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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 21 2014 18:07 GMT
#1521
I pm'd two admins. People need to stop being under the impression that i can add them instantly.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 21 2014 18:31 GMT
#1522
#BlameSerejai
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
January 21 2014 19:52 GMT
#1523
On January 21 2014 17:06 musai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 16:55 Ethelis wrote:
Leveling up a Warrior for NA guild, i finally started playing again...I heard you guys needed a plate tank? Still not sure if my schedule is super awesome for raiding but once i hit 90 i'll definitely fill at least if i can't guarantee a good schedule and wouldn't mind sticking around as a "sub" raider or whatever if the raid roster is lacking.


Tanks can't be flakey lol, an undergeared casual tank is just wasting everyone's time.


I would either commit myself fully or be there as an "oh shit we need a tank or we can't raid." Yeah man i would definitely not say yes and be hit or miss.
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
January 21 2014 23:55 GMT
#1524
lol apologies, could have sworn TBC was still 40 man, guess i was completely wrong.

but still the archimonde fight was pretty much 1 death = wipe.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21952 Posts
January 22 2014 00:02 GMT
#1525
On January 22 2014 08:55 MaestroSC wrote:
lol apologies, could have sworn TBC was still 40 man, guess i was completely wrong.

but still the archimonde fight was pretty much 1 death = wipe.

It wasnt. Deaths were risky because they could trigger a 2nd and 3e death right away which was a wipe but single deaths were very recoverable.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
January 22 2014 00:33 GMT
#1526
After having endgame FFXIV on farm I am really thinking about filling the extra time I have starting up WoW again to get ready for this new expansion. I quit right after MoP was released and my 4 characters are still sitting at 85. Warlords of Draenor looks very interesting, this is quite tempting~
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
January 22 2014 03:13 GMT
#1527
On January 22 2014 09:02 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 08:55 MaestroSC wrote:
lol apologies, could have sworn TBC was still 40 man, guess i was completely wrong.

but still the archimonde fight was pretty much 1 death = wipe.

It wasnt. Deaths were risky because they could trigger a 2nd and 3e death right away which was a wipe but single deaths were very recoverable.


The good part was that he was easily 20 mannable even for progression so you could sit your retards who couldnt use tears or stood in doomfire.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
January 22 2014 15:44 GMT
#1528
Congratulations and thanks to all who have contributed to the NA guild, as we've hit a bit of a milestone. Our first full guild 10 man SoO was a success, with 4/14 down and some nice loot all around. If you are still looking to raid and haven't gotten a spot or been spoken to by an officer, don't worry! We'll be working on a 2nd group as the pool of reliable players becomes easier to distinguish, and there'll be flex runs as much as possible. Here's to making some 2nd wing progression on Thursday!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 16:43:23
January 22 2014 16:42 GMT
#1529
On January 22 2014 09:33 yokohama wrote:
After having endgame FFXIV on farm I am really thinking about filling the extra time I have starting up WoW again to get ready for this new expansion. I quit right after MoP was released and my 4 characters are still sitting at 85. Warlords of Draenor looks very interesting, this is quite tempting~

I'm in the opposite boat as I'm rather bored with WoW and am getting into ffxiv, but I'm a ways from endgame. I'm curious how you feel about how the good and bad of both games match up against one another.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 22 2014 16:49 GMT
#1530
Fucking people, I swear to god...

Join a flex 2, three healers. One of them goes offline for 25 minutes and we wait for them despite myself and the other healer saying we could two heal it just fine. Healer's Warlock friend continues to tell us that we have to wait.

Healer comes back, asks us why we haven't pulled yet because she told the Warlock to tell the raid leader that we should pull without her. Warlock explains he lied because he didn't think me (540) and the Holy Pally (562) could two heal a fucking Flex 2 group.

I explain to the Warlock that he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he is talking about considering he's 561 ilvl but only pulling 70k DPS on trash. He informs me that it's trash and it doesn't matter, and that he will do better on the boss. If I had a nickel...

He then retorts by telling me that I have no room to talk because I'm in PvP gear (one piece, an offhand) and that I will go OOM fast and get stomped by his Druid buddy. Challenge accepted.

We finally start the pull. Warlock is in the tower group and immediately gets knocked off by standing in the smash and falls to his death. Get's rezzed by his Druid friend and rejoins the fight. Repeat on second tower, where he gets rezzed a second time.

Let's jump to the end, after we wiped before even getting Galakras down.

Warlock pulled 80k DPS. Eighty fucking thousand DPS... from a Warlock in gear capable of pulling 200k+ easily. Somehow he was still #2 DPS. His Druid friend, 20 ilvls higher than me and clearly more skilled because she had no PvP gear, managed to pull about half of my healing.

I suggest replacing both of them, since they were pretty much the reason why we wiped (although the highest DPS being 84k didn't help, either). Raid leader says I should stop being elitist and removes me from the group.

This was a group that had a 540 ilvl requirement to join and more than half of the group was 550+. And it couldn't kill Galakras. What the fucking shit.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21952 Posts
January 22 2014 16:52 GMT
#1531
On January 23 2014 01:49 Serejai wrote:
Fucking people, I swear to god...

Join a flex 2, three healers. One of them goes offline for 25 minutes and we wait for them despite myself and the other healer saying we could two heal it just fine. Healer's Warlock friend continues to tell us that we have to wait.

Healer comes back, asks us why we haven't pulled yet because she told the Warlock to tell the raid leader that we should pull without her. Warlock explains he lied because he didn't think me (540) and the Holy Pally (562) could two heal a fucking Flex 2 group.

I explain to the Warlock that he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he is talking about considering he's 561 ilvl but only pulling 70k DPS on trash. He informs me that it's trash and it doesn't matter, and that he will do better on the boss. If I had a nickel...

He then retorts by telling me that I have no room to talk because I'm in PvP gear (one piece, an offhand) and that I will go OOM fast and get stomped by his Druid buddy. Challenge accepted.

We finally start the pull. Warlock is in the tower group and immediately gets knocked off by standing in the smash and falls to his death. Get's rezzed by his Druid friend and rejoins the fight. Repeat on second tower, where he gets rezzed a second time.

Let's jump to the end, after we wiped before even getting Galakras down.

Warlock pulled 80k DPS. Eighty fucking thousand DPS... from a Warlock in gear capable of pulling 200k+ easily. Somehow he was still #2 DPS. His Druid friend, 20 ilvls higher than me and clearly more skilled because she had no PvP gear, managed to pull about half of my healing.

I suggest replacing both of them, since they were pretty much the reason why we wiped (although the highest DPS being 84k didn't help, either). Raid leader says I should stop being elitist and removes me from the group.

This was a group that had a 540 ilvl requirement to join and more than half of the group was 550+. And it couldn't kill Galakras. What the fucking shit.

Gz, you discovered why raiders no longer raid outside of there own little guild group.
The world of WoW pugs is dark and full of terror.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 22 2014 17:01 GMT
#1532
People are quick to throw the nostalgia/rose-tinted glasses card around when someone else says vanilla or TBC was better... but in terms of community it sure as hell was. People were actually held accountable for things. If you joined a pug and played poorly... you weren't getting into another pug until you improved. Now it's just... ugh. There's no winning.

I would double my subscription to have a non-connected realm. You know... no cross realm zones. No connection to any other server. Just something where I can once again look at the names of people in a group I join and immediately know whether or not I'm going to be wasting my time. Item level is all we really have to judge people on these days and it's so unreliable.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 17:10:58
January 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#1533
On January 23 2014 01:49 Serejai wrote:
Fucking people, I swear to god...

Join a flex 2, three healers. One of them goes offline for 25 minutes and we wait for them despite myself and the other healer saying we could two heal it just fine. Healer's Warlock friend continues to tell us that we have to wait.

Healer comes back, asks us why we haven't pulled yet because she told the Warlock to tell the raid leader that we should pull without her. Warlock explains he lied because he didn't think me (540) and the Holy Pally (562) could two heal a fucking Flex 2 group.

I explain to the Warlock that he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he is talking about considering he's 561 ilvl but only pulling 70k DPS on trash. He informs me that it's trash and it doesn't matter, and that he will do better on the boss. If I had a nickel...

He then retorts by telling me that I have no room to talk because I'm in PvP gear (one piece, an offhand) and that I will go OOM fast and get stomped by his Druid buddy. Challenge accepted.

We finally start the pull. Warlock is in the tower group and immediately gets knocked off by standing in the smash and falls to his death. Get's rezzed by his Druid friend and rejoins the fight. Repeat on second tower, where he gets rezzed a second time.

Let's jump to the end, after we wiped before even getting Galakras down.

Warlock pulled 80k DPS. Eighty fucking thousand DPS... from a Warlock in gear capable of pulling 200k+ easily. Somehow he was still #2 DPS. His Druid friend, 20 ilvls higher than me and clearly more skilled because she had no PvP gear, managed to pull about half of my healing.

I suggest replacing both of them, since they were pretty much the reason why we wiped (although the highest DPS being 84k didn't help, either). Raid leader says I should stop being elitist and removes me from the group.

This was a group that had a 540 ilvl requirement to join and more than half of the group was 550+. And it couldn't kill Galakras. What the fucking shit.


Ah the old "hes compitent and therefore an elitist prick" lmao... this is why I cant raid anymore.

If you call out bads you get called an elitist prick and voted out. If you dont point out bads you dont kill anything.

have gotten back into WoW recently, but only because of Arenas/PvP which are the only thing i find enjoyable in WoW anymore, since Resilience there has been little to no reason to raid for me personally, and now with PvP power, there is 0 motivation for me to raid except for Transmog haha
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
January 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#1534
Serejai on the flip side, if you are invited into an oqueue flex and the dps is all sub-100k, rather than seeing that as some type of a challenge you should just leave and find a less terrible group lol

Having to wait for groups over and over is a huge pain, though.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#1535
Yeah never ever ever ever pug. Ever. LFR is barely managable, anything else is a giant waste of time.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Rangoric
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
January 22 2014 17:22 GMT
#1536
Geez, last time we did flex 2 I did 32k on Galakras overall, but 68k on the boss. But that's more with still learning the fights.

At 561 I'd hope I'd be able to do better than 80k. Hell I should be able to do 25%-50% better easily once I'm more use to the spec/fights. And play better, of course

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Bjat93ARbxDvcNTk#fight=7&type=damage&source=6&start=2468750&end=2571730


sjon03
Profile Joined July 2009
United States231 Posts
January 22 2014 17:35 GMT
#1537
Sadly, I look forward to having an ilvl high enough to participate in such oqueue failures. Hopefully there are successful groups as well.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
January 22 2014 17:40 GMT
#1538
There are, you just have to develop a nose for this sort of thing. Chatting up a raid before you get started is one way, as is paying attention to how folks deal with trash. I must admit, though, that I have it pretty easy in this regard as a tank; I can wash my hands of bad raids far faster than my DPS counterparts
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 22 2014 17:40 GMT
#1539
Round two!

Join a new Flex group; this time Flex 3.

Starts off terrible. A warlock in the raid keeps pulling EVERYTHING with his pet. He's a guildie of the raid leader. After we finally make it to Malk the raid leader asks who kept pulling things and his guildie warlock immediately blames the other innocent warlock in our group. Leader kicks the innocent warlock. A mage speaks up and says the wrong warlock was kicked; he gets kicked too.

Whatever. We pull Malk. There are four fucking mages in the group. Two puddles spawn near me, so I stand in one. Nobody stands in the other, despite there being three mages easily within blink range. We take raid damage and a Pally healer calls me out in chat with something to the extent of "druid... get puddles". Apparently I'm supposed to split myself in two or something.

A few sets of puddles later the closest one to me is 20 yards away. I have no possible way to make it there in time, and there are two mages within five yards of it. What could possibly go wrong? Boom. Raid damage, two people die. We finish the boss off and the Pally immediately calls me out again for not standing in puddles, claiming he saw me NEVER stand in a puddle and suggesting that I be kicked.

There's this nifty feature in combat logging these days, where you can go back and see a top down replay of exactly where everyone was standing during the fight. I informed the pally that he could check out the combat replay of the pull and see that I stood in more puddles than anyone else and never missed one during the entire fight. He /spit on me but kept his mouth shut and we continued on to spoils.

While waiting to pull the warlock sends me a whisper. He informs me that he's gonna have me kicked if I don't "check myself at the door". I inform him that I said nothing until his Pally guildie wrongfully accused me of making mistakes during the last boss and that even my comments then were nothing more than civil remarks about how he could check the combat replay to see that he was wrong.

Warlock responds in some broken english that I could barely make out; I'm assuming the guy is either twelve or mentally disabled.

[11:28:28] [W From] [90:Dranged-Sto:2]: he sed about mages not u big yo, u should mind ur own bizz bizz fegit fo i kick u

I'm not really sure what the fuck he was talking about considering the Pally not only said "druid" but also said "serejai" multiple times.

Fuck this shit. I opened all the crates I could on Spoils and left the group.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 22 2014 17:42 GMT
#1540
Again, stay the fuck out of pugs. It's been like that since WotlK.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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