• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:53
CET 21:53
KST 05:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1816Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Ghostwriting Services for Authors and Businesses The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2070 users

Fallout 4! - Page 60

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 77 Next
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 17 2015 15:49 GMT
#1181
On November 18 2015 00:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 21:18 bertolo wrote:
Haters gonna hate. I think the people that thrash on these games just don't enjoy the general game play and wish it was something else.


Imagine Activision buying Starcraft brand from Blizzard and creating a turn-based, ultra-simplified mobile cash-grabber. It's ultra popular, but it's not anywhere close around what it has been.
So yeah, hate on bitchsoft is justified. Enjoy the game that is actually totally not Fallout and enjoy giving more moneys to beth - that will assure them than no matter how bad/buggy their game is gonna be, it's gonna sell like crazy and have 90+ metacritic score.

Sad.

Your opinion is justified. Whether or not people are super pumped to hear about it is the real question.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 17 2015 16:02 GMT
#1182
On November 18 2015 00:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 21:18 bertolo wrote:
Haters gonna hate. I think the people that thrash on these games just don't enjoy the general game play and wish it was something else.


Imagine Activision buying Starcraft brand from Blizzard and creating a turn-based, ultra-simplified mobile cash-grabber. It's ultra popular, but it's not anywhere close around what it has been.
So yeah, hate on bitchsoft is justified. Enjoy the game that is actually totally not Fallout and enjoy giving more moneys to beth - that will assure them than no matter how bad/buggy their game is gonna be, it's gonna sell like crazy and have 90+ metacritic score.

Sad.


Hyperbole will be hyperbolic. Isn't it just a little disingenuous to suggest that the relationship between Starcraft and mobile freemium games is the same as the relationship between Fallout 1/2 and the more recent Fallout games? Come on now, no one takes you seriously when you make arguments like that, even if you are entitled to your opinion.

And Archangel, I've only put 24 hours into Fallout 4 so far and I've enjoyed every minute of it. That alone would be worth the $60 pricetag, but I've only scratched the surface, so yeah, Bethesda deserves my money. Not everyone needs it to be game of the century to be worth $60, just like not everyone wants to spend $60 on a game they don't like. You wonder why people react so aggressively to you, well calling them "sheep" for the games they enjoy might have something to do with it. We get it that you wished Fallout 4 was a different game, but it's not. And because of that, you seem hellbent on trying to convince everyone else to hate it as much as you do. That's not productive its just spiteful.

Not to mention the underlying fact that it's a fucking video game. First world problems, right?
bertolo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
November 17 2015 18:30 GMT
#1183
On November 18 2015 00:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 21:18 bertolo wrote:
Haters gonna hate. I think the people that thrash on these games just don't enjoy the general game play and wish it was something else.


Imagine Activision buying Starcraft brand from Blizzard and creating a turn-based, ultra-simplified mobile cash-grabber. It's ultra popular, but it's not anywhere close around what it has been.
So yeah, hate on bitchsoft is justified. Enjoy the game that is actually totally not Fallout and enjoy giving more moneys to beth - that will assure them than no matter how bad/buggy their game is gonna be, it's gonna sell like crazy and have 90+ metacritic score.

Sad.


You literally just proved the quote you took from my post. Good job. You are pretty sad, keep that hate train going buddy.

Back on topic, are there any legendary pieces of power armor? I'm probably not high enough level but I'm curious. Also any hints on where or how to get a rail spike gun?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 20:43:30
November 17 2015 18:32 GMT
#1184
yeah there are, they are not the most inventive stuff out there but its fun to loot

By the way, i think the game is well worth the full retail price

another question its if games are worth or not $60 dollars, but thats a completely different topic
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 19:54:54
November 17 2015 19:53 GMT
#1185
Apparently im a tool and an idiot for handing over $60 (i'll use dollars for you american dawgs) for Fallout 4. A game ive already put - let me check - 29 (+ the 4 or so unrecorded from VPN shenanigans) hours into. Ive put a combined 250+ hours into New Vegas / Fallout 3 and i never paid full price for either + i pirated vegas' DLC in its entirety.

So, 34 hours of entertainment in a single week with the promise of MANY more for the $60 price tag, i sure am a fucking tool.

As an added note, ive been pleasantly surprised by the state of its release, ive not run into any bugs myself let alone gamebreaking (ok the elevator glitch that happened once and made me reload put me ~2 minutes behind) and i havent crashed once. My style of gameplay makes survival an actual challenge too, ive always had to mod F3/Vegas to get a challenge out of it.
Useless wet fish.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 17 2015 20:04 GMT
#1186
You are clearly an uncultured peasant that doesn’t understand how objective terrible the game is. If only you had listened to the superior luminaries of Video Games to see that your enjoyment is based on a lie. If you had just formed an objective opinion rather than buying into the hype, this all could have been avoided. /s
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 17 2015 20:05 GMT
#1187
On November 18 2015 04:53 Capped wrote:
Apparently im a tool and an idiot for handing over $60 (i'll use dollars for you american dawgs) for Fallout 4. A game ive already put - let me check - 29 (+ the 4 or so unrecorded from VPN shenanigans) hours into. Ive put a combined 250+ hours into New Vegas / Fallout 3 and i never paid full price for either + i pirated vegas' DLC in its entirety.

So, 34 hours of entertainment in a single week with the promise of MANY more for the $60 price tag, i sure am a fucking tool.

As an added note, ive been pleasantly surprised by the state of its release, ive not run into any bugs myself let alone gamebreaking (ok the elevator glitch that happened once and made me reload put me ~2 minutes behind) and i havent crashed once. My style of gameplay makes survival an actual challenge too, ive always had to mod F3/Vegas to get a challenge out of it.


GMG had a FO4 promo for 20% off, about $48. Unfortunately I missed that deal.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 20:19:17
November 17 2015 20:13 GMT
#1188
I finally found a bleed weapon with high fire rate namely a pipe rifle. It shreds everything on survival it's not even funny :D
mind mind mind mind mind mind
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 17 2015 20:23 GMT
#1189
Fallout 4 is on fire breaking records and even parts of the Internet. Todd Howard, Fallout 4 game director, continues to fan those flames, teasing a post-launch expansion pack.

Surpassing previous sales records and even causing drastic drops in traffic to popular adult video websites, Fallout 4 will no doubt continue to make waves with its first upcoming downloadable content (DLC), which has many gamers eagerly anticipating its release early next year.

Because the game was just launched, Bethesda wants players to explore Fallout 4's expansive Commonwealth first before its developers finalize what gets included in the game's expansion packs.


For Fallout 4, Bethesda is taking on a different approach in its development of the game's DLCs. The company will consider feedback from the game's players and will be monitoring what players like and dislike so it can shape future updates and content for DLCs all based on what the fans want.

"Because what they bring to it is really important[,] we're going to see what people like, what they want more of, what they want different, and we're going to do that," Howard said of fans, adding, "Our fans are amazing; they're super-smart. This is important to them, just like it is to us."

On the flip side, however, some players are doubting Bethesda's strategy with Fallout 4's DLCs. The company already received flak for taking preorders for the game's DLCs even though there haven't been any concrete plans on what kind of gameplay the expansion packs would even include. Now divergent members of the Fallout 4 community suspect they will be treated as guinea pigs for bugs, glitches and content gaps.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 17 2015 20:29 GMT
#1190
On November 18 2015 05:05 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 04:53 Capped wrote:
Apparently im a tool and an idiot for handing over $60 (i'll use dollars for you american dawgs) for Fallout 4. A game ive already put - let me check - 29 (+ the 4 or so unrecorded from VPN shenanigans) hours into. Ive put a combined 250+ hours into New Vegas / Fallout 3 and i never paid full price for either + i pirated vegas' DLC in its entirety.

So, 34 hours of entertainment in a single week with the promise of MANY more for the $60 price tag, i sure am a fucking tool.

As an added note, ive been pleasantly surprised by the state of its release, ive not run into any bugs myself let alone gamebreaking (ok the elevator glitch that happened once and made me reload put me ~2 minutes behind) and i havent crashed once. My style of gameplay makes survival an actual challenge too, ive always had to mod F3/Vegas to get a challenge out of it.


GMG had a FO4 promo for 20% off, about $48. Unfortunately I missed that deal.


Honestly i saw it and couldnt be bothered with the hassle of creating an account & waiting around for the code and all that rubbish, unsure if i would get the preload or the key at 12am etc, so when i got home @ 7pm on the 9th i just bought on steam and used the aussie vpn trick for easy access
Useless wet fish.
KrOeastbound
Profile Joined August 2015
England59 Posts
November 17 2015 20:37 GMT
#1191
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.

Kind of looking forward myself to see if Obsidian will get another crack at a Fallout title.

bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 17 2015 21:12 GMT
#1192
On November 18 2015 05:37 KrOeastbound wrote:
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.

Kind of looking forward myself to see if Obsidian will get another crack at a Fallout title.


If a company somehow bought chess and turned it into a 3d version of tic tac toe there would indeed be a few problems.

The only reason there is this flak at all is because the game bethesda just released is so different to what fallout is, that it really shouldn't be called fallout.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 17 2015 21:17 GMT
#1193
What if a bunch of FO 1-2 super fans held a contest to see who could make the best shitty-analogy to comparing FO 1-2 to FO 3-4? Then they could pool them all to find the best and go around the internet dropping this enlightenment on the masses.

Man, that would be great.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
November 17 2015 21:23 GMT
#1194
On November 18 2015 05:37 KrOeastbound wrote:
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.



Of course but that's not really what irks people about Bethesda's Fallout games. It's more that you have millions of people spending 500+ hours on this lowbrow entertainment, to the exclusion of anything else, and probably never having touched a turn-based RPG, or maybe even knowing what a turn-based RPG is.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
November 17 2015 21:31 GMT
#1195
On November 18 2015 06:23 Yacobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 05:37 KrOeastbound wrote:
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.



Of course but that's not really what irks people about Bethesda's Fallout games. It's more that you have millions of people spending 500+ hours on this lowbrow entertainment, to the exclusion of anything else, and probably never having touched a turn-based RPG, or maybe even knowing what a turn-based RPG is.

Who cares if "millions of people" (lol) spend 500+ hours on Fallout 4? What does it matter that they haven't touched a turn-based RPG? Get off your high horse. One genre is not objectively better than the other.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 17 2015 21:59 GMT
#1196
On November 18 2015 06:23 Yacobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 05:37 KrOeastbound wrote:
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.



Of course but that's not really what irks people about Bethesda's Fallout games. It's more that you have millions of people spending 500+ hours on this lowbrow entertainment, to the exclusion of anything else, and probably never having touched a turn-based RPG, or maybe even knowing what a turn-based RPG is.

how frustrating that must be for you
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 17 2015 22:02 GMT
#1197
On November 18 2015 06:59 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 06:23 Yacobs wrote:
On November 18 2015 05:37 KrOeastbound wrote:
Nothing wrong with some lowbrow forms of entertainment to wind down with. If a big hiking simulator where OCD looting is gaming heaven to you then go for it and fuck what other people think. I like cheesy Jean-Claude Van Damme movies from the 80's. Doesn't make me a bad person or inherently stupid for finding them enjoyable.



Of course but that's not really what irks people about Bethesda's Fallout games. It's more that you have millions of people spending 500+ hours on this lowbrow entertainment, to the exclusion of anything else, and probably never having touched a turn-based RPG, or maybe even knowing what a turn-based RPG is.

how frustrating that must be for you

His suffering knows no bounds. It is deep and eternal.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-17 23:29:42
November 17 2015 23:17 GMT
#1198
By the way, if you are getting it on consoles i would wait a couple of months, not because of the performance BUT because theres some weird bugs that i could only fix with some console commands, and according to reddit some of them did appear on consoles too
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 18 2015 00:11 GMT
#1199
On November 18 2015 05:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Fallout 4 is on fire breaking records and even parts of the Internet. Todd Howard, Fallout 4 game director, continues to fan those flames, teasing a post-launch expansion pack.

Surpassing previous sales records and even causing drastic drops in traffic to popular adult video websites, Fallout 4 will no doubt continue to make waves with its first upcoming downloadable content (DLC), which has many gamers eagerly anticipating its release early next year.

Because the game was just launched, Bethesda wants players to explore Fallout 4's expansive Commonwealth first before its developers finalize what gets included in the game's expansion packs.


Show nested quote +
For Fallout 4, Bethesda is taking on a different approach in its development of the game's DLCs. The company will consider feedback from the game's players and will be monitoring what players like and dislike so it can shape future updates and content for DLCs all based on what the fans want.

"Because what they bring to it is really important[,] we're going to see what people like, what they want more of, what they want different, and we're going to do that," Howard said of fans, adding, "Our fans are amazing; they're super-smart. This is important to them, just like it is to us."

On the flip side, however, some players are doubting Bethesda's strategy with Fallout 4's DLCs. The company already received flak for taking preorders for the game's DLCs even though there haven't been any concrete plans on what kind of gameplay the expansion packs would even include. Now divergent members of the Fallout 4 community suspect they will be treated as guinea pigs for bugs, glitches and content gaps.


Source

I wish they would work on fixing the game first before DLC's.
liftlift > tsm
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 18 2015 01:50 GMT
#1200
On November 18 2015 06:17 Plansix wrote:
What if a bunch of FO 1-2 super fans held a contest to see who could make the best shitty-analogy to comparing FO 1-2 to FO 3-4? Then they could pool them all to find the best and go around the internet dropping this enlightenment on the masses.

Man, that would be great.

Do you think the erosion of what it means to be a fallout game is similar to the erosion of what it means to be a person from a nation afflicted by rampant globalisation?

Can I claim some sort of benefit somewhere for fallout erosion and get into a job easier do you reckon?
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 77 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 699
ProTech150
elazer 108
BRAT_OK 103
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24734
Shuttle 630
Jaedong 358
Dewaltoss 125
Bonyth 95
Shine 6
910 4
Dota 2
febbydoto14
League of Legends
C9.Mang0235
Counter-Strike
fl0m1732
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu541
Khaldor193
Other Games
Grubby5382
FrodaN2429
Pyrionflax481
mouzStarbuck464
B2W.Neo317
NarutO 30
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 63
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 63
• StrangeGG 58
• naamasc242
• davetesta21
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• 80smullet 19
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie3367
• Shiphtur298
Upcoming Events
OSC
16h 7m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 6h
OSC
1d 15h
IPSL
1d 17h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.