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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On November 16 2015 18:27 Targe wrote: you mean it has better gunplay FO4 allows you to make immediate and subtle decisions that do influence your style of play. For example, my character would be absolutely terrible at combat if he didn't have his plethora of high tech weaponry that is highly modified along with advanced power armor with all the modifications on it. Give him a Pipe Rifle and he would suck. But, since he is walking around with a highly modified Laser Rifle/Plasma Rifle, it doesn't matter. Alot of what Bethesda did was work heavily on the combat system (as this was a major complaint from FO3, New Vegas to an extent, and Skyrim) and made it alot of fun to play without even using VATs. In the process though, they did cut out quite a few dialogue options that allow interesting decisions to be made. FO4's RPG in regards to its combat system is great. Every character does feel different and plays differently (a character specializing in Rifles is obviously going to be suited to longer range combat and use mines to cover himself, while an assault rifle character will take different perks in the first 30ish levels or so). It's more streamlined for sure, but that doesn't mean it's a 'simplified' version of New Vegas. In regards to story/impact of your character's decision, yeah Fallout 4 is pretty bad about that. Bethesda however has always been pretty shit in that regard, and I've always accepted that. | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On November 15 2015 01:03 Faruko wrote: can i say im hooked to the fucking game but i dont find it THAT good ? its weird, i play it a lot and literally cant stop but i can see the flaws in the game and some stupid stuff (Do i really need to drop all my junk to scrap it, wtf bethesda) a solid 7.5/10 IMO, but you wont stop playing it i'm exactly in the same camp. it's not the same feeling as i got from final fantasy 10, Witcher 3, GTA V, it doesn't fully absorb you into the plot and content. this is the type of game which caters to the customization of the protagonist / to be universally acceptable, it suffers from not being able to delve into a deep theme. i think they did a great job overall to be honest i don't think any other game has had the ability to fully allow you to develop different routes of play and have them all still be pretty good...no one branch of skills are bad from what i've seen | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On November 16 2015 21:04 saocyn wrote: i'm exactly in the same camp. it's not the same feeling as i got from final fantasy 10, Witcher 3, GTA V, it doesn't fully absorb you into the plot and content. this is the type of game which caters to the customization of the protagonist / to be universally acceptable, it suffers from not being able to delve into a deep theme. i think they did a great job overall to be honest i don't think any other game has had the ability to fully allow you to develop different routes of play and have them all still be pretty good...no one branch of skills are bad from what i've seen The content and side quests are actually really good; you can create your own stories in the game. The issue really is just that the actual main plot blows, which has always been an achilles heel for Bethesda. That will probably hold them back from beating the Witcher 3 in alot of GOTY awards this year, as the Witcher 3 pretty much has the complete package. | ||
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malcram
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Hoenicker
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On November 16 2015 21:36 Hoenicker wrote: I liked the W3 a lot too, but its combat system basically remains the same from lvl 1 up to end game, same buttons, same combo's; just better swords. It did have a better story, but so far I'm not even that disappointed with the FO4 story either. I like the open world, exploration aspect, and would say its better than W3. Both games are great but I like the way FO4 allows you to customize the game, and the way its played. I also like the way Bethesda tend to throw you in the deep end, after leaving you in the setting, allow you to wonder over the whole map, get raped by high lvl monsters and figure it out yourself. What I think is one of the majoy differences between W3 and Bethesda games is that all items in Beth games somehow matter. That was actually the reason, I stoped playing W3 pretty fast. In W3 90% of all items you find have no purpose at all. It's all about finding the diagrams for the wichter gear and then craft it at the required levels. And you find some diagrams so early, that hours worth of game times become absolutely irrelevant item-wise. In Bethesda games all items are useful. You often find upgrades to you weapons and armor, the junk is used for crafting and the rest you can sell for money, which is actually pretty useful since many good weapons and armor can only be bought from vendors. For me that kinda progression and reward and very essential to my gaming experience. W3 maybe has better writing, definitely better staging and graphics but since itemization is so boring, I can't find myself playing. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 16 2015 21:07 superstartran wrote: The content and side quests are actually really good; you can create your own stories in the game. The issue really is just that the actual main plot blows, which has always been an achilles heel for Bethesda. That will probably hold them back from beating the Witcher 3 in alot of GOTY awards this year, as the Witcher 3 pretty much has the complete package. What side quests? Kill raiders? Bring item? Creating your own story? Really? How? By making settlements and having trading between them? Than Settlers or Anno games is more RPG than Fo4. Even Civilization games are more RPG.. the shit I read on the internet these days... | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 16 2015 22:41 -Archangel- wrote: What side quests? Kill raiders? Bring item? Creating your own story? Really? How? By making settlements and having trading between them? Than Settlers or Anno games is more RPG than Fo4. Even Civilization games are more RPG.. the shit I read on the internet these days... USS Constitution? Vault 81? | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
 so i will put at least 20+ hours in this andhope it will live up the hype because lotv didn't. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 16 2015 22:59 Isualin wrote: I have finished the lotv campaign on the weekend(priorities) so had no time to play this yet. It was hard but i did not watch any streams to not spoil myself as well. I got two days off from work starting tomorrow so i will put at least 20+ hours in this andhope it will live up the hype because lotv didn't.20 hours won't get you far - in my playthrough, i didn't even touch the main quest line after 20 hours.  | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
I also don't understand why people are comparing this with The Witcher 3. TW3 is massively overrated imo. Some of the quests in that game may be decently written, but everything else about it is really bland. Map is just meh, combat feels as repetitive as assassins creed 1 and the item system is straight up garbage. I think many of you people fell into the hype trap, what with all the posts on imgur, 9gag, reddit and so on. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:03 Animzor wrote: Personally I think this game is extremely immersive. I love how I can walk in any direction and very quickly find a storyline. The holotapes and notes provide you with a glimpse into what happened before the war and there are some really amazing and crazy stories out there. I also don't understand why people are comparing this with The Witcher 3. TW3 is massively overrated imo. Some of the quests in that game may be decently written, but everything else about it is really bland. Map is just meh, combat feels as repetitive as assassins creed 1 and the item system is straight up garbage. I think many of you people fell into the hype trap, what with all the posts on imgur, 9gag, reddit and so on. It might come down to how you play the game. Don't get me wrong: i agree that it is very immersive, because of the way i (and apparently you) play it. Someone who just runs from marker to marker, just spamming enter whenever text comes up.. He might not be. I think, if you play the game like far cry 4 for example, it'll be disappointing. Not that that's the way it's meant to be played, but considering some stupid postings in this thread, i assume some do. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:03 Animzor wrote: Personally I think this game is extremely immersive. I love how I can walk in any direction and very quickly find a storyline. The holotapes and notes provide you with a glimpse into what happened before the war and there are some really amazing and crazy stories out there. I also don't understand why people are comparing this with The Witcher 3. TW3 is massively overrated imo. Some of the quests in that game may be decently written, but everything else about it is really bland. Map is just meh, combat feels as repetitive as assassins creed 1 and the item system is straight up garbage. I think many of you people fell into the hype trap, what with all the posts on imgur, 9gag, reddit and so on. are you talking about fallout or witcher 3 there | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:38 Faruko wrote: are you talking about fallout or witcher 3 there Fallout 4. One of the most overhyped games ever. As soon as the hypetrain started I knew it wouldn't live up to peoples expectations. Has any game ever lived up to the hype? | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On November 17 2015 00:00 Animzor wrote: Fallout 4. One of the most overhyped games ever. As soon as the hypetrain started I knew it wouldn't live up to peoples expectations. Has any game ever lived up to the hype? Personally, I was very sceptical and thought the game's problems would outweigh the positive sides. However, I really enjoyed it once I started playing it. So not true in my case. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
Maybe i enjoy it so much because it lived up to my expectations, not the expectations of others. | ||
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
On November 16 2015 21:07 superstartran wrote: The content and side quests are actually really good; you can create your own stories in the game. The issue really is just that the actual main plot blows, which has always been an achilles heel for Bethesda. That will probably hold them back from beating the Witcher 3 in alot of GOTY awards this year, as the Witcher 3 pretty much has the complete package. As long as Morrowind still exists, the main story sucking won't "always" have been their achilles heel. Unless you're one of those people who thinks Bethesda hasn't made games before Oblivion, at least. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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