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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5021 Posts
December 09 2015 07:19 GMT
#141
This is hilarious! I don't think it's as big a deal as people say, but it's still dumb, espeically the part where you hold to get more accurate. I wish I knew what Volvo had going in in their collective head.

However, smurfing just became so much more fun. If only I could have deag and R8. Maybe I'll just use them on different sides.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 09 2015 07:20 GMT
#142
watching freak's stream and holy hell this is sad to watch

how did anyone at valve think the r8 was a good idea
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7190 Posts
December 09 2015 07:24 GMT
#143
What the fuck, is volvo trying to kill CS, what the fucajdalskdj?!! 40 sec bomb timer aswell? Feels like a fucking aprils fool joke, not an actual update. Dumb shit
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 09 2015 07:26 GMT
#144
Valve went full half-ass on this patch.

People wanted competitive timers in MM? Okay but instead we set them in the middle on force them on everyone.
People wanted a nerf to the run and gun pistols? Okay we nerf the running accuracy of most pistols but we introduce a broken pistol that one-shots and has ridiculous moving accuracy.

What the hell are they doing? Goddamn make your mind and coordinate your fucking team before releasing an update. It can't be that hard with how small that team is. It also really highlights how little they understand about their own game, which is sad.

That being said I really want to try that new gun to see how broken it is, but I can't play until tomorrow and I feel it will be nerfed by then
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
December 09 2015 07:52 GMT
#145
On December 09 2015 16:26 Roggay wrote:
Valve went full half-ass on this patch.

People wanted competitive timers in MM? Okay but instead we set them in the middle on force them on everyone.
People wanted a nerf to the run and gun pistols? Okay we nerf the running accuracy of most pistols but we introduce a broken pistol that one-shots and has ridiculous moving accuracy.

What the hell are they doing? Goddamn make your mind and coordinate your fucking team before releasing an update. It can't be that hard with how small that team is. It also really highlights how little they understand about their own game, which is sad.

That being said I really want to try that new gun to see how broken it is, but I can't play until tomorrow and I feel it will be nerfed by then


If memory serves, it took them long enough to nerf the CZ and AUG during their respective periods of broken-ness (particularly the AUG) that, assuming they take the same amount of time here, you'll have plenty of time to experience top-r8ed CSGO before they scale anything back.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 09 2015 08:00 GMT
#146
On December 09 2015 16:52 RuiBarbO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 16:26 Roggay wrote:
Valve went full half-ass on this patch.

People wanted competitive timers in MM? Okay but instead we set them in the middle on force them on everyone.
People wanted a nerf to the run and gun pistols? Okay we nerf the running accuracy of most pistols but we introduce a broken pistol that one-shots and has ridiculous moving accuracy.

What the hell are they doing? Goddamn make your mind and coordinate your fucking team before releasing an update. It can't be that hard with how small that team is. It also really highlights how little they understand about their own game, which is sad.

That being said I really want to try that new gun to see how broken it is, but I can't play until tomorrow and I feel it will be nerfed by then


If memory serves, it took them long enough to nerf the CZ and AUG during their respective periods of broken-ness (particularly the AUG) that, assuming they take the same amount of time here, you'll have plenty of time to experience top-r8ed CSGO before they scale anything back.

To be fair they are updating the game a lot more these days, so hopefully it won't take too long.
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 08:04:19
December 09 2015 08:03 GMT
#147
Valve needs to fucking test these updates before rolling them out. Ask the pros, make a beta client, ANYTHING. This is ridiculous, the R8 is the most idiotic thing ever.

At least they nerfed the pistols a bit so that's good I guess. But that revolver...
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
December 09 2015 08:08 GMT
#148
Game is so buggy after the update:

After round is over, but the next one hasn't started, the screen flickers.

I can see whoever I am spectating from the inside (I've seen that this was a problem earlier)

The game has trouble reloading if I tab. It gets stuck when I re-enter, so I have to wait, tab again, and then reenter. Takes around 30 seconds total.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 09 2015 08:10 GMT
#149
They really don't bother with QA do they? Let alone actually have beta servers.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
December 09 2015 08:36 GMT
#150
On December 09 2015 17:08 Mozdk wrote:
Game is so buggy after the update:

After round is over, but the next one hasn't started, the screen flickers.

I can see whoever I am spectating from the inside (I've seen that this was a problem earlier)

The game has trouble reloading if I tab. It gets stuck when I re-enter, so I have to wait, tab again, and then reenter. Takes around 30 seconds total.


your video settings might be reset from the patch
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 09 2015 10:01 GMT
#151
The official timers on MM would've made planting hard, and planting OP, as, as was mentioned, there's nearly not enough coordination in this queue to actually retake fast enough as CT, or to work the map as T and get quickly into a site when the time starts to run out.

Regardless, except for the R8 which seems quite broken, I like these changes. Don't really know how things will even out, but I like that Valve takes the same approach with CS:GO than with DotA (even if less violent), making drastic changes to the game. It forces people to adapt, promotes playstyle changes and thinking, which I like.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 10:07:28
December 09 2015 10:06 GMT
#152
On December 09 2015 19:01 Ragnarork wrote:
The official timers on MM would've made planting hard, and planting OP, as, as was mentioned, there's nearly not enough coordination in this queue to actually retake fast enough as CT, or to work the map as T and get quickly into a site when the time starts to run out.

Regardless, except for the R8 which seems quite broken, I like these changes. Don't really know how things will even out, but I like that Valve takes the same approach with CS:GO than with DotA (even if less violent), making drastic changes to the game. It forces people to adapt, promotes playstyle changes and thinking, which I like.

There is a difference between making drastic changes that are needed compared to random drastic changes that come out of nowhere. Seriously, no one was asking for a new pistol.
I don't mind them adding guns that much, BUT the real bad thing about the whole situation is that it came out of nowhere for even the pros (even the timer and rifle changes). My understanding of dota2 is that icefrog atleast communicates with the pros about the changes, even if they are drastic. There is little to no communication with the csgo team and they pull random shit out of their asses all the time. The least they could do is to atleast test their stuff.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 10:18:15
December 09 2015 10:17 GMT
#153
I agree on the test and communication part.

Other than that, no, drastic changes must surprise and break the game. They must _change_ the game. If it's just "oh, that gun seems a bit strong for its cost we'll remove one bullet and reduce slightly RoF", like for the M4A1-S, it's not a drastic change. Doesn't mean it should be left untouched and no tweaks should be done afterwards.

I do think the R8 is broken in its current state. I don't think it was a bad thing to add a gun and to change the range of the switch spray/burst-tap.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 10:24:23
December 09 2015 10:20 GMT
#154
On December 09 2015 19:17 Ragnarork wrote:
I agree on the test and communication part.

Other than that, no, drastic changes must surprise and break the game. They must _change_ the game. If it's just "oh, that gun seems a bit strong for its cost we'll remove one bullet and reduce slightly RoF", like for the M4A1-S, it's not a drastic change. Doesn't mean it should be left untouched and no tweaks should be done afterwards.

I do think the R8 is broken in its current state. I don't think it was a bad thing to add a gun and to change the range of the switch spray/burst-tap.

I am much more in favor of little incremental changes personally.
And the R8 looks extremely broken. Hope they ban it for the next few tournaments until it is nerfed to the ground.

Also, csgo is not in beta, the game is not in a state where drastic changes are needed. And if they want to do stuff like this, atleast have a beta client to test it.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 09 2015 10:28 GMT
#155
You should take a look at DotA, because that's their approach. And it works quite well to avoid having a game in a completely stale state. That's what I like, it's a matter of opinion, but for DotA it actually works, even though, and it's a consequence of that, some meta are less interesting than others (like during 2012 or 2013 IIRC, when the extremely-fast-push-no-teamfight was quite the norm...)

That's why I don't mind them doing that. Nothing to do with the game being in beta or not, it's an approach to game balance/meta refreshing. They should test it more thoroughly though, that's for sure.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 09 2015 10:29 GMT
#156
http://oddshot.tv/shot/godazed-2015120945541158
http://www.twitch.tv/killerahri/v/29005554

Lmao
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
December 09 2015 10:31 GMT
#157
Valve saw McCree and said 'we can make a revolver even more broken'
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 09 2015 10:33 GMT
#158
What's that thing Dazed is doing with the gunlock? Like a pre-firing mechanism he can activate beforehand and cancel...
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 09 2015 10:40 GMT
#159
The normal attack, has a slight charge. You hold down mouse1, wait ~0.5 seconds, and then it fires (with perfect accuracy/100dmg etc), you can let go of mouse1 just before it's about to fire to cancel, as a way to "preaim" with the gun so you don't really have to wait for the charge delay. If you see an opponent, just keep holding mouse1 and it'll fire, if you don't, let go to cancel the animation, rinse repeat.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 09 2015 10:45 GMT
#160
Oh ok. The update doesn't really describe the gun, so well...

Tis retarded. That may sounds like a way to add some drawback to the gun (if you fire reactively you have a disadvantage), but in practice that looks completely inefficient :<
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