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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21948 Posts
November 06 2015 20:40 GMT
#1541
On November 07 2015 05:37 Requizen wrote:
What big competitive games started out F2P aside from LoL and Dota? I can't think of a single one that didn't have a price tag on Day 1 that became a big popular game.

I'm ok paying $40 (below the average price of a game) for a Blizzard game. They make quality stuff.

Even if future champions have to be unlocked?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:42 GMT
#1542
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2015 20:42 GMT
#1543
On November 07 2015 05:42 iXphobos wrote:
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.

The lack of a single player is the reason it is $40.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:44 GMT
#1544
On November 07 2015 05:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:42 iXphobos wrote:
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.

The lack of a single player is the reason it is $40.

What do games with single player cost then 100$ ???
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 06 2015 20:44 GMT
#1545
On November 07 2015 05:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:37 Requizen wrote:
What big competitive games started out F2P aside from LoL and Dota? I can't think of a single one that didn't have a price tag on Day 1 that became a big popular game.

I'm ok paying $40 (below the average price of a game) for a Blizzard game. They make quality stuff.

Even if future champions have to be unlocked?


I would be very disappointed in Blizzard if that is the plan. =/
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 06 2015 20:45 GMT
#1546
On November 07 2015 05:44 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:42 Plansix wrote:
On November 07 2015 05:42 iXphobos wrote:
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.

The lack of a single player is the reason it is $40.

What do games with single player cost then 100$ ???

Most games when they launch cost $60... you do play other games, right?
It's your boy Guzma!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2015 20:45 GMT
#1547
On November 07 2015 05:44 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:42 Plansix wrote:
On November 07 2015 05:42 iXphobos wrote:
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.

The lack of a single player is the reason it is $40.

What do games with single player cost then 100$ ???

No, they cost $60 normally.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#1548
On November 07 2015 05:45 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:44 iXphobos wrote:
On November 07 2015 05:42 Plansix wrote:
On November 07 2015 05:42 iXphobos wrote:
So for 40 bucks they defenitely have to add at least 2 more gamemodes plus maps.
Some sort of singleplayer experience would be also nice.
I'm really curious what's about to come on the Overwatch panel.

The lack of a single player is the reason it is $40.

What do games with single player cost then 100$ ???

Most games when they launch cost $60... you do play other games, right?

Hm, i heard of that before, but i never played 60$ for a PC game.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#1549
I was thinking this game might become next big competitive FPS but with 40$ price tag not much chance for that.
CS:GO remains king. Also Valve will be happy that TF2 will survive because it had no chance if Overwatch was F2P.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 06 2015 20:49 GMT
#1550
On November 07 2015 05:48 -Archangel- wrote:
I was thinking this game might become next big competitive FPS but with 40$ price tag not much chance for that.
CS:GO remains king. Also Valve will be happy that TF2 will survive because it had no chance if Overwatch was F2P.



people still play TF2? O.O
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:51 GMT
#1551
On November 07 2015 05:48 -Archangel- wrote:
I was thinking this game might become next big competitive FPS but with 40$ price tag not much chance for that.
CS:GO remains king. Also Valve will be happy that TF2 will survive because it had no chance if Overwatch was F2P.

Comparing Overwatch to CS is like comparing StarCraft to Civilization.
Both have a top down view and you click stuff with your mouse, but thats's it.
Overwatch and CS are both First Person Shooters. And that's it.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#1552
That muselk guy just said that future heroes and maps will come for free.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#1553
I love this fictional world people create where other games are destroyed and end when new games are released. Where games costing money prohibits them from having a fan base and other games are king of some weird hill the person created in their mind. Where video games are either winning or losing to each other. Its a war that the people makings the games are not aware of, but its very REAL. The REALIST.

Video games, where tribalism and fandom are king.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 06 2015 20:53 GMT
#1554
On November 07 2015 05:49 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:48 -Archangel- wrote:
I was thinking this game might become next big competitive FPS but with 40$ price tag not much chance for that.
CS:GO remains king. Also Valve will be happy that TF2 will survive because it had no chance if Overwatch was F2P.



people still play TF2? O.O


http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

3rd highest played game on Steam
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#1555
On November 07 2015 05:52 Plansix wrote:
I love this fictional world people create where other games are destroyed and end when new games are released. Where games costing money prohibits them from having a fan base and other games are king of some weird hill the person created in their mind. Where video games are either winning or losing to each other. Its a war that the people makings the games are not aware of, but its very REAL. The REALIST.

Video games, where tribalism and fandom are king.

That is the best post i've read in quite a while.
You sir derserve to be king on the interwebs for the next 4 seconds.
:D
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#1556
On November 07 2015 05:52 iXphobos wrote:
That muselk guy just said that future heroes and maps will come for free.

Well there you go. $40 for all current and future content aside from cosmetics. You can stop pretending we live in this world where Blizz is going to force you to sell your bed to have the full game now.
It's your boy Guzma!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#1557
On November 07 2015 05:52 Plansix wrote:
I love this fictional world people create where other games are destroyed and end when new games are released. Where games costing money prohibits them from having a fan base and other games are king of some weird hill the person created in their mind. Where video games are either winning or losing to each other. Its a war that the people makings the games are not aware of, but its very REAL. The REALIST.

Video games, where tribalism and fandom are king.


People just want to spice up their life with extra drama.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#1558
On November 07 2015 05:37 Requizen wrote:
What big competitive games started out F2P aside from LoL and Dota? I can't think of a single one that didn't have a price tag on Day 1 that became a big popular game.

I'm ok paying $40 (below the average price of a game) for a Blizzard game. They make quality stuff.


top 3 e-sport games are LoL, DotA, and CS:GO

then it's probably SC2 if we're looking at prize money followed by Hearthstone (high stream viewership)

after that, it's Smite?

anyways, I'm sure there will be initial demand for Overwatch as an e-sport, whether the demand will be sustainable and grow like it has in LoL, DotA, and CS:GO, I'm not so sure with the $40 price tag
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21948 Posts
November 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#1559
On November 07 2015 05:58 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:52 iXphobos wrote:
That muselk guy just said that future heroes and maps will come for free.

Well there you go. $40 for all current and future content aside from cosmetics. You can stop pretending we live in this world where Blizz is going to force you to sell your bed to have the full game now.

Good to know, I was worried after they left the door so wide open during the opening.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 21:02:14
November 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#1560
On November 07 2015 05:51 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 05:48 -Archangel- wrote:
I was thinking this game might become next big competitive FPS but with 40$ price tag not much chance for that.
CS:GO remains king. Also Valve will be happy that TF2 will survive because it had no chance if Overwatch was F2P.

Comparing Overwatch to CS is like comparing StarCraft to Civilization.
Both have a top down view and you click stuff with your mouse, but thats's it.
Overwatch and CS are both First Person Shooters. And that's it.

You keep telling yourself that. It does not make it true.
Sc2 is king of RTS, LoL of MOBA, CS:GO of all FPS.
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