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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:52 Capz wrote: Such a sad developemen off e-sports that is happening today compared to the early SC2 days were passion was the main part, today e-sports is just marketing, Sorry that people have passion for a game you don't. I know its hard to accept, but you will get there. | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:52 Capz wrote: Such a sad developemen off e-sports that is happening today compared to the early SC2 days were passion was the main part, today e-sports is just marketing, more like Blizzard is trying too hard to force HOTS into an eSport when they should really be making it fun. If a game is fun more people will play it and a competitive scene will naturally develop....if you force the issue (i.e. SCII) then it's up to the company to artificially pump money into the scene to keep it on life support and not self-sustaining like DOTA2. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:52 Capz wrote: Such a sad developemen off e-sports that is happening today compared to the early SC2 days were passion was the main part, today e-sports is just marketing, if not for marketing why does blizzcon exist? | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:58 ref4 wrote: more like Blizzard is trying too hard to force HOTS into an eSport when they should really be making it fun. If a game is fun more people will play it and a competitive scene will naturally develop....if you force the issue (i.e. SCII) then it's up to the company to artificially pump money into the scene to keep it on life support and not self-sustaining like DOTA2. I'm pretty sure Blizzard didn't force anything with HotS. Tournaments popped up on their own, I think. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:59 IamPryda wrote: if not for marketing why does blizzcon exist? Shhhhhh they can't know that Passion and making money can go hand in hand. The whole idea of "Work doing something you love and you will never have to work again" is sort of lost on some people. On October 10 2014 05:07 Zealously wrote: I'm pretty sure Blizzard didn't force anything with HotS. Tournaments popped up on their own, I think. And heaven forbid they have a tournament at their own event for their own game. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On October 09 2014 22:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Dude I'm just chatting and sharing some information T_T Wtf like you're actually a person. You're just a machine delivering information, you aren't allowed a personality. /s | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
Here is Fnatic's confirmed lineup for those who don't know | ||
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Yorkie
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"Please note that this will not be our future roster, this is just a one off team for the exhibition tournament. We'll continue to evaluate the competitive scene in Heroes of the Storm as the game progresses through the alpha and beta stage. We are very excited to see the game in action and can't wait for the final release!" Source Fnatic's Announcement | ||
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Capz
98 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:55 Zealously wrote: I agree that the teams attending are mostly there because they're big names (I don't know to what extent, I don't watch HotS), but there is only a tournament because the community that grew around the HotS alpha wanted to be competitive. This is definitely a passion-driven thing at heart. are you trying to be funny? That blizzcon "tournament" is plain marketing. There is no passion driven HOTS community, no one is watching people streaming the game, there is no competitive scene or anything. This event is pure marketing. Inb4 Blizzard are gonna start offering leagues, team houses, salaries, world cups and everything the Riot way to force people start playing it "competitively". | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:39 Capz wrote: are you trying to be funny? That blizzcon "tournament" is plain marketing. There is no passion driven HOTS community, no one is watching people streaming the game, there is no competitive scene or anything. This event is pure marketing. Just because you're ignorant of it, doesn't mean it's not happening. | ||
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Capz
98 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote: Just because you're ignorant of it, doesn't mean it's not happening. everything what Blizzard is doing right now with Hots is reminding me about the early LoL/HoN days. Almost every pro ex-dota player started to play HoN and it was looking like that game was gonna be the "competitive" game and successor of dota. LoL had barely any scene, no one took LoL seriously as a competitive game at that time. So Riot started to market their game as an "e-sport" and forcing event organisers to shut down their HoN-events to make space for their "PROFFESIONAL LEAGUE OF LEGEND PLAYERS"-employees to have an event, and people who known nothing about e-sports and plays their shitty game start to watch it and think its awesome. Its just such a sad development. User was warned for this post | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:39 Capz wrote: are you trying to be funny? That blizzcon "tournament" is plain marketing. There is no passion driven HOTS community, no one is watching people streaming the game, there is no competitive scene or anything. This event is pure marketing. Inb4 Blizzard are gonna start offering leagues, team houses, salaries, world cups and everything the Riot way to force people start playing it "competitively". No, Yes. Yes there is, yes there are, yes there is, yes it is. If there was nothing to cover and no interest, I'd be interested to know how you think non-Blizzard HotS tournaments came to be in the first place, and why a team like Symbiote Gaming can even exist. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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GoShox
United States1843 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:52 Capz wrote: Such a sad developement off e-sports that is happening today compared to the early SC2 days were passion was the main part, today e-sports is just plain marketing, SC2 was pure passion? LOL | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote: Tribalism is tiring and old. Didn't we see this same shit with Hearthstone last year where people claimed it wasn't competitive or some non-sense. Just ask hots pro player Naniwa: I've played Dota 1 lot during my wc3 times and I know the simple game it is in comparison to Starcraft, same with LoL. These games will never get any more respect in my eyes when they never understood the real the competition available in gaming. Or well. LoL players seem to understand now and be crushed by the Koreans and even in a game with such low skillcap. When I see a contest that LCS, The International etc. so I think that in style by winning the lottery. Seems to be very many good guys in dota not deserve any hate. It is not meant to be a personal attack on anyone. But when I hear about people who win thousands of dollars on a U.S. mobatournament and think they are the world's kings, I would just laugh because they do not realize how easily their games are in comparison. However, everyone is of course welcome by me like exactly what game they want whether it's Sims, Dota, WC3, SC2, CS, etc. But trying to compare playing in the Wimbledon tennis with o spin on a yo-yo together is about as I see SC2 vs Moba. There is no real competitive sport in my eyes. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 10 2014 06:07 zeo wrote: Just ask hots pro player Naniwa: Naniwa isn't a HotS pro player, he's playing in an exhibition match at Blizzcon because Fnatic (and possibly Blizzard) recognized that he's someone with a lot of pull. The team he's playing for (Fnatic) isn't, most likely anyway, going to keep him on the roster after Blizzcon. This is a temporary thing. That said, he still looks stupid with that quote behind him. | ||
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