. Fantastic game design. Well, he wanted a challenge xD | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8913 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17708 Posts
On December 13 2022 06:49 Manit0u wrote: It seems there's some considerable crunch and development hell around D4. I wonder if they'll be able to bring it home. wait a year... if people like the game... then buy it. You can probably pick it up for half the price as well. I do this strat with most games. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
"If You're A Diablo 2 Player You Should Watch This Video About Diablo 4 | D2 vs D4 What To Expect" | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/@MrLlamaSC/videos A small pet peeve of mine: Each character skill apparently has two upgrade options or something, and the names are SUPER lazy. For example, the Rogue's Flurry upgrades are called Improved Flurry and Advanced Flurry, neither of which help explain anything and they're just synonyms. Also, so many add/multiply percentages to base weapons, a lot of which isn't clearly explained. I'd much rather see real damage numbers, generally independent from the weapons. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2435 Posts
I don't know, I doubt say D2's skills sound very interesting all plastered up onto a webpage either so it may not be a fair comparison. What I think is pretty hard to argue is that when your build's performance depends critically on a bunch of small incremental selections that don't play together in obvious ways, there's no longer any "roleplay" reason to pick one build over another, so everyone just looks up the best build. Making teleport into a lightning charge is kinda cool, I guess. And burning and chilled/frozen should be quite visually clear and visceral things that make sense for other skills to work off of so they have some potential for cool things. | ||
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