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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 28 2014 17:51 GMT
#5621
Im not the feeling the shard shortage either, at least not yet I have more than hundred of them and im not a person who ran insane amount of heroics and i dont really have twinks. They were down to like 5g and now they are 8g. Dust has gone down from 20g to 8g though, although i dont understand why there was a shortage anyway, not a single enchant uses dust and imho the enchanting hut is one of the worse you can put in your garrison.
Alchemy on the other hand is totally screwed. At least for no, let's see if the demand for catalysts increases when the raids come out.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 28 2014 17:57 GMT
#5622
Enchanting hut is great for levelling, but eh i agree it's a bit underwhelming at 100
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 18:00:05
November 28 2014 17:57 GMT
#5623
JC makes no sense to me at all. I get a metric fuckton of the one gem in the expansion, but to make gems for my daily I need ore and HERBS. What the fuck? Professions are so dumb. Im sitting on like 500 ore that as far as I can tell, has no purpose after you set up work orders with it. The fact that you can't prospect it for something useful is mind boggling. Also, what is up with BS? I don't have BS as a prof, so I don't expect to be able to instantly make epics. But the ingot generation rate sucks dick. And what's with the blues? Why would I want to waste any mats making blues? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I set up my garrison very randomly and I assume very badly to begin with, but I would expect to still be able to do SOMETHING with it.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 28 2014 18:00 GMT
#5624
It's every profession; they are all behind daily cooldown walls now, and aside from herbs there's no depth. I guess there's a tad with meats/fish, but still nowhere near as deep as the MoP cooking/fishing system.

Basically they just gutted all professions across the board and make them "easier" and aimed at non-raiders. Professions are no longer an endgame thing, but rather a side feature like pet battles.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 28 2014 18:04 GMT
#5625
Hm I never thought the professions were important for anything other than getting that one raiding stat.
Off-season = best season
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 28 2014 18:07 GMT
#5626
They've always been economic endgame, and I guess what I would consider an indirect endgame for big raiding guilds, as professions are generally what finance the big guilds and allow them to buy up things like BMAH gear. They were also somewhat endgame for the leveling process, as you could generally hit max level and then utilize your profession in various ways (crafting, gold making). Now there's literally zero reason to actually level up your professions, and even when you hit 100 they don't provide any real benefit at all.

For a raider they are essentially useless now.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#5627
I mean i guess they are a nice side thing where you can craft entry level boe gear and sometimes someone gearing up or simply running LFR will give you a bunch of money, but eh yeah. Definitely preferred the older system, except maybe levelling enchanting which always felt like a huge investment
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 28 2014 18:20 GMT
#5628
On November 29 2014 03:07 Serejai wrote:
They've always been economic endgame, and I guess what I would consider an indirect endgame for big raiding guilds, as professions are generally what finance the big guilds and allow them to buy up things like BMAH gear. They were also somewhat endgame for the leveling process, as you could generally hit max level and then utilize your profession in various ways (crafting, gold making). Now there's literally zero reason to actually level up your professions, and even when you hit 100 they don't provide any real benefit at all.

For a raider they are essentially useless now.

Hm I just leveled mine to max level, got the raiding boost then never did anything with them ever again.
Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 28 2014 18:26 GMT
#5629
Have to agree with Serejai here for once. There may not be a shard shortage now due to how many enchanters have banked up until now, but with every blue now dropping dust then it wont be long before there is a shortage of that. The simple answer like he said was to just make us able to shatter crystals into dust and there you go. Or make more green items drop in instances/world to help us get access to dust.

Oh well like he said, professions just fucked blizzard really didn't think it through
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 28 2014 18:28 GMT
#5630
Why the fuck would you shatter crystals into dust to use dust to craft crystals O.O
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 28 2014 18:31 GMT
#5631
can I play this game yet or are the server ques still mental.

my realm got combined with another two so hopefully will be some people to play with.
Zerg for Life
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 28 2014 18:33 GMT
#5632
Haven't gotten a single queue in over 10 days on a medium size server
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 28 2014 19:12 GMT
#5633
He means the yellow shard things no? Or if he means the epic crystals than maybe that isn't so helpful yet. But i thought he meant the shit you get from disenchanting blues Luminous Shards? We should be able to crack those into Draenic Dust
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 28 2014 19:13 GMT
#5634
I think the new proffession system is fine as previously it was about spending a large amount of time and money for like some extra sockets or bonusses, there was also an almost objectively best way for raiders so it left you with very little choice in your proffessions.
WriterXiao8~~
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 19:37:48
November 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#5635
On November 29 2014 03:07 Serejai wrote:
They've always been economic endgame, and I guess what I would consider an indirect endgame for big raiding guilds, as professions are generally what finance the big guilds and allow them to buy up things like BMAH gear. They were also somewhat endgame for the leveling process, as you could generally hit max level and then utilize your profession in various ways (crafting, gold making). Now there's literally zero reason to actually level up your professions, and even when you hit 100 they don't provide any real benefit at all.

For a raider they are essentially useless now.


And in Mists, the only thing I used Blacksmithing for was my socket bonuses. So much fun.

There's bound to be raid quality gear recipes that come out of the raid tiers, that will keep the professions relevant and create the divide that always comes between raiders' professions and non-raiders.

As far as Blacksmithing goes, there's always a market for lower level gear for transmog or alts. I can do as much or as little with that demand as I want.

Those reforged BC weapon recipes from the Isle of Thunder are going to remain in demand for a long time to come.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#5636
On November 29 2014 04:12 Pandemona wrote:
He means the yellow shard things no? Or if he means the epic crystals than maybe that isn't so helpful yet. But i thought he meant the shit you get from disenchanting blues Luminous Shards? We should be able to crack those into Draenic Dust


Ya but you said shatter crystals (which normally goes epic crystal>blue shard) and i was like wut
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 28 2014 19:42 GMT
#5637
On November 29 2014 04:33 Teoita wrote:
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On November 29 2014 04:12 Pandemona wrote:
He means the yellow shard things no? Or if he means the epic crystals than maybe that isn't so helpful yet. But i thought he meant the shit you get from disenchanting blues Luminous Shards? We should be able to crack those into Draenic Dust


Ya but you said shatter crystals (which normally goes epic crystal>blue shard) and i was like wut


Oh haha yeah i didn't mean that xD
I have like 50 of the blue shards sitting in my regent bank, wish i could put them into dust
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Yomi.Doom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
November 28 2014 20:32 GMT
#5638
Missions are mad good right now. I've gotten a mission for 645 epic gear everyday for the past 4 days. Unfortunately, the secondary stat rolls on all of those pieces are garbage.
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
November 28 2014 21:07 GMT
#5639
I still don't understand why you think there will be a shortage of luminous shards. There is literally no demand for them. You can enchant a full set of gear with 4 of them. That is their only use.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 28 2014 21:33 GMT
#5640
I have to tell this.

I'm currently trying to solo Heart of Fear 10.
The real version is that my Pet Crab is solo'ing Imperial Vizier Zor'lock.

I've been Mindocntrolled since he reached 50% on the last platform, but the mind control is spamming mend pet, and my pet is slowly killing him 1% every minute.

It's hilarious. Currently the boss is in enrage mode, singing his thing but it doesn't do any damage lol. I'm hitting and healing my pet agaisnt my will, my pet is killing the boss, the boss is doing nothing. He's at 30% while I write this.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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