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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 02:46:47
November 26 2019 02:45 GMT
#601
New GM policy change for Classic: https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/e1ko6a/beware_trading_scam/

If you trade somebody materials to craft an item and they block you and walk away, GM's won't give the items back any more.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 26 2019 18:12 GMT
#602
Hahahaha, pathetic. I'm like 100% sure that's only because they are flooded with tickets like this because of the current social 'meta' and cant keep up, since GM's are shared between retail and classic. What a piece of shit company.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 01:18:16
November 27 2019 01:15 GMT
#603
Ya it was never that way before and i've personally had several trades and loot assigns reversed in vanilla-WOD when there was a clearly stated agreement in game chat which the other player/s violated. Thousands of anecdotes of it.

WoW was never a completely-at-your-own-risk game like EVE Online. Obviously not perfect to blindly trust people (i'd do collateral anyway) but they have always covered your ass in the past for circumstances like trading materials so that somebody else can enchant/craft a profession BoE for you or joining groups where loot rules were violated.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
November 27 2019 02:02 GMT
#604
Makes sense if it's suddenly happening a lot more frequently and they can't handle the influx of requests. Super fucking shitty though.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21683 Posts
November 27 2019 10:41 GMT
#605
Not having to spend GM time on handling loot disputes is a big reason behind moving to Personal Loot so it makes a lot of sense that they now have trouble handling the influx.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
November 28 2019 02:13 GMT
#606
It's only missing the ability to trade for a craft at the same time as the missing required materials in a trade window eh : P
Jodonone
Profile Joined November 2019
1 Post
November 28 2019 06:51 GMT
#607
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-02 11:43:09
December 02 2019 11:39 GMT
#608
There was a blue post on the issue with honor kills not counting for 5 out of 24 hours each day. It was a timing problem, should be fixed now. The HK stats page should be fixed soon.

The kill data wasn't lost, it just wasn't counted for ranking. This week's kills will supposedly be fine and count properly by the next ranking cycle.



Honor kills made within that wrong 21% of the day did not count at all for each previous week of ranking and they're not going to / can't fix that part, those people are just out of luck to get screwed by a bug - they ended up lower rank than they should be, while other people ended up higher than they deserved.

Ranking points build upon previous weeks with decay so 3 months after the fix this won't matter any more but some highly affected players will be stuck behind the curve for quite a lot of weeks.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
December 02 2019 17:03 GMT
#609
On November 27 2019 19:41 Gorsameth wrote:
Not having to spend GM time on handling loot disputes is a big reason behind moving to Personal Loot so it makes a lot of sense that they now have trouble handling the influx.


This cost me onyxias backpack
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 03 2019 14:27 GMT
#610
Copy pasted this, found it amusing:
...if you are one of those people 'pvping' inside of Everlook, Gadgetzan or Marshall's Refuge (the Ungoro hub).
There is the quest called Are we there, Yeti? ingame, which asks you to use Umi's Mechanical Yeti on certain NPCs within these location. This item has a few interesting properties:
it spawns a level 1 yeti that will run through the town following either Legacki, Sprinkle or Quixxil (depending on which of the three locations you are)
you have 10 charges of this item, and once they're gone you can just abandon and retake the quest as often as you want
this level 1 yeti is HOSTILE towards the opposite faction (aka red), and can be targeted as well as attacked by players of the opposite faction
this yeti counts as a CIVILIAN
Yes, you've read this right. Free, unlimited summonable dishonorable kills for the opposite faction ganking within cities if they are dumb enough to use aoe skills (or are bad at tab targeting).
I'm playing a paladin on a horde dominated server, and been using this since the start of phase 2. By now, I've probably hit about 250 hordes with dishonorable kills using this mechanic and the amount of insults, harassments and death threats I received from hordes via the servers' discord is astonishing. This weekend I've hit a raid group of hordes ganking inside everlook with 5 DKs in a row, and seen some really crazy rage from them on discord. Some of them got so pissed off that they've quit the game from what their guild mates have told me.
With the world pvp phase ending in a week, I think its time this method becomes publically known so everyone can enjoy it while it lasts. Enjoy the upcoming shitshow (or the safety of the towns), reddit.
[Are we there, Yeti?]
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
December 03 2019 14:49 GMT
#611
How much does a DHK impact your honor score? I thought it is worth the same as just a few HKs. Also I always thought killing grey players should count as a DHK.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
December 03 2019 14:50 GMT
#612
Damn, turned that quest in just a bit ago
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
December 04 2019 10:15 GMT
#613
DHKs reduce your actual rank points, not your honor, so it is pretty impactful.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-04 16:28:23
December 04 2019 16:08 GMT
#614
How much does a DHK impact your honor score? I thought it is worth the same as just a few HKs.


DHKs reduce your actual rank points, not your honor, so it is pretty impactful.


DHK always hurts. At top level, a number of DHKs can make it literally impossible to rank even with 24/7 play. At lower levels it can require hours more play to make up for AFAIK.

It hurts you more the harder the pvp competition is on your server as more competitive servers require more HK's / honor to be in the same percentile of players to get a certain amount of ranked points but DHK always takes away a set amount of points.

Since ranking points are cumulative with decay, a dishonorable killing spree won't just screw up your week but your ranking potential a month or two down the line.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
December 04 2019 21:55 GMT
#615
Ok kinda weird. I don't play for honor ranks anymore personally, just recording kills/deaths and getting gear from BoE / buys / outdoors solo stuff. Usually get some kills of rank 10+ guys at times like this lul
For me the honor system isn't satisfying for a bunch of reasons, it's nice that there is a system but you'd have to do BGs and the gear rewards are limited in choice higher ranks too much grinding deaths don't really count etc. Also it's a serious deterrent from playing alt chars at the same time as your main if you want to pursue that rank grind race. So now I'd much rather play those alts and not worry about ranking up that much. Done rank 6 (knight) 100% wpvp before, always having fun with the outdoors pvp though, as i said before until nax comes to the game then i usually quit.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 09 2019 20:34 GMT
#616
Ive quit for more than a month now but its interesting to see how everything is starting to burn and crash. Pvp realms are a mess, between some realms being so entirely onesided that og / if get permanently camped by the opposing factions, resulting in even more people leaving and constant whinethreads on the forum and reddit from the camping side, complaining that blizzard is allowing the camped faction players to _ESCAPE_(sic) the realm - https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/e88yuo/flamelash_a_tale_of_two_braincells/ - , and also a lot of win trading, even by big name streamers, going on that is just starting to get called out. BGs open tomorrow but i dont think anything will change significantly anymore, This game is just a trainwreck. It's funny how the streamers who shilled and were the most excited for classic are actively ruining it. Here's a vod of sodapoppins and asmongolds guilds actively colluding and wintrading, as well as a bigtime retail player Lepan doing the same WHILE streaming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/e7wr3n/asmongolds_guild_and_retail_wow_players_caught/
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 09 2019 21:35 GMT
#617
To be fair win trading is for what in classic? There is nothing but an end game honor reward title of Grand Marshal isn't it? Outside of that you are just grinding for pointless stats? No rank 1 titles etc?

It is funny i agree though, those who wanted this game the most Asmongold and Soda from what i can tell (streamer wise) they are the ones just doing shit on it, farming camps and basically just getting viewers to fund their activity, they haven't earnt hardly anything in the game properly, they have just had their viewers fund them lol which isn't what the game was really about.

I am at this point just hoping for TBC addon announced at Blizzcon 2020 to get me interested again but i doubt will be many people left at this rate xD
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Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 23:13:10
December 09 2019 23:12 GMT
#618
On December 10 2019 06:35 Pandemona wrote:
To be fair win trading is for what in classic? There is nothing but an end game honor reward title of Grand Marshal isn't it? Outside of that you are just grinding for pointless stats? No rank 1 titles etc?

It is funny i agree though, those who wanted this game the most Asmongold and Soda from what i can tell (streamer wise) they are the ones just doing shit on it, farming camps and basically just getting viewers to fund their activity, they haven't earnt hardly anything in the game properly, they have just had their viewers fund them lol which isn't what the game was really about.

I am at this point just hoping for TBC addon announced at Blizzcon 2020 to get me interested again but i doubt will be many people left at this rate xD


You get naxx level weapons at rank 14.

Also, TBC would be awesome. It was imo the best iteration of wow.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-10 00:04:16
December 09 2019 23:59 GMT
#619
Yeah PvP gear is pretty awesome all the way up through max rank. Idk how much "win trading" matters for ranking up right now but once you get to rank ~12 and 13, being very close to #1 multiple weeks in a row is the only way to hit R14, which is an incredibly difficult feat to earn honestly without playing around the clock.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 10 2019 03:18 GMT
#620
On December 10 2019 06:35 Pandemona wrote:
To be fair win trading is for what in classic? There is nothing but an end game honor reward title of Grand Marshal isn't it? Outside of that you are just grinding for pointless stats? No rank 1 titles etc?

It is funny i agree though, those who wanted this game the most Asmongold and Soda from what i can tell (streamer wise) they are the ones just doing shit on it, farming camps and basically just getting viewers to fund their activity, they haven't earnt hardly anything in the game properly, they have just had their viewers fund them lol which isn't what the game was really about.

I am at this point just hoping for TBC addon announced at Blizzcon 2020 to get me interested again but i doubt will be many people left at this rate xD


PVP gear was pretty much top tier for raiding aswell.
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