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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51480 Posts
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Noobville17921 Posts
On December 10 2019 06:35 Pandemona wrote: To be fair win trading is for what in classic? There is nothing but an end game honor reward title of Grand Marshal isn't it? Outside of that you are just grinding for pointless stats? No rank 1 titles etc? It is funny i agree though, those who wanted this game the most Asmongold and Soda from what i can tell (streamer wise) they are the ones just doing shit on it, farming camps and basically just getting viewers to fund their activity, they haven't earnt hardly anything in the game properly, they have just had their viewers fund them lol which isn't what the game was really about. I am at this point just hoping for TBC addon announced at Blizzcon 2020 to get me interested again but i doubt will be many people left at this rate xD Asmongold never earns anything legit thats why his chat laughs everytime the game says you earned something Im still honestly surprised people care this much about classic to keep playing it at this point | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 10 2019 08:59 Duka08 wrote: Yeah PvP gear is pretty awesome all the way up through max rank. Idk how much "win trading" matters for ranking up right now but once you get to rank ~12 and 13, being very close to #1 multiple weeks in a row is the only way to hit R14, which is an incredibly difficult feat to earn honestly without playing around the clock. My first and only experience with this grind was running a Feral druid that played premades around the clock between 3 people . The guy who owned the account was an older guy we used to play lans with but in addition to the 3 guys playing it on shifts he would fill the gaps with one of those leveling/grinding service's . The character was rank 3 on EU till they ended those leaderboards (I think in the pre bc patch.. cant remember). So even though we had HWL several months before They eded the leaderboads we just kept going because of the leaderboard rank itself. Which in retrospect was kinda silly. But we were kids with alot of free time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and had just discovered cable internet... It was funny because it was just a zerg to rank 14 based on volume. The other top 10 ranks had twice as good KD ratios and half the HK's and deaths. It was literally just quantity over quality because none of the guys (including me) who were playing it, outside the people in the service and the owner of the account himself.. realllyyy new what they were doing playing feral in BG's As Exciting as that was as a teenager, I find it to be quite stupid now. Then again I find most things in classic quite stupid but thats not a popular opinion so Ill go away now. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On December 10 2019 12:18 Rebs wrote: PVP gear was pretty much top tier for raiding aswell. AFAIK they gave all of the new pvp gear but we're still limited to early raids. We'll have Blackwing Lair by the time top ranks are common but still a lot of it will be BIS | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10121 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
There were some bugs like battlemasters not buffing the end bosses leading to people doing 4 minute AV runs that had literally zero honor kills by just running to the enemy boss and killing it. Seems we have some version of AV that's not the earlier vanilla one which is undertuned / weirdly designed and ending really quickly regardless, like 7-8-minute games every game being normal. ![[image loading]](https://i.redd.it/9gb6rlg4dz341.png) https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/e930rl/keep_in_mind_that_people_explicitly_told_blizz/ I have to say though, those who expect R14 are gonna get a kick up the ass soon. Such a small percentage of people can get the ranking points, even if a thousand playes are playing 24/7 on the most efficient farm spot possible like 950 of them will stall at rank 12 and that's after playing every day for months. All they'll accomplish is making world pvp and other battlegrounds irrelvant for ranking beyond the first few ranks. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10683 Posts
Is the Honor-Rank in the Honor Tab your position on the server alltogether or just on your Rank? Because if so it seems pretty doable SO FAR on my server. Not for me but for someone that is willing to grind every evening. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
"Last week - Standing" shows your standing relative to the server. If it says 1000 for example then there are 999 people ahead of you. On a server with 5000 people that got 15+ honor kills, you must be in the top 10 players to get the highest amount of ranking points. If there is a much less active server, a random PVE server for example rather than one of the original PVP megaservers - there will be far fewer people getting standing, fewer getting the top ranks as they're percentile based. It will be a lot easier to get a medium rank on less competitive servers but the very top ranks will still be heavily dependant on the activity of a handful of players on your server which could make it very hard or relatively easy depending on if they get a lot of points or not. If there are only 3 players getting in then for all you know they could take a week off work and play in shifts and you'd never be able to compete, or maybe nobody could bother that week and you'd get top rank without much trouble. -- Just checked it out on EU alliance, there are 500+ AV instances open and the queue is literally instant. Maybe some fun soon (: | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51480 Posts
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Duka08
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Even if they fix/change the version of AV they implemented, I'm not convinced the matches will get much longer. I wouldn't be surprised if the AV meta shift has more to do with the players learning over time that it was the best way, not just the patch changes they made throughout the first few expansions. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10121 Posts
On December 12 2019 01:02 Pandemona wrote: Soda....this guy man, i want classic wow it is best wow....now wants them to CHANGE the game because he isn't happy with it? Jesus lol! The game wasn't like that. What are you talking about? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51480 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
On December 12 2019 07:01 Pandemona wrote: There is nothing wrong with the AV in the game, it is 1.12 AV which is the post nerfed one. There is nothing wrong with the honor it gives or any bugs Blizzard have said all the bugs that have happened so far and that isn't one of them. You mean aside from the battlemaster bug which makes the BG basically unplayable? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10683 Posts
All else, the last few posts are really, everything that is wrong with classic. Fucking streamer talk that doesn't impair anyone with a brain cell that didn't roll on a "streamer server". This was obvious... So.. Have fun, i guess? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
#NOTMYCLASSIC | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51480 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
That happened again all the time and happens in BGs now ? If you get 5 or more AFK reports you are kicked out. Back in the day (i don't think vanilla, but by TBC-wrath or so) if you got a certain amount of reports you would get a debuff for several minutes which would warn you that you would be kicked if you didn't participate in the BG. Being in combat would just remove the debuff so you didn't have to pay attention to it if people were falsely reporting you. Right now you just get removed and premades of people are abusing it to kick 20 people at a time from AV for the tiniest reasons because they can do so without limit and nobody can stop them. A premade can literally kick everybody from the AV that isn't in the premade so that another premade can join their instance, then kick all of the people who are queueing in but not in their friend group. I did many hundreds of AV's in Vanilla-WOTLK and literally never got kicked by that debuff system because i didn't afk it, yet in classic i got kicked from my first AV immediately and got a 15 minute deserter. Wait 15min and try luck again? No, i scanned reddit and tens of thousands of people are complaining of the exact same thing. I'm just gonna wait until they fix their shit. What battlemaster bug? In AV the battlemasters around the final boss are supposed to give enormous buffs to the end boss so that it's not possible to fight and kill him with all of them up, they would just wipe your whole raid. You're supposed to disable those buffs & battlemasters by taking down objectives as you push towards the end, thus making the end boss vulnerable. This is why most of the objectives exist on the map. Those buffs aren't working, end boss has a tiny fraction of the hp and damage that it's supposed to have, easily zergable and there's no need to take any towers. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51480 Posts
If a character goes AFK, he/she will leave the battleground and gain the Deserter debuff. This prevents entry to another battleground for a 15 minute duration. You can report an inactive player by right clicking the player's portrait and selecting "Report AFK". When enough reports are registered, a 60 second debuff will begin to count down. Once the timer is up a new debuff will appear that will prevent the player from gaining any honor or marks while it is on. This debuff can be negated as soon as the player engages in PvP combat. This system is often abused, since a player can have good reasons for not participating in PVP, for example when he is defending. Yes so this is actually a genuine bug as this is patch 1.12 change for AV saying that the afk report should pop the window up as you say, so ill accept there is a bug on that. However on the battlemaster giving damage, i believe that was nerfed in multiple patches; NPC difficulty has been scaled down. All NPCs have had their power reduced by 15-30%. Creatures that remain in Alterac Valley have had their hit points reduced. The buff that is periodically cast by each faction's Captain has been changed to a flat 20% hit point buff. Also they removed NPCs by a large number that were protecting the battlemasters at the end and on the way into the final base. The way AV is played post those changes in Vanilla is how it is played on live now. You run north, take a graveyard and the outpost in the base, kill end boss with 2 battlemasters up or more. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Other than that i can't comment much on the balance, i never played AV that way. Maybe it was the best strat for a part of vanilla but not most of vanilla or TBC+. If so i don't have any interest in playing it cause that's dumb and it was reverted for being dumb after some months. | ||
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