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NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
December 22 2017 08:49 GMT
#2821
On December 22 2017 10:59 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2017 02:59 RuiBarbO wrote:
On December 21 2017 18:35 Varanice wrote:
I managed to save up about 60 orbs for the release. I pulled 3x 5* Chroms (2 seasonal, 1 regular chrom :p) on the same summoning session



That is disgusting. I had 100 orbs saved and pulled one 5* Chrom on my last session.

I got Christmas Chrom off my free pull and nope'd out of the banner after. My precious orbs will be saved for something else. (Probably will waste them trying to pull for a Hector/B.Ike and not getting green orbs again.)


I thought i was lucky getting all 4 christmas characters in 200 orbs, getting one the free is amazing.
Some times you just gotta wish...
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 22 2017 13:03 GMT
#2822
I pulled Tharja in the free pull, and decided to not test my luck pulling more lol.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
December 22 2017 20:35 GMT
#2823
I went ahead and used 11 orbs on the legendary weapons banner before getting a 5* Minerva, which completes my flier team. So that was nice. Kinda feel like I missed the strongest xmas knight in Tharja though... it's easy to lose units to that stupid close counter nightmare bikini in arena.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-28 01:01:55
December 28 2017 01:01 GMT
#2824
new mage unit could be nutty depending on stat spread, we'll see in a few hours. i was planning on working on starting my super merged mage unit, but im gonna hold off until i can figure out how she fits into the meta.
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
December 28 2017 04:07 GMT
#2825
Horse mages, because another ranged cavalry unit to have better colour coverage to go with Lyn and Reinhardt is totally healthy for arena right. B-slot skill also looks bonkers.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
December 28 2017 08:12 GMT
#2826
her stat distribution is ass actually, she's going to be decent just because shes a horse mage with unique skills though.

and holy shit the new years units are insane. Azura and Camilla are nutty af. Takumi is the best dagger user hands down, but, its still a dagger user. Corrin got pretty shafted and didnt get anything neat
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
December 28 2017 08:45 GMT
#2827
She's a faster Cecilia. If nothing else, Horse cancer just got a huge upgrade just off that since she can bladetome better. But yeah, I'm surprised her stats are so....bad overall actually. 25 base res for a unit that comes stock with Glacies and Res ploy, really?

New year's units are datamined info! (Don't think anyone cares though.) Azura doesn't have boosted stats but first flier dancer is going to be nuts with Guidance or Flier Formation shenanigans depending on whether she's in a flier or mixed team.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 08:34:33
January 03 2018 08:14 GMT
#2828
got into a discussion with a friend over the highest damage possible in a single combat. the only restrictions were that you couldn't account for bonus stats from things like TT bonus, everything else was fair game. This was the best we were able to come up with:

810 damage = + Show Spoiler +
+10 Effie with +ATK IV, Summoner/Ally Support Rank S and low hp for procs
Weapon: Ridersbane+(ATK Forged)
Ult: Astra
A: Brazen ATK/SPD 3
B: Wrath 3
S: Attack 3
Effie has a base of 77 attack after skills/equipment.
Effie receives +32 attack from allies (Harsh Commanded'd Seal Atk 3, Geirskogul x3, 3x C passive Spur Atk 3, 1x seal Spur Atk 3)
Effie has enough speed to double, and this adds up to a total of 109 attack going into combat.

Fighting against a level 1 Eliwood with Ruby Sword+ and 0 def after debuffs.

first attack with Astra/Wrath buff: floor of (109*(1.5)*(1.4)*(2.5)) + 10 = 582
2nd attack: floor of (109*(1.5)*(1.4)) = 228

582 + 228
total damage: 810

Unless I missed something, using this method the only thing I suspect that could increase this is:
- A lance unit with more than 40 base ATK is released.
- Drive Atk Seal is released.
- New mechanics

Edit: Lowered from 852 to 810 because I realized that Wrath damage is added after multipliers.

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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
January 03 2018 08:20 GMT
#2829
That's pretty insane lol.

A few times I have seen over 100 with ayra while leveling her up before I got regal astra, but 800 would be a new level of hilarity.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 08:30:00
January 03 2018 08:29 GMT
#2830
On January 03 2018 17:20 Alventenie wrote:
That's pretty insane lol.

A few times I have seen over 100 with ayra while leveling her up before I got regal astra, but 800 would be a new level of hilarity.

I was really hoping to find a way to crack 1k, but I don't think it's possible right now. We started out around 500~ and pretty quickly shot up to mid 700 solutions, it was a struggle to squeeze out those last few points.
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 08:50:55
January 03 2018 08:49 GMT
#2831
There is this from the FEH subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/75dqf5/the_shuckle_debate_highest_possible_damage_in_feh/

You're also missing out on 1 damage by using Brazen Atk/Spd 3 instead of Death Blow 3 but I'm not sure if that affects your doubling potential since they're not calculating to double but only the single most powerful hit. Outdamages your first hit by about 5 damage.

Edit: WHOOPS sorry, they're using TT bonus but a non-forged Ridersbane so the bonuses actually evened out. Didn't notice this.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 08:53:21
January 03 2018 08:52 GMT
#2832
On January 03 2018 17:49 ykl wrote:
There is this from the FEH subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/75dqf5/the_shuckle_debate_highest_possible_damage_in_feh/

You're also missing out on 1 damage by using Brazen Atk/Spd 3 instead of Death Blow 3 but I'm not sure if that affects your doubling potential since they're not calculating to double but only the single most powerful hit. Outdamages your first hit by about 5 damage.

Edit: WHOOPS sorry, they're using TT bonus but a non-forged Ridersbane so the bonuses actually evened out. Didn't notice this.


TT bonus adds +4 atk, forged Ridersbane adds +2 atk, Brazen actually adds +1 atk vs db3. so TT on older patch only has +1 atk actually.

also, just for fun. With a TT bonus of +4 atk, the value increases from 810 to 840
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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
January 03 2018 08:58 GMT
#2833
On January 03 2018 17:52 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2018 17:49 ykl wrote:
There is this from the FEH subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/75dqf5/the_shuckle_debate_highest_possible_damage_in_feh/

You're also missing out on 1 damage by using Brazen Atk/Spd 3 instead of Death Blow 3 but I'm not sure if that affects your doubling potential since they're not calculating to double but only the single most powerful hit. Outdamages your first hit by about 5 damage.

Edit: WHOOPS sorry, they're using TT bonus but a non-forged Ridersbane so the bonuses actually evened out. Didn't notice this.


TT bonus adds +4 atk, forged Ridersbane adds +2 atk, Brazen actually adds +1 atk vs db3. so TT on older patch only has +1 atk actually.

also, just for fun. With a TT bonus of +4 atk, the value increases from 810 to 840

Oh wait yeah, I failed on the weapon forging bonus too. T_T
Also, I thought Brazan was +5/+5, didn't even realise it was +7/+7.


Actually, since you're going for doubling and you're already lowering HP to activate Brazen, why not just go full troll with brave lance quadding with the brash assault seal? The 3 additional hits should even out the loss in damage on your astra hit, right?
There is no need to be mad.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
January 03 2018 20:30 GMT
#2834
On January 03 2018 17:58 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2018 17:52 Varanice wrote:
On January 03 2018 17:49 ykl wrote:
There is this from the FEH subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/75dqf5/the_shuckle_debate_highest_possible_damage_in_feh/

You're also missing out on 1 damage by using Brazen Atk/Spd 3 instead of Death Blow 3 but I'm not sure if that affects your doubling potential since they're not calculating to double but only the single most powerful hit. Outdamages your first hit by about 5 damage.

Edit: WHOOPS sorry, they're using TT bonus but a non-forged Ridersbane so the bonuses actually evened out. Didn't notice this.


TT bonus adds +4 atk, forged Ridersbane adds +2 atk, Brazen actually adds +1 atk vs db3. so TT on older patch only has +1 atk actually.

also, just for fun. With a TT bonus of +4 atk, the value increases from 810 to 840

Oh wait yeah, I failed on the weapon forging bonus too. T_T
Also, I thought Brazan was +5/+5, didn't even realise it was +7/+7.


Actually, since you're going for doubling and you're already lowering HP to activate Brazen, why not just go full troll with brave lance quadding with the brash assault seal? The 3 additional hits should even out the loss in damage on your astra hit, right?


Since you're hitting a lvl 1 Eliwood, does Effie even need the speed boost to double him? Or couldn't you put all your effort into buffing ATK?
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
January 04 2018 01:57 GMT
#2835
On January 04 2018 05:30 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2018 17:58 ykl wrote:
On January 03 2018 17:52 Varanice wrote:
On January 03 2018 17:49 ykl wrote:
There is this from the FEH subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/75dqf5/the_shuckle_debate_highest_possible_damage_in_feh/

You're also missing out on 1 damage by using Brazen Atk/Spd 3 instead of Death Blow 3 but I'm not sure if that affects your doubling potential since they're not calculating to double but only the single most powerful hit. Outdamages your first hit by about 5 damage.

Edit: WHOOPS sorry, they're using TT bonus but a non-forged Ridersbane so the bonuses actually evened out. Didn't notice this.


TT bonus adds +4 atk, forged Ridersbane adds +2 atk, Brazen actually adds +1 atk vs db3. so TT on older patch only has +1 atk actually.

also, just for fun. With a TT bonus of +4 atk, the value increases from 810 to 840

Oh wait yeah, I failed on the weapon forging bonus too. T_T
Also, I thought Brazan was +5/+5, didn't even realise it was +7/+7.


Actually, since you're going for doubling and you're already lowering HP to activate Brazen, why not just go full troll with brave lance quadding with the brash assault seal? The 3 additional hits should even out the loss in damage on your astra hit, right?


Since you're hitting a lvl 1 Eliwood, does Effie even need the speed boost to double him? Or couldn't you put all your effort into buffing ATK?

Probably more to the "reaching 1k damage in one round" part since he already calculates the follow up attack to try and get there. The first reaches about 580, which very comfortably kills Eliwood.
There is no need to be mad.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-04 04:52:39
January 04 2018 04:52 GMT
#2836
finally closing in on 200k feathers to construct a +10 unit. no where near close to the 11 copies required for any unit other than Nino right now (I have 8 right now) and i'm pulling green trying to get an Azura right now too so I might get some more.

Debating if I want to do a standard bladetome build, a spicy Gronnowl build, or SI both and just use one occasionally with subpar IVs. Hmm.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
January 04 2018 23:13 GMT
#2837
On January 04 2018 13:52 Varanice wrote:
finally closing in on 200k feathers to construct a +10 unit. no where near close to the 11 copies required for any unit other than Nino right now (I have 8 right now) and i'm pulling green trying to get an Azura right now too so I might get some more.

Debating if I want to do a standard bladetome build, a spicy Gronnowl build, or SI both and just use one occasionally with subpar IVs. Hmm.


Is there any advantage to owl over blade?
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-05 21:58:22
January 05 2018 06:24 GMT
#2838
On January 05 2018 08:13 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2018 13:52 Varanice wrote:
finally closing in on 200k feathers to construct a +10 unit. no where near close to the 11 copies required for any unit other than Nino right now (I have 8 right now) and i'm pulling green trying to get an Azura right now too so I might get some more.

Debating if I want to do a standard bladetome build, a spicy Gronnowl build, or SI both and just use one occasionally with subpar IVs. Hmm.


Is there any advantage to owl over blade?

unaffected by panic ploy if you build around it properly.
generally a lot beefier, and can take a hit if not multiple, and you still pretty much nuke everything.
it requires a decent bit more building around and specific positioning than just slapping some C skills on your other units though.

edit: I ended up building a +7 nino for the time being. did part of an arena run this week with a completely new team and boy it is fun. Current team is Olivia, Nino, Alfonse, and Nowi.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
January 10 2018 16:31 GMT
#2839
So I pulled flying Azura, and man, she is kinda crap. Stat-wise she's a strictly worse version of Catria, and getting her to 40+x is nigh impossible since she's a seasonal hero (which also means she's probably not going on any arena teams if I want to get over 4.9k). Earth song or whatever is not a particularly exciting B skill, either, and I'm all out of Cains to feed for Wings of Mercy.

Oh well, I'll wait for the next banner... whatever it is.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 04:11:22
January 11 2018 03:43 GMT
#2840
On January 11 2018 01:31 RuiBarbO wrote:
So I pulled flying Azura, and man, she is kinda crap. Stat-wise she's a strictly worse version of Catria, and getting her to 40+x is nigh impossible since she's a seasonal hero (which also means she's probably not going on any arena teams if I want to get over 4.9k). Earth song or whatever is not a particularly exciting B skill, either, and I'm all out of Cains to feed for Wings of Mercy.

Oh well, I'll wait for the next banner... whatever it is.

At least you got her. I got pity broken by a Ryoma after 90 orbs. T_T I hate pulling for green focus units.

EDIT: And oh yeah, next banner is Radiant Dawn, Michaiah, Sothe and Zelgius (who is basically Black Knight but better. Why does he have BK's unique weapon and special btw? I don't play mainline games.)
There is no need to be mad.
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