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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 06:58:42
September 19 2019 06:57 GMT
#461
The real vanilla experience is having thottbot in ur background and having to alt tab because no one used dual monitors then. Bet none of u fuckers are doing it the authentic way and prolly have some camgirl or twitch stream in ur other monitor.

Back in my days I pulled out a newspaper cause having a cellphone then was rare, too. Bet a lot of u fuckers touch ur phone half as much of the time while ur playing WoW, huh.

Just an anecdotal, satirical rant *smiley face


I’m level 31 in STV and love the shit out of that zone. Though I see I’m soon to be in desolace and remember that being a horrible zone to grind out in vanilla.
Skol
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
September 19 2019 13:32 GMT
#462
State of this game is absolutely hilarious. People were laughing at how pservers weren't blizzlike or 10k ppl were unauthentic etc while classic is least blizzlike shit I've played so far and has most game breaking bugs I've heard of plus it's moneyrun operation so there's little chance to see fixes to certain bugs that don't affect majority of people.
as useful as teasalt
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 19 2019 13:56 GMT
#463
On September 18 2019 04:29 Cyro wrote:
There's a major bug right now which mostly applies for lvl 60's. The 32-buff cap is wrongly implemented as a 32 aura cap, highly problematic because lots of stats on gear like +hit, +crit and many talents wrongly count as auras inside of that cap.

All of those bonuses fill most of the cap without you doing anything.

Adding more by equipping certain pieces of gear / enchanting / getting a buff like arcane intellect is literally making gear with those stats stop working (and thus people with hit cap are missing bosses etcetc) because people reach more than those 32 auras and the "gear auras" no longer fit within the cap, so the stats no longer apply to you.

edit: Fixed soon, and actually more complicated than that: https://classic.wowhead.com/news=295171/wow-classic-hotfix-for-buffs-falling-off-before-cap-and-aura-problems


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I've taken quite well to playing hunter&mage but not warrior so far, don't know why it's going so badly. I've been duo playing with a priest but my threat output w/ 1h+shield is atrocious (can hold 1 target with equal level dps) and overall damage output is not good.

Big problems even with healer aggro - if i focus on one mob to stack a few sunders etc, any additional mobs in combat will go wreck the healer. If i split threat to hold anything, even my heal can pull any of them off of me by wanding one. I'm rage starved to begin with, so any aggro loss is followed by severe rage starvation and i can never really get the mobs back (taunt pulls it for a few seconds, it hits me once and then swaps back to whomever is generating threat because i don't have the rage to hit it with anything)

The only real successes i've had is fighting 2 mobs at a time to be able to juggle them and hold both, but they still take a lot longer to die than i think they should to be efficient.

Should i be playing more DPS-y with a 2h weapon right now, both in open world and dungeon tanking? This one is still low at the moment (level 18). I'm sure there's some stuff that can be done to make war+priest wreck faces that i'm not doing right now!



Be mindful that you probably have a complete garbage weapon compared to what a priest can do at super low levels. When leveling a priest I can do significantly more damage than a tank just by swp + wanding (with wand spec talent). Priests don't need to cast anything else.

As a warrior once you get your first good blue weapon, you really feel your power go up. Basically just look for the best 1h or 2h you can get damage wise, and ignore whatever is on the actual weapon for stats. This is a reason a lot of staves are really good for warriors early game, they have huge damage ranges compared to other 2h and they can over double your damage output if you get one (BFD staff off 2nd to lass boss has 12 int/11 spi but massive damage range, and is one of warriors best weapons until WW axe for 2h).
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 19:32:12
September 19 2019 18:49 GMT
#464
Thanks

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The real vanilla experience is having thottbot in ur background and having to alt tab


They actually removed fullscreen mode from the client, so no alt tab delay but we have a permanent 1-screen-refresh of additional input lag.

On the subject of performance i did get in a 40 man raid a while back to see numbers, i do have a bunch of addons on (not as much as BFA, but then again not nearly as much needed) and i was hanging below my 232fps lock for the first time.

In combat it was hanging around 180fps in 40-man which is still double the FPS of BFA in a 20 man.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 19 2019 21:04 GMT
#465
My group more of less fell apart. Our priest is on holidays for 2 weeks, managed to get to 48ish, the mage quit at 52 because he got sick of having to drink after every mob group and the warrior tank was only tagging along and doesnt really have motivation to play a lot anyway, i didnt want to wait any longer and started to solo quest, so now im 60 and hes 53.
I dont think i have motivation to grind dungeons with randoms either, so dont know what to do now. Unfortunately theres no other game im interested in currently either =(
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 19 2019 21:11 GMT
#466
Call of Duty, FIFA and Borderlands is out now and the next few weeks if they appeal to you xD

But yeah i am similar to the warrior guy, i play tank and i just can't quest with friends because its not fun when you have to loot 10 items each in like a <40% drop rate and its 1 drop per loot so you gotta kill like 80 mobs to both complete said quest. Leveling through dungeons was fine but after the second run i usually started to switch off a bit. Oh well, still will play it randomly, maybe when i get some time off from work it will appeal to me.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 19 2019 21:59 GMT
#467
The amount of people (including me) that dipped Classic for Borderlands the day it came out was quite amusing to me. I havent touched my lvl 30 since last week now that i think about it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 22:23:15
September 19 2019 22:22 GMT
#468
BL3 is a technical disaster so i'm not touching it. Maybe in a year when they make a more 1.0-worthy version and dump the exclusivity.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feign-death-trap-bug/278131/382
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 19 2019 23:32 GMT
#469
I dont know, ive started to let go of rightlick before i FD and pull the pet towards me and most of the time it works out, though it definitely takes too long to drop combat even then. But what really annoys me is when FD just does nothing. It doesnt say it got resisted but i dont drop dead either. It just doesnt do anything and your char just continues standing there and looking at the mob.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 00:54:18
September 20 2019 00:54 GMT
#470
On September 20 2019 07:22 Cyro wrote:
BL3 is a technical disaster so i'm not touching it. Maybe in a year when they make a more 1.0-worthy version and dump the exclusivity.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feign-death-trap-bug/278131/382


So was/is classic. The point is what people enjoy more than anything with these things is novelty.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 04:20:21
September 20 2019 02:34 GMT
#471
On September 20 2019 09:54 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2019 07:22 Cyro wrote:
BL3 is a technical disaster so i'm not touching it. Maybe in a year when they make a more 1.0-worthy version and dump the exclusivity.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feign-death-trap-bug/278131/382


So was/is classic. The point is what people enjoy more than anything with these things is novelty.


Am talking about things like denuvo - they're just taking so much away from the game for benefits which only apply to the publisher, not the consumer or developers.

And yeah, playing the same game for 5000 hours without a break is a lot harder than playing it for 3000 hours now and 2000 hours later.

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Warrior tips went great! I bought a lvl 15 blue 2h right away then got a cruel barb for sword+shield. Rank 2 thunder clap at 18 and then cleave at 20 + 5/5 on the stancedance talent and everything is starting to come together.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
September 21 2019 00:06 GMT
#472
On September 19 2019 15:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
The real vanilla experience is having thottbot in ur background and having to alt tab because no one used dual monitors then. Bet none of u fuckers are doing it the authentic way and prolly have some camgirl or twitch stream in ur other monitor.

Back in my days I pulled out a newspaper cause having a cellphone then was rare, too. Bet a lot of u fuckers touch ur phone half as much of the time while ur playing WoW, huh.

Just an anecdotal, satirical rant *smiley face


I’m level 31 in STV and love the shit out of that zone. Though I see I’m soon to be in desolace and remember that being a horrible zone to grind out in vanilla.


For true authentic experience play on a CRT monitor capped at 15 fps and scrap your gig internet for 56k.
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 02:51:26
September 21 2019 02:46 GMT
#473
On September 21 2019 09:06 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2019 15:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
The real vanilla experience is having thottbot in ur background and having to alt tab because no one used dual monitors then. Bet none of u fuckers are doing it the authentic way and prolly have some camgirl or twitch stream in ur other monitor.

Back in my days I pulled out a newspaper cause having a cellphone then was rare, too. Bet a lot of u fuckers touch ur phone half as much of the time while ur playing WoW, huh.

Just an anecdotal, satirical rant *smiley face


I’m level 31 in STV and love the shit out of that zone. Though I see I’m soon to be in desolace and remember that being a horrible zone to grind out in vanilla.


For true authentic experience play on a CRT monitor capped at 15 fps and scrap your gig internet for 56k.

I bet you didn't even move back in with your parents and started going back to high school

Also wrt BL3 I had a similar experience in that after the 4th Slay the Spire character hit beta, I lost all interest in Classic and haven't logged in since. The game got a ton of players thanks to the hype train (especially streamers) and it's starting to see the drop off that everyone but the diehard classic fanboys predicted.
rip
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-22 18:26:20
September 21 2019 06:34 GMT
#474
and it's starting to see the drop off that everyone but the diehard classic fanboys predicted.


I don't agree with that. People are not playing 16hrs a day every day any more and some of them stopped logging in but there wasn't a cliff's edge or anything yet - it's actually far exceeded my expectations.

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5pm, 4 weeks after launch.. the realm that my friends refused to play on because it was "going to be dead".

Edit: 3 hours later (8pm eu central) we literally have a queue on the login server before being able to select a realm.

Based on the amount of realms and populations etc i'd say we're still looking at concurrent player counts peaking into the 7 figures and that classic still has more concurrents than BFA.

Very few people expect it to stay that way in the long term (years) but clearly it can do it for 1 month and probably a good bit longer.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 12:56:53
September 21 2019 12:55 GMT
#475
xD my CRT monitor can do 85Hz, and I have another one that does 100Hz^^ also there was ADSL since quite some years when wow came out. but you probably know that

Desolace: there is usually good pvp action around kodo cemetry
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-22 13:27:19
September 22 2019 03:51 GMT
#476
I got to WPL back in the day before i realized that crippling render distance would make the game super hecking smooth (~50fps, up from 15)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
September 24 2019 07:33 GMT
#477
I'm a bit surprised that the consensus is fairly negative here, I'm absolutely loving this game . I'm a bit too hooked on it currently though, it's a bit unhealthy...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 24 2019 07:37 GMT
#478
Asmongold announced on his stream last night that he is hosting another dueling tournament (on his realm, alliance Ferlina or something idk) with a prize pool of $40,000 at the moment and should climb more. He announced it to 100,000 viewers while he was crafting server first legendary. He then mentioned a molten core race tournament as well which will have prize money too.

Quite strange how a dueling tournament and molten core race is getting investors to stump up money xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-24 10:13:30
September 24 2019 07:56 GMT
#479
Shit ton of money involved in streaming. Despite appearances (especially because of them, he doesn't seem to spend a lot of money) Asmon is hella rich. He's publically earning something like $100k/month right now but hard to verify exact numbers without him giving them.

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On September 24 2019 16:33 TheDougler wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that the consensus is fairly negative here, I'm absolutely loving this game . I'm a bit too hooked on it currently though, it's a bit unhealthy...


A couple of posters either way is anecdotes, not consensus!

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https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/d80iqi/reported_someone_in_gadgetzan_for_using_the_arena/?sort=top

Highly disturbing how often this exact thing happens now.

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Good talk from papa Jeff!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
September 26 2019 08:37 GMT
#480


This is pretty great lol! Some EVE vibes
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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