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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 15 2014 09:19 GMT
#3621
I feel strange playing the pre patch. Arms tho, what did they do!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2014 09:20 GMT
#3622
Yeah that is not good. Fury though is pretty sick on metres at level 90
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 09:24:33
October 15 2014 09:21 GMT
#3623
Damn thank god then I decided to take a look first.

And the connected realms they now have behave completely like 1 realm right?

My old server has a combined population with its connected realms of 4200 on horde side. Maybe it will rise a little with WoD. Might this be enough if one plays casually and wants to do the occasional raid?

Or do you guys recommend to only play on the 10k+ realms if one wants to do any raiding?
Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 09:38:39
October 15 2014 09:28 GMT
#3624
4200 players is a lot if they all can play on the same "day". If you divide it by 20 for mythic raids that is potentially 210 runs. However you have lots of other things to add in like how many of those players are maxed level, how many are interested in PvE how many want to raid next expansion etc.

To me that seems enough of a number for at least 10 guilds on horde side to try and raid at a semi high level though.

However playing on a more populated realm you get more chances to get into a guild at your level due to more players etc. You also have the chance to pug more on the same server etc. All comes down to preference, i like Twisting Nether and how stupidly busy it can get. I will probably rage post in here during leveling in WoD due to how packed it is but i still like it due to sheer opportunities.
I'm on stormscale with my main at the moment though but i will be bringing that back eventually.


MMO released what blizzard released earlier in graph form of subscribers currently and in the past.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 15 2014 09:39 GMT
#3625
Are they planning on putting your rerolls wandering into your garrison ? That would be fun.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2014 09:44 GMT
#3626
4200 is the number of accounts with a 90 character that killed a boss in tier 16 or a 90 character that is in guild that killed a boss in tier 16. So not necessarily all active.

But yeah I guess it might be enough. Problem is if I started on a new server I have no gold etc. there, that might be annoying.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2014 09:50 GMT
#3627
On October 15 2014 18:28 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]

Might this be skewed by Chinese numbers and the drop on NA/EU servers is actually steeper? Because I feel it should be.
Off-season = best season
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2014 09:55 GMT
#3628
I have noticed in the as you can see on the graph from the time of October 2013 when Method got there first world kill on Garrosh hc. From then onwards Twisting Nether realm never had a queue to log in, always used to be a queue to log in on raid reset day sometimes on a thursday as well, but never seen a queue last 12 months. Today if i see a queue you will know if player base is back i guess.

Be interesting anyway, i hope more people come back or at least the numbers just stabilize. As you can see from 12million high in 2011 to a 7.4million in 2014 is a big crash. Still if you x it by the subscription price you can understand why it is still going =P
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
October 15 2014 09:56 GMT
#3629
On October 15 2014 18:50 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 18:28 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]

Might this be skewed by Chinese numbers and the drop on NA/EU servers is actually steeper? Because I feel it should be.

Every time a big drop was reported it was stated as being mostly Asia, now ofc no one has the numbers by server except for Blizzard and they dont need to release such details but if we take their word for it then the West has seen a relatively minor drop overall.
The returning numbers of this last quarter tho are probably mostly in the west as their seems to be a decent movement of old players coming back in preparation for WoD.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2014 10:01 GMT
#3630
Honestly I dont think the numbers are low at all, I am surprised they are so high. I have a feeling they would still make a good profit if it was 20% of that.

I am not sure if Chinese players are included in this though or if those numbers come on top of that. Because the Chinse pay hourly and have no monthly subsciptions.
Off-season = best season
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 15 2014 10:07 GMT
#3631
On October 15 2014 19:01 Redox wrote:
Honestly I dont think the numbers are low at all, I am surprised they are so high. I have a feeling they would still make a good profit if it was 20% of that.

I am not sure if Chinese players are included in this though or if those numbers come on top of that. Because the Chinse pay hourly and have no monthly subsciptions.


It's still 7millions
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 11:01:22
October 15 2014 11:00 GMT
#3632
Are there any TL groups running SoO (or at least Garrosh, for the heirlooms)? I'm a 547 (if I remember correctly) prot warrior with little experience (think I did Garrosh a grand total of 1 time) and who hasn't played much lately (but looking to get back into it with WoD), but I always thought of myself as somebody who learns and adapts fast.

edit: I'm EU Horde, by the way.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
October 15 2014 11:16 GMT
#3633
On October 15 2014 19:01 Redox wrote:
Honestly I dont think the numbers are low at all, I am surprised they are so high. I have a feeling they would still make a good profit if it was 20% of that.

I am not sure if Chinese players are included in this though or if those numbers come on top of that. Because the Chinse pay hourly and have no monthly subsciptions.

It includes Chinese, They are counted if they played in the last X days, If you want it more precise your going to have to do some googling because I don't know off the top of my head what the cut of was. Could be a month could be different.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 15 2014 11:26 GMT
#3634
On October 15 2014 18:20 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah that is not good. Fury though is pretty sick on metres at level 90


Yep, i saw. Insta change to fury.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2014 11:27 GMT
#3635
On October 15 2014 20:26 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 18:20 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah that is not good. Fury though is pretty sick on metres at level 90


Yep, i saw. Insta change to fury.


Lool i always prefered fury since you could 2x 2handers, so many transmogs to go for etc. Never understood why people would arms unless they were PvPers.
Fury rotation for WoD has become a bit silly though it's like 3 buttons TT
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
October 15 2014 11:35 GMT
#3636
On October 15 2014 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 20:26 Grettin wrote:
On October 15 2014 18:20 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah that is not good. Fury though is pretty sick on metres at level 90


Yep, i saw. Insta change to fury.


Lool i always prefered fury since you could 2x 2handers, so many transmogs to go for etc. Never understood why people would arms unless they were PvPers.
Fury rotation for WoD has become a bit silly though it's like 3 buttons TT

Still better then Arms :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 15 2014 11:36 GMT
#3637
Is it? Hahah wow, Arms really get rekt then ouch xD
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
October 15 2014 11:47 GMT
#3638
So basically warriors are DK's now
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 15 2014 12:42 GMT
#3639
Arms is now something like:

Apply Rend
Press MS on CD
Colossus Smash when at full Rage and spam Whilrwind to fill.

That's literally it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 15 2014 12:44 GMT
#3640
still rolling arms atm, seems decent enough.
dont really care about dps or anything since its end of expansion though.
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