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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 07 2015 00:06 GMT
#1121
With the size of the community, it wouldn't work. Also, the idea has been suggested and the devs said it was the wrong way to go about it.

Despite the obvious size problems, the devs haven't decided to cut their losses and quit yet. Also, they promised more players within the next few weeks. Let's see if they will make good on that promise.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 07 2015 14:47 GMT
#1122
On June 07 2015 09:06 LegalLord wrote:
With the size of the community, it wouldn't work. Also, the idea has been suggested and the devs said it was the wrong way to go about it.

Despite the obvious size problems, the devs haven't decided to cut their losses and quit yet. Also, they promised more players within the next few weeks. Let's see if they will make good on that promise.

Putting the game in Humble Bundle would bring lots of new players for sure :D
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10695 Posts
June 07 2015 14:51 GMT
#1123
I am going to be playing and streaming Grey Goo again soon I hope they really do up the player base by making the game really cheap, 50$ was a huge marketing mistake.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 07 2015 15:10 GMT
#1124
On June 07 2015 08:16 GGzerG wrote:
Yea, I think there needs to be a kick starter started to save grey goo, because it is the best RTS we have aside from StarCraft I think ...the internet can save Grey Goo if we try~


50$ was a huge marketing mistake.


Several recent games such as Witcher 3 cost £50/65 euro now, which is about 75 dollars (1.5x more)

Also i don't think it's worth the effort TBH. It's gone. They'd have to do way too much work to have a decent game that would hold up long term including at least major changes to the main engine if not a complete re-write of a lot of the code
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 07 2015 15:14 GMT
#1125
We need to know if the game was or not a commercial failure.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10695 Posts
June 07 2015 15:32 GMT
#1126
On June 08 2015 00:14 Faruko wrote:
We need to know if the game was or not a commercial failure.

It absolutely was a commercial failure, but I still think it has a lot of potential, and I would really like to play it more, the Goo Race was so fun.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 15:39:41
June 07 2015 15:38 GMT
#1127
Thats sad

but to be fair, RTS is indeed a dying genre :/ the most played one is (duh) sc2 and it has about 300k active players (althou im not sure since unique =/= active)

ok, maybe not dying, but stagnant
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 07 2015 15:54 GMT
#1128
Personally I can't give the game a try at 50$, but I'll probably get it if it ever comes on sale :D.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 16:01:39
June 07 2015 15:58 GMT
#1129
Drop it to $25, "remake" the game as an enhanced edition (free for owners, just fix the bugs, add some maps, maybe some extra stuff, like full modding options) and it might be revive
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#1130
I know plenty of people who would be willing to try it if it were cheaper. I can't say that I agree with the pessimistic outlook of some people in here.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12685 Posts
June 07 2015 16:03 GMT
#1131
On June 07 2015 00:06 TaShadan wrote:
No real oldschool style rts games in the list but still some interesting stuff. Looking forward to Satellite Reign, Project Phoenix and War for the Overworld. The new heroes is interesting too but i hate Uplay...

I backed project Phoenix, it should be good. :p
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 07 2015 16:06 GMT
#1132
On June 08 2015 01:01 LegalLord wrote:
I know plenty of people who would be willing to try it if it were cheaper. I can't say that I agree with the pessimistic outlook of some people in here.


I was personally responsible for three sales of the game but it just doesn't work. Any incoming progress is at a snails pace because there's nobody left who cares about the game, you literally can't find a 1v1 match.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 07 2015 16:31 GMT
#1133
I think that a few hundred more active players would fix that problem, though of course getting those players is far from a simple task. Though if they got a few popular streamers interested and had it 50% off, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that they could make it happen.

The point is that the lack of players is the biggest outstanding issue right now. There are ways to fix that, so I wouldn't call it hopeless.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 07 2015 16:36 GMT
#1134
The lack of players is because of the other outstanding issues though, several of which make it impossible for the game to gain a large audience
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 07 2015 16:46 GMT
#1135
Most of those issues are resolved. The game runs much more smoothly than on release, and replays, observers, and dedicated servers are almost finished.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 17:00:49
June 07 2015 16:55 GMT
#1136
For what its worth I and most the people I knew quit because it was slow, boring and defensive more than anything. Personally I really dislike all these newer RTS games that feel "cumbersome", I prefer crisp reactions and unrealistic turn cycles etc, like StarCraft and the older CnC games (more for ground, air is arguably better with this). A couple quit from not having beastly rigs but yea. I really want another RTS to succeed but other than the goo faction I didn't really see much I liked about grey goo.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 17:03:54
June 07 2015 17:02 GMT
#1137
A couple quit from not having beastly rigs but yea.


There is no CPU on the planet faster than mine (overclocked current gen, game doesn't benefit from >4 cores) for running the game and it's the worst performing game i have ever played. It ran terribly before units spawned, but then when you were mining from 12 different places across the map and had 300 worker units it was unplayable.

I'l check out performance now, but i don't have much faith in the devs. I played after the specific big "performance update". That drastically improved performance in some areas, but still left the pronounced stutters 20 times per second on the game simulation ticks.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
June 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#1138
On June 08 2015 02:02 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
A couple quit from not having beastly rigs but yea.


There is no CPU on the planet faster than mine (overclocked current gen, game doesn't benefit from >4 cores) for running the game and it's the worst performing game i have ever played. It ran terribly before units spawned, but then when you were mining from 12 different places across the map and had 300 worker units it was unplayable.

I'l check out performance now, but i don't have much faith in the devs. I played after the specific big "performance update". That drastically improved performance in some areas, but still left the pronounced stutters 20 times per second on the game simulation ticks.


Yea I know, im on a 5ghz 4790k and it still was laggy lategame.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 07 2015 17:31 GMT
#1139
On June 08 2015 02:29 Iksf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 02:02 Cyro wrote:
A couple quit from not having beastly rigs but yea.


There is no CPU on the planet faster than mine (overclocked current gen, game doesn't benefit from >4 cores) for running the game and it's the worst performing game i have ever played. It ran terribly before units spawned, but then when you were mining from 12 different places across the map and had 300 worker units it was unplayable.

I'l check out performance now, but i don't have much faith in the devs. I played after the specific big "performance update". That drastically improved performance in some areas, but still left the pronounced stutters 20 times per second on the game simulation ticks.


Yea I know, im on a 5ghz 4790k and it still was laggy lategame.


It was noticeably choppy even on 60hz when zoning into a map vs AI. That's not acceptable when you're going to be running far worse after actually building units and have the best hardware available.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
June 07 2015 17:34 GMT
#1140
i7 970 here 0 lag late game

Pretty sure the lag issues are fixed... if you still have lag issues it might just be your graphics card driver and stuff like that.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
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