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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1592 Posts
October 16 2019 03:13 GMT
#1
https://streamable.com/dvypp here is the teaser trailer of the project in its early development phase.

What do you guys think? Looks like a mix of CSGO and Overwatch yeah? I'm hyped for it tbh.

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Connor5620
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia200 Posts
October 17 2019 13:38 GMT
#2
i don't see why everyone is jumping on riots dick with this game it is literally nothing new...?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-17 16:25:22
October 17 2019 16:24 GMT
#3
Seems to be a generic FPS/CS type of game, would need to be know more before I get too excited. Perhaps at next year's E3 they'll show more of it.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17240 Posts
October 18 2019 00:01 GMT
#4
It looks like MOBA well has dried up and they want to get on the BR bandwagon but it's too late already.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 00:21:21
October 18 2019 00:16 GMT
#5
Literally CS:GO with Overwatch heroes that have grenades as their unique skills.

But I am not a big fan of riot overall so I will not try this or their TCG or whatever else that 3rd game they showed was.
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 06:20:40
October 18 2019 06:19 GMT
#6
It literally is something new because we don't have an overwatch-like game with CSGO's TTK.
In fact, we don't have any decent competitive FPS game for quite a while now, if you don't want to play CSGO.
Looking forward to trying it out, looks exciting.

On October 18 2019 09:01 Manit0u wrote:
It looks like MOBA well has dried up and they want to get on the BR bandwagon but it's too late already.


wasn't it specifically stated that it's not BR?
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6876 Posts
October 18 2019 10:04 GMT
#7
Looks like Team Fortress 2
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 18 2019 16:26 GMT
#8
On October 18 2019 15:19 abuse wrote:
It literally is something new because we don't have an overwatch-like game with CSGO's TTK.
In fact, we don't have any decent competitive FPS game for quite a while now, if you don't want to play CSGO.
Looking forward to trying it out, looks exciting.

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On October 18 2019 09:01 Manit0u wrote:
It looks like MOBA well has dried up and they want to get on the BR bandwagon but it's too late already.


wasn't it specifically stated that it's not BR?

Rainbow Six Siege? Hero shooter mechanic with every single character being different toolset wise, and sub 0.5 seconds lethal TTK.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 18 2019 18:30 GMT
#9
i dont really understand the hype. obviously the game is still in alpha stage but it looks like CSGO + TF2, with really bland character and art design. Their goal is to make the game be able to run on as many machines as possible, but at the same time it just looks milquetoast.

Runeterra (LoL card game) also looks like a shitty low-quality mobile TCG game set on the TFT map.

Overall, there is very little to no creative innovation or growth for these Riot titles. Riot has no proof that they can make a quality game outside of League, which took them years to make good in the first place.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 18 2019 21:26 GMT
#10
Yeah it's going to be a tough challenge for Riot. Having just burned a lot of community good will lately, though they somehow still seem to have plenty, isn't going to help.

More importantly is that LoL released without real competition. WC3 DotA was a pain the ass to play, Demigod flopped, HoN wasn't out yet (and was HoN) and that was it for MOBAs and... that was it. "Having working netcode and match making" was the bar to entry for the market at the time.

It's going to be a lot different when you're talking about entering markets that are established. Even TFT, which was still a reasonably ripe market, hasn't really had a lasting impact (Twitch viewers have dropped from 100k avg daily to 8k).
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17240 Posts
October 19 2019 00:53 GMT
#11
On October 19 2019 06:26 Logo wrote:
Yeah it's going to be a tough challenge for Riot. Having just burned a lot of community good will lately, though they somehow still seem to have plenty, isn't going to help.

More importantly is that LoL released without real competition. WC3 DotA was a pain the ass to play, Demigod flopped, HoN wasn't out yet (and was HoN) and that was it for MOBAs and... that was it. "Having working netcode and match making" was the bar to entry for the market at the time.

It's going to be a lot different when you're talking about entering markets that are established. Even TFT, which was still a reasonably ripe market, hasn't really had a lasting impact (Twitch viewers have dropped from 100k avg daily to 8k).


Oh man, thanks for reminding me about Demigod. I know it was a buggy and flawed mess when it launched but I actually liked it. It's the only MOBA that really got unique hero design and some cool ideas outside of the standard stuff. I'm going to install it and relive the nostalgia since it actually has single-player
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4158 Posts
October 20 2019 03:34 GMT
#12
On October 17 2019 22:38 Connor5620 wrote:
i don't see why everyone is jumping on riots dick with this game it is literally nothing new...?

I think its because they're a big company, overdue for a project, they're been picking up a lot of great talent over the years, they used to have the biggest game in the world, so people are excited what they have to do next.

Not to mention, Countersrike hasn't had serious competition outside of Asia in a long time with Quake Champions flopping.

There's potential to this project.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 20 2019 09:57 GMT
#13
They can leverage the IP and do marketing better then other companies, as long as they throw enough money at it I can see it working out.

Heroes of the Storm failed because they were way too late in an oversatured space and not enough money.
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WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 18:11:37
October 20 2019 18:08 GMT
#14
On October 19 2019 06:26 Logo wrote:More importantly is that LoL released without real competition. WC3 DotA was a pain the ass to play, Demigod flopped, HoN wasn't out yet (and was HoN) and that was it for MOBAs and... that was it. "Having working netcode and match making" was the bar to entry for the market at the time.


Little unfair though. Dota2 was already released when most people I knew started playing league, and the biggest reason they picked league was "it isnt dota"...

Riot has grown a lot over the years. I never really played their other things besides League, but I had a lot of fun with that game for a long time so I'll be excited to see how this game pans out.

Hoping for
  • not a "loadout" based fps, but resources spread across the map so map control actually plays a role except for "capture points"
  • small maps
  • longer TTK than CS, but shorter than overwatch
  • no instakill weapons
  • not a bunch of characters like Overwatch, its fine releasing a game where everyone is just a generic swat/soldier
  • no lootboxes
  • no gimmicky abilities
  • 1v1 competitive ladder to complement a 3v3/5v5 ladder
  • please no push the cart or bomb defusal modes, please bring back deatchmatch/capture the flag


edit
Heroes of the Storm failed because they were way too late in an oversatured space and not enough money.

not only that, but it was way too casual for that game genre. from what I've heard most people didn't take it seriously, and blizz probably could've marketed it better too. but yeah, if that game came out like 10 years sooner...
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4158 Posts
October 21 2019 03:34 GMT
#15
Is there a reason why you dislike CS style load outs?

I'm all for longer ttk.

Its really annoying when I like a new FPS, and people moan about everyone being so tanky and tsk being too long. I like long drawn out fps fights, and it doesn't seem there's anything servicing my need besides Overwatch. The reason I like to point to, is what people remark about damage in sc2 vs bw, If ttk is longer, then there's more micro, so fights become more engaging and fun instead of you just dying to one shot / army being blown up.

Looking at the gameplay video, I think there's already gimmicky abilities, lol.
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
October 21 2019 06:41 GMT
#16
On October 19 2019 03:30 vult wrote:
i dont really understand the hype. obviously the game is still in alpha stage but it looks like CSGO + TF2, with really bland character and art design. Their goal is to make the game be able to run on as many machines as possible, but at the same time it just looks milquetoast.


to be fair it's not even in alpha state yet, the game doesn't even have a name.

That being said, I do see reasons to be hype.
It looks like just the kind of game that I would enjoy playing, being someone who dislikes both CSGO and TF2.
I don't believe you.
WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 09:30:50
October 21 2019 08:24 GMT
#17
On October 21 2019 12:34 lestye wrote:
Is there a reason why you dislike CS style load outs?

Yeah, basically every modern fps has it, it tends to not be very varied as guns either are so balanced that it doesn't practically matter what you pick, or one loadout will be superior and everyone will be running around with it.

Whereas if you do things differently (like classic fps) you can have some guns clearly stronger than others, or have characteristics which are very powerful on a given map.

Long TTK is fine if you can't just regenerate everything by hiding away, or just have someone heal you. It's part of the resource game when you have to scramble towards health pickups (which the enemy would know the positions of) when you're low on health, or decide to stay low health and be less predictable. This makes it actually meaningful to shoot someone without killing them outright because you'll bump them out of position or make them easier to kill.

edit: just watched the video. It looks like it could've been the alpha of paladins/overwatch. not too terribly interesting for me since I've already moved on from this type of fps, oh well
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
October 21 2019 12:23 GMT
#18
i am more interested in other people's interest in these riot games.
people who i deem have good taste and good sensibilities tend to get incredibly excited for these over other titles.
for me, it looks exciting but probably isn't.

good decision, but riot is sitting on their laurels a bit.
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loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
October 22 2019 23:32 GMT
#19
Hate on Riot all you want, but I'm interested in a new FPS. Overwatch relies way too much on team play to be any fun casually.
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-02 12:47:19
March 02 2020 12:32 GMT
#20
Project A has an official title and website.

https://playvalorant.com

Gameplay preview of a round:


20 minute video with commentary on abilities:


If it wasn't obvious to you before, at its core, it's a tactical shooter akin to CS:GO. There's a bomb defusal mode. Characters have abilities where some replace the standard consumables (flashbangs, smoke, molotovs, etc.), others resemble more Rainbow Six Siege gadgets and there are some that seem similar to Overwatch skills.

Full list of Characters and Abilities: https://www.polygon.com/2020/3/2/21156239/valorant-characters-and-abilities-agents-riot-shooter

There's mention of a closed beta, and their twitter mentions Summer 2020.
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