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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 18 2015 17:40 GMT
#41
On August 18 2015 19:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
I play whatever Artyk invites me to.


You make me feel so special :D
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 18:11:50
August 18 2015 18:11 GMT
#42
Obviously when it's not community night we have more players in 10 minutes than in 2 hours
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 18:11:38
August 18 2015 18:11 GMT
#43
fail double post
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 18 2015 19:51 GMT
#44
OK BOYS, THIS IS YOUR 2ND CHANCE TO REDEEM YOURSELF AND MAKE ME NOT FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT FOR REBOOTING THE EU SERVER

connect teamliquideu.game.nfoservers.com:27015;password tl


I still need to install the pugmod so gimme a bit more time
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
August 18 2015 20:08 GMT
#45
On August 19 2015 04:51 amazingxkcd wrote:
OK BOYS, THIS IS YOUR 2ND CHANCE TO REDEEM YOURSELF AND MAKE ME NOT FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT FOR REBOOTING THE EU SERVER

connect teamliquideu.game.nfoservers.com:27015;password tl


I still need to install the pugmod so gimme a bit more time

Thank you thank you thank you
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Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
August 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#46
Ok, good games tonight
In the end team_Censured 3:0 team_Luolis.... seems like the best EU IGL need to step up his game (or get better at picking people for his team)

Next session is thursday 20.8. 8pm, it would be great if we can get 10 people again. Let's vote on what map we should play next
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#47
You're gonna play during Cologne?
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Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
August 18 2015 23:05 GMT
#48
I guess... It's group stages only anyway and most of the matches for thursday will be already over by the time we start playing.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 18 2015 23:17 GMT
#49
But the better matches will be at the end of the night. They're the winners' matches. D:
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7165 Posts
August 19 2015 10:06 GMT
#50
Yea bois next time comeback is real
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 19 2015 10:52 GMT
#51
My clutches couldn't carry team Luolis far enough.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 12:06:22
August 19 2015 11:59 GMT
#52
The games during the meeting last night were fun. It was great to see everybody so motivated and enthusiastic. As far as productivity I think we have a long way to go, though. The first issue is that we had 10-11 people which just seems to be too much to really talk strats, too many differing opinions, not enough time for everybody to speak, no clear in-game leaders etc.

So either we do two EU teams (A and B, separated by skill I guess) OR we just keep doing this a couple of times more and see who continues to show up and who drops out until we've fanned our numbers down to 5-6. I prefer the second option as this way we know who's really able to put in the time and will continuously show up. At least that's the way I suggest running the EU team, for what it's worth!

As far as organizing practice sessions, I'd suggest a three-part structure. We pick one map per evening, first looking at it on tacnet.io. We discuss this giving everybody a chance to speak and we do it spot by spot for CT sides. No jumping from point to point this way! So when everybody is done talking about A, we go to mid, then to B. Then we can talk T sides and throw out ideas. Next we would jump into the game on our server, try out nades and the strategies we talked about in-game. Finally we'd go on FaceIT or MM and try and play the map to apply the concepts. This way our meetings would be very productive I think! Just my two cents!
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 19 2015 13:37 GMT
#53
On August 19 2015 07:46 Censured wrote:
Ok, good games tonight
In the end team_Censured 3:0 team_Luolis.... seems like the best EU IGL need to step up his game (or get better at picking people for his team)

Next session is thursday 20.8. 8pm, it would be great if we can get 10 people again. Let's vote on what map we should play next


Weren't you with Rogg the 3 times? I'm seeing a pattern here :D

Do i even NEED to say which map we should play next?
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 13:39:11
August 19 2015 13:38 GMT
#54
On August 19 2015 22:37 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:46 Censured wrote:
Ok, good games tonight
In the end team_Censured 3:0 team_Luolis.... seems like the best EU IGL need to step up his game (or get better at picking people for his team)

Next session is thursday 20.8. 8pm, it would be great if we can get 10 people again. Let's vote on what map we should play next


Weren't you with Rogg the 3 times? I'm seeing a pattern here :D

Do i even NEED to say which map we should play next?


edit : apparently one guy voted for nuke, haha, what a noob
edit 2 : i confuse the edit and quote button with the new TL, sorry double post ><
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 19 2015 13:49 GMT
#55
Overpass!

Im not playing if its Nuke fuck that shit

Time to do some penta boosts lmao
WriterXiao8~~
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 13:56:41
August 19 2015 13:56 GMT
#56
I voted Inferno because I think it makes for an interesting T side that we could improve. But if it's Overpass that works for me as well because you can win a LOT on that map since most people just flat out don't know how to play it properly on MM.

Oh and Artyk...

On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
edit : apparently one guy voted for nuke, haha, what a noob
edit 2 : i confuse the edit and quote button with the new TL, sorry double post ><


On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
what a noob


On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
noob


Do I need to say more? :p

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 19 2015 14:17 GMT
#57
I'd love to join in but looks like boom way beyond full?
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 19 2015 14:17 GMT
#58
On August 19 2015 20:59 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
The games during the meeting last night were fun. It was great to see everybody so motivated and enthusiastic. As far as productivity I think we have a long way to go, though. The first issue is that we had 10-11 people which just seems to be too much to really talk strats, too many differing opinions, not enough time for everybody to speak, no clear in-game leaders etc.

So either we do two EU teams (A and B, separated by skill I guess) OR we just keep doing this a couple of times more and see who continues to show up and who drops out until we've fanned our numbers down to 5-6. I prefer the second option as this way we know who's really able to put in the time and will continuously show up. At least that's the way I suggest running the EU team, for what it's worth!

As far as organizing practice sessions, I'd suggest a three-part structure. We pick one map per evening, first looking at it on tacnet.io. We discuss this giving everybody a chance to speak and we do it spot by spot for CT sides. No jumping from point to point this way! So when everybody is done talking about A, we go to mid, then to B. Then we can talk T sides and throw out ideas. Next we would jump into the game on our server, try out nades and the strategies we talked about in-game. Finally we'd go on FaceIT or MM and try and play the map to apply the concepts. This way our meetings would be very productive I think! Just my two cents!



Yeah with 10+ peoples switching over and over it's hard to get used to everybody's playstyle and positions, and i couldnt tell which player was doing what. I mean i'm watching the radar all the time but i was tired and i can't keep up with that + opponents movements + bomb location

I think proper execution of strats is what we REALLY need to work on. Calling a strat and saying what everybody should be doing was clearly not enough yesterday, timing and synchronisation are key. (radar! helps)
And guys when we play default as T please oh please look at your radar! to see if an area isn't covered. This can be solved easily just by everyone calling where they play on default as the game starts. I should have asked everyone but i wasn't focused, though watching the radar! still fixes that problem without any communication.

I know i sound like i whine a lot when things aren't working out but if i lead it would only make things worse. I know you're like "well find a solution to break their defense if you're not happy" but why do that when we lose rounds because of basic stuff like lack of info, bad cover or slow rotation? Fix that first, then we actually have a shot at executing strats, and win rounds.
I do not feel confident in leading a team because of these reasons. If the whole team can be in sync, then i might try. For now i just stick to mid round calls using the few info we can get.

On tacnet we should indeed speak one by one, otherwise it's just a ton of ideas coming from everywhere and we forget half of it when we actually start playing (and it's not because i draw NUKE over and over :D)
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 19 2015 14:20 GMT
#59
On August 19 2015 22:56 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
I voted Inferno because I think it makes for an interesting T side that we could improve. But if it's Overpass that works for me as well because you can win a LOT on that map since most people just flat out don't know how to play it properly on MM.

Oh and Artyk...

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
edit : apparently one guy voted for nuke, haha, what a noob
edit 2 : i confuse the edit and quote button with the new TL, sorry double post ><


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
what a noob


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 22:38 ArtyK wrote:
noob


Do I need to say more? :p



Cheap shot

I'd love to join in but looks like boom way beyond full?


Yeah EU server is pretty popular right now, give it a week :D
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7165 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 14:27:33
August 19 2015 14:21 GMT
#60
On August 19 2015 23:17 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 20:59 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
The games during the meeting last night were fun. It was great to see everybody so motivated and enthusiastic. As far as productivity I think we have a long way to go, though. The first issue is that we had 10-11 people which just seems to be too much to really talk strats, too many differing opinions, not enough time for everybody to speak, no clear in-game leaders etc.

So either we do two EU teams (A and B, separated by skill I guess) OR we just keep doing this a couple of times more and see who continues to show up and who drops out until we've fanned our numbers down to 5-6. I prefer the second option as this way we know who's really able to put in the time and will continuously show up. At least that's the way I suggest running the EU team, for what it's worth!

As far as organizing practice sessions, I'd suggest a three-part structure. We pick one map per evening, first looking at it on tacnet.io. We discuss this giving everybody a chance to speak and we do it spot by spot for CT sides. No jumping from point to point this way! So when everybody is done talking about A, we go to mid, then to B. Then we can talk T sides and throw out ideas. Next we would jump into the game on our server, try out nades and the strategies we talked about in-game. Finally we'd go on FaceIT or MM and try and play the map to apply the concepts. This way our meetings would be very productive I think! Just my two cents!



Yeah with 10+ peoples switching over and over it's hard to get used to everybody's playstyle and positions, and i couldnt tell which player was doing what. I mean i'm watching the radar all the time but i was tired and i can't keep up with that + opponents movements + bomb location

I think proper execution of strats is what we REALLY need to work on. Calling a strat and saying what everybody should be doing was clearly not enough yesterday, timing and synchronisation are key. (radar! helps)
And guys when we play default as T please oh please look at your radar! to see if an area isn't covered. This can be solved easily just by everyone calling where they play on default as the game starts. I should have asked everyone but i wasn't focused, though watching the radar! still fixes that problem without any communication.

I know i sound like i whine a lot when things aren't working out but if i lead it would only make things worse. I know you're like "well find a solution to break their defense if you're not happy" but why do that when we lose rounds because of basic stuff like lack of info, bad cover or slow rotation? Fix that first, then we actually have a shot at executing strats, and win rounds.
I do not feel confident in leading a team because of these reasons. If the whole team can be in sync, then i might try. For now i just stick to mid round calls using the few info we can get.

On tacnet we should indeed speak one by one, otherwise it's just a ton of ideas coming from everywhere and we forget half of it when we actually start playing (and it's not because i draw NUKE over and over :D)

Yea i think we need like a tight 5 man roster instead of the roster changing all the time. If it changes all the time theres no way to actually know and feel the roles and spots of your teammates.

I agree with you on the execution part. Itll get better with just playing a lot imo.-

I also agree on the tacnet thing

Edit: Imo the main point is to get 1-2 5 man rosters that work tightly and will just play together. If the players change constantly its just bad imo
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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