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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 23:35:43
November 06 2015 23:34 GMT
#1581
On November 07 2015 08:12 Pr0wler wrote:
Considering that SW:Battlefront costs 60 euro... 40 euro for Overwatch is pretty damn good.
IMO this model is 100% better than the dodgy F2P bullshit.

"Yeah, but I'm entitled and outraged that someone dares to ask my parent's money for their product. They should give everything away for free, because Valve does it to promote their money printing machine called Steam."
- 90% of reddit right now
Get off my lawn, young punks
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 06 2015 23:50 GMT
#1582
CS isn't even free and it's an extremely barebones client.

I'm not at all upset that a more polished game would cost 40$. I would actually prefer to pay to unlock all the playable content than have it behind microtransactions like HotS. DotA-style F2P model is obviously the most player-favorable but no developer besides Valve could commit to that, and Valve only did because they were basically guaranteed 95%+ of the DotA playerbase plus Steam being a thing.

Blizzard is being reasonable with their model for the game. I think there's actual sustainability in this model, especially if the gameplay is good and varied like it seems to be.
Writer@WriterYamato
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
November 06 2015 23:52 GMT
#1583
I love that they didn't make this f2p. I really hate that people assume that you have to pay for new maps/heroes. Why not just wait for more info?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
November 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#1584
Based on all available information (data mined achievement for owning 30 heroes, the benefits of telling the community straight up "you will never pay for new heroes or maps, only non gameplay elements, and general dodginess in answering the question) it's actually the only reasonable position to hold that Blizzard will try to monetize new heroes. It is ridiculous to suggest that the current 21 hero lineup will not be updated.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 00:23:46
November 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#1585
On November 07 2015 08:52 Weavel wrote:
I love that they didn't make this f2p. I really hate that people assume that you have to pay for new maps/heroes. Why not just wait for more info?

yet u have to keep spending money on micro transactions after initial buy to get access to new champions and future content, thats way worse than f2p and pathetic greed from activision-blizzard, btw f2p games can be done right dota2, path of exile or smite are good example of that
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
November 07 2015 00:14 GMT
#1586
$40 is actually okay to me for this kind of game. There's two real issues:

1. Official sources are incredibly vague on future development of the game. The best case scenario in my mind is another $40 pseudo-expansion pack in a year or two like SC2 games

2. Some people will praise the price for being a barrier to entry for shitters but matchmaking will in fact take a hit when there are not enough players. Consider the problem with Heroes of the Storm matchmaking now diminish the population by a factor of ten and consider that scenario.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#1587
Hariooo dude, I don't think this game will be less popular than HotS "by a factor of ten".
Writer@WriterYamato
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
November 07 2015 00:31 GMT
#1588
On November 07 2015 09:07 hariooo wrote:
Based on all available information (data mined achievement for owning 30 heroes, the benefits of telling the community straight up "you will never pay for new heroes or maps, only non gameplay elements, and general dodginess in answering the question) it's actually the only reasonable position to hold that Blizzard will try to monetize new heroes. It is ridiculous to suggest that the current 21 hero lineup will not be updated.


I'll remind you that a Blizzard employee at Blizzcon apparently said future heroes will be free/included with the cost as well.

The concept of selling a map is silly as well. It really seems to be following the CoD / Battlefront model of cosmetic DLC's + up front purchase.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 07 2015 00:31 GMT
#1589
What's so difficult to understand in "all future heroes and maps will be free"?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 07 2015 00:34 GMT
#1590
rather spend 60 bucks on porn huehuehue
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 07 2015 00:45 GMT
#1591
On November 07 2015 09:31 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:07 hariooo wrote:
Based on all available information (data mined achievement for owning 30 heroes, the benefits of telling the community straight up "you will never pay for new heroes or maps, only non gameplay elements, and general dodginess in answering the question) it's actually the only reasonable position to hold that Blizzard will try to monetize new heroes. It is ridiculous to suggest that the current 21 hero lineup will not be updated.


I'll remind you that a Blizzard employee at Blizzcon apparently said future heroes will be free/included with the cost as well.

The concept of selling a map is silly as well. It really seems to be following the CoD / Battlefront model of cosmetic DLC's + up front purchase.

No, its all part of the plan. You see the government controls Actv/Bliz and the revenue from the additional heroes goes to fund the chemtrails that are dispersing agents into our water supply.

But I've said to much.
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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 07 2015 01:02 GMT
#1592
On November 07 2015 09:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 09:31 Wuster wrote:
On November 07 2015 09:07 hariooo wrote:
Based on all available information (data mined achievement for owning 30 heroes, the benefits of telling the community straight up "you will never pay for new heroes or maps, only non gameplay elements, and general dodginess in answering the question) it's actually the only reasonable position to hold that Blizzard will try to monetize new heroes. It is ridiculous to suggest that the current 21 hero lineup will not be updated.


I'll remind you that a Blizzard employee at Blizzcon apparently said future heroes will be free/included with the cost as well.

The concept of selling a map is silly as well. It really seems to be following the CoD / Battlefront model of cosmetic DLC's + up front purchase.

No, its all part of the plan. You see the government controls Actv/Bliz and the revenue from the additional heroes goes to fund the chemtrails that are dispersing agents into our water supply.

But I've said to much.

Psst. If someone posts this on Reddit the whole internet blows up.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 07 2015 01:10 GMT
#1593
ah yes a bunch of asian grill heroes that dont look asian at all while fulfilling stereotypical asian grill roles
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 07 2015 01:15 GMT
#1594
hahaha. D.Va every RO player just got the shivers when they announced her mecha ult. Good how I hate those Suicide mechs.
Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
November 07 2015 01:32 GMT
#1595
Abilities and overview of the 3 new heroes:

D.Va
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/heroes/dva/
Mei
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/heroes/mei/
Genji
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/heroes/genji/

Pre-purchasing the game gives the 'Noire Widowmaker' skin.

Origin edition gives 5 hero skins (Bastion, Tracer, Soldier 76, Pharah and Reaper). Additionally in-game goodies include:

HoTS: Tracer Hero
WoW: Baby Winston pet
Hearthstone: Cardback
D3: Mercy wings
SC: Character portraits (Bastion, Tracer, Winston, Soldier 76, Reaper & Pharah)

Collectors edition includes Soundtrack, Visual Sourcebook and a Soldier 76 statue.

Source:
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/buy/
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 07 2015 01:47 GMT
#1596
Hm. That Q&A was pretty underwhelming.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 01:59:24
November 07 2015 01:59 GMT
#1597
Any news about new game modes?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
November 07 2015 02:00 GMT
#1598
So, if you purchase the game right now, do you have access to the beta...?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 07 2015 02:03 GMT
#1599
Oh hey, Hakumen-guy is finally revealed. Surprised it took this long considering he's been in every promotional piece ever released for this game.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4214 Posts
November 07 2015 02:14 GMT
#1600
No you don't get access to beta by preordering.

Anyway, I'm disagree with the 40-60 dollar price tag hate. If you guys can find a better supported more interesting game for less, that's fine. But would I rather spend 0-20 dollars on a game like Battle Born, Dirty Bomb, Paladins, etc, these games are probably going to die out 2 years from now, if not far less, or spend 40-60 for a game that's going to have Blizzard support and already has a sizeable following/interest?

I'm going to side with Blizzard over Gearbox, every single time.

"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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