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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
Also, sick call by bethesda, selling pre orders of dlc before even making it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 18 2015 10:50 bo1b wrote: Do you think the erosion of what it means to be a fallout game is similar to the erosion of what it means to be a person from a nation afflicted by rampant globalisation? Can I claim some sort of benefit somewhere for fallout erosion and get into a job easier do you reckon? As someone who didn't get into Fallout 1 and 2 that much, I could get two shits about the erosion of your favorite little game. The only thing you have left is to come into this thread and crap on a game other people enjoy. You're like those sad Dr. Who fans who get all mad because new fans like their cult show that change writing staff and moved on. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Also, the fact that the game explains absolutely nothing to you was a bit frustrating for me at times. I was well into it before I figured out I could hit q to enter VATS in combat, and even longer to figure out the stupid armor system. I guess some of the appeal to games can be just throwing you in and forcing you to figure things out, but in some places it just does more harm than good and is pointless imo. Basically, the game is pretty good but it isn't perfect and there are quite a few problems with it that should've been resolved yet it seems like Bethesda is not working on them at all. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 18 2015 12:04 bo1b wrote: No I'm just getting salty the shitty fanfiction is being sold to the public en masse under the guise of the real thing. So you have informed the thread 50 different ways, over and over. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Discussion of bugs and gameplay issues is still legitimate, but this nostalgia dickwaving contest is going nowhere when everyone already knows where they stand. It was fine when there was nothing better to talk about, but I'd rather not read posters on both sides saying facepalm-y things when they could be talking about other things. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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malcram
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On November 18 2015 14:08 RagequitBM wrote: Yeah I'm actually curious, are power fists affected by the punching perk or the melee weapon perk. Unarmed; it's pretty sick actually. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 18 2015 12:48 RagequitBM wrote: Idk maybe I'm just too young, but I went back to play FO 1 and 2 to get hyped up for fo4, and didn't really like them. They were just way too slow paced. I'd rather just read a novel. I guess I'm just a sub-human for liking FO 4 more than the older ones Fo1 and Fo2 have bad user interface and many strange quirks. And yes, turn based combat is not fun to everyone. When people praise them it is not because of these things, it because of its quest structure and writing. It is a dark world, full of shitty people, the world makes more sense than in Fo3+ and quest are often solvable in multiple ways and there is real choice and consequence. Also if you put your character to 1 Int he gets a whole different set of conversation options which are usually different versions of grunts and some different quests. He cannot finish some other quests. NPCs are simulated to be more like real world people that get offended by what you say and do and you can fail quests because of that. You can play a real bastard character if you want. You can be a slaver, a child killer, a grave robber and so on. You can finish the game without killing anyone, get married, divorced, become a porn star, a best boxer or a martial arts champion. You can manipulate gangs to kill each other and many other cool things. And many, many other RPG options. It was also first game that allowed that kind of gameplay, and it has yet not been surpassed by any other game series. When people get mad at Fo3 and Fo4 it is because they don't JUST want FPS gameplay with some minecraft building, some sims minigames and endless stream of kill/fetch quests where conversation options are yes/no/sarcasm/more info. They want all that good stuff that games 20 years before had, WE expected games to evolve. I don't mind 3d, open world, exploring and all that, I mind that the game was made worse in all the RPG elements that made it the awesome cult game it is still today. All we wanted is that new Fallout games kept the core and then added all the stuf Bethesda added. But Bethesda cut off what made it Fallout and just added superfluous stuff, making this something completely different and subpar. So while Fallout 3+ are now different games basically and cater to different market, I hope this above text explains why are Fo1/2 fans so angry/disappointed. | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On November 18 2015 19:08 Coppermantis wrote: One thing I'm confused about - why are there so many mannequins everywhere? It's like every location has these fake people just standing around. yeah I find that pretty funny lol also the monkeys | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
they scare me | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On November 18 2015 18:37 -Archangel- wrote: Fo1 and Fo2 have bad user interface and many strange quirks. And yes, turn based combat is not fun to everyone. When people praise them it is not because of these things, it because of its quest structure and writing. It is a dark world, full of shitty people, the world makes more sense than in Fo3+ and quest are often solvable in multiple ways and there is real choice and consequence. Also if you put your character to 1 Int he gets a whole different set of conversation options which are usually different versions of grunts and some different quests. He cannot finish some other quests. NPCs are simulated to be more like real world people that get offended by what you say and do and you can fail quests because of that. You can play a real bastard character if you want. You can be a slaver, a child killer, a grave robber and so on. You can finish the game without killing anyone, get married, divorced, become a porn star, a best boxer or a martial arts champion. You can manipulate gangs to kill each other and many other cool things. And many, many other RPG options. It was also first game that allowed that kind of gameplay, and it has yet not been surpassed by any other game series. When people get mad at Fo3 and Fo4 it is because they don't JUST want FPS gameplay with some minecraft building, some sims minigames and endless stream of kill/fetch quests where conversation options are yes/no/sarcasm/more info. They want all that good stuff that games 20 years before had, WE expected games to evolve. I don't mind 3d, open world, exploring and all that, I mind that the game was made worse in all the RPG elements that made it the awesome cult game it is still today. All we wanted is that new Fallout games kept the core and then added all the stuf Bethesda added. But Bethesda cut off what made it Fallout and just added superfluous stuff, making this something completely different and subpar. So while Fallout 3+ are now different games basically and cater to different market, I hope this above text explains why are Fo1/2 fans so angry/disappointed. This is a really good post. I understand a little bit more. I just really dislike the atmosphere, UI, and combat so much that I have trouble playing it for too long. I'll have to give it another try when I have more time after reading your post though. Feels like Fallout is more akin to Planescape: Torment rather than Baldur's Gate which I compared it to at first. I absolutely loved Baldur's Gate, but hated Planescape. Not exactly sure why Edit: Sorry this is the Fallout 4 thread, not isometric rpgs. Got sidetracked... If I'm not planning on using big guns is there any reason to get Gun nut 4? I haven't found any weapons that actually use it.. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/? | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 18 2015 20:34 daemir wrote: Didn't take long for the dialog wheel to be modded. You can get full dialog text instead of yes/no/sarcastic/whatever http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/? That looks good. I am getting that one today  | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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