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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 14:50:21
June 16 2014 14:50 GMT
#1981
On June 16 2014 23:42 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 23:26 Teoita wrote:
On June 16 2014 22:58 Serejai wrote:
On June 16 2014 22:55 Teoita wrote:
You can't really solo Dreamwalker in ICC. Also i'm not sure about Gunship and Sindragosa, my guess is yes to both tho. FL in hard mode can also be a bit stupid.


Dreamwalker has been soloable for a while now by quite a few classes. A quick Youtube search shows Death Knights, Hunters, and Warriors. Gunship has been soloable since WoTLK was the current expansion by tank classes. Sindragosa, to my knowledge, is soloable by a fair amount of classes but wasn't by a Druid when I last tried (over a year ago). I would say it more than likely is now due to ilvl inflation.


How would you solo Dreamwalker without healing spells? Too busy right now to youtube myself


Well, the key phrase in my post would be "quite a few classes" but it looks like the Warrior video I saw on Youtube was fake (private server). So that would leave... Druids, Death Knights, Paladins, Shamans, Mages, Priests, Hunters, and Monks are able to solo Dreamwalker.

Then again, as someone else pointed out, Death Knights are broken as shit when it comes to soloing things but Druids can be a very close second at times. For example, Death Knights can solo Dark Animus last patch but Druids can solo Ji-Kun this patch. Then there are rare instances where Druids are ahead - I was able to solo 10N Alysrazor DURING THE FIRELANDS PATCH. Warlocks have, on occasion, been at the front for certain bosses as well.

In general though if you want to solo old content you should probably just level a DK alt. They don't even need good gear; one week to go from 55 to LFR gear and you're ready to solo things that your 570 ilvl main can't even do.


Yeah that's kinf of true. I rerolled a DK to level to 60 in order to craft the ragnaros weapon and i needed to get the quest of dark iron. Tried it solo on level 60 and i killed everything (boss included) with rolling my head on the keyboard (litteraly i was just doing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 cause i don't know how it's played and i don't care about this toon).

I got the dark iron quest no problem (solo BRD). Getting some in MC was however quite tricky
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 16 2014 14:55 GMT
#1982
On youtube it looks like a Mage does it with a combination of the legendary cloak for healers (proc converts overhealing into healing on nearby allies) and a tank trinket from SoO (% of damage becomes self healing).
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22566 Posts
June 16 2014 15:18 GMT
#1983
On June 16 2014 23:48 Teoita wrote:
Well yeah but i had no idea about the legendary healer cloak...tbh fuck that im not changing my legendary just to solo a boss

You can buy multiple cloaks nowadays so it just costs a bit of gold.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
June 16 2014 15:48 GMT
#1984
The underlying concept here is that a lot of solo boss kills involve thinking outside the box if you're not a Death Knight. For example Druids were able to solo Alysrazor during the Firelands patch because our rejuv glyph was really overpowered and whenever we were under 35%(?) it would automatically refresh. Timing this with cooldowns would result in us being able to live through the transition phase. I believe Warlocks were the first class to solo The Lurker Below and they had to do it with "creative use of gameplay mechanics" as well.

Death Knights, on the other hand, just slam their faces into the keyboard and eventually they will kill what they are fighting.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1985
On June 16 2014 17:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
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On June 15 2014 19:03 Arnstein wrote:
Any alliance EU people wanna play old raids with me? I just want to experience them, so I don't need heroic. These are the ones I'm missing:
Trial of the Crusader
Icecrown Citadel
Baradin Hold
Blackwing Descent
Bastion of Twilight
Throne of the Four Winds
Firelands


I can play in about 4-5 hours.


Got a Chamy elem or heal if you want. ilevel something... 450 ? 465 ? along those lines. Not on the TL guild but we can group crossy Server => ChamyNova-Rashgarroth (we can group even if i'm on a French server)

We tried with 2horde friends around 495ilvel to do blackwing descent... We did the worm thingy (never did that raid) and the two giants. But there's the 3rd boss of just 2shot us.

For ICC it's tricky but we did it (3 persons). I just had to log a level 82 priest for the dragon that you must heal. Not really difficult. I don't know the english name of the others

Also i don't see how it's possible to solo ICC because of the drak you need to heal. Some class can't do it right ?


Yes! I can add you to my friends list! What's your nick+number?
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
June 16 2014 16:46 GMT
#1986
Engineers can skip Valithria


Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 16 2014 17:12 GMT
#1987
I'm about to log on, in case anyone's interested! Any cata except Deathwing is what I'm missing!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 16 2014 17:15 GMT
#1988
I think Panda added me to the EU list Arnstein

FFW #2606

Got a sesame 90 mage on horde (thx collector Wod) and my shaman 90 on alliance.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 16 2014 19:39 GMT
#1989
On June 16 2014 22:52 Serejai wrote:
For what it's worth I went back and looked at my list of solo kill bosses. These are all as Druid and not all classes can do it, but I know Death Knights can solo even more than a Druid and I think Pally/Warrior can do the majority of these as well.

List of bosses that are soloable (as a Druid on 10N):

Everything in BWD except for Maloriak and Nefarian
Everything in BoT except for Sinestra
Both bosses in ToTFW are soloable
Everything in Firelands except Ragnaros
First four bosses in Dragonsoul (probably more but that's where I stopped)

And then for previous expansions every single raid boss is soloable (most of them on heroic and/or 25m as well).

Seems like Maloriak would be easily soloable, thats weird to me lol. I didnt think Magmaw/Omnotron would be hard, and Atramedes is obviously easy.
I figured Chimaeron with Break/double hit would cause more trouble but I guess you can dodge so maybe not.
I didnt think Nefarian would be doable since him and Onyxia get a pretty giant buff when they're next to each other and hell that was strong enough to kill any tank in like 1-2 hits @ 85 lol
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
June 16 2014 19:46 GMT
#1990
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.
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Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
June 16 2014 19:58 GMT
#1991
So I know that we just went over this (sorry for being annoying ^^), but on my Bnet account it says that I can upgrade to MoP for 19.99, or buy MoP/WoD for 59.99. The last expansion that I bought was WotLK, so if I upgrade to MoP for 19.99 do I need to buy Cata as well?

Sorry for being thick about this.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 16 2014 20:09 GMT
#1992
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 16 2014 20:17 GMT
#1993
On June 17 2014 04:58 Headshot wrote:
So I know that we just went over this (sorry for being annoying ^^), but on my Bnet account it says that I can upgrade to MoP for 19.99, or buy MoP/WoD for 59.99. The last expansion that I bought was WotLK, so if I upgrade to MoP for 19.99 do I need to buy Cata as well?

Sorry for being thick about this.


I think it's automatically upgraded to Cata now.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 16 2014 20:35 GMT
#1994
On June 17 2014 04:58 Headshot wrote:
So I know that we just went over this (sorry for being annoying ^^), but on my Bnet account it says that I can upgrade to MoP for 19.99, or buy MoP/WoD for 59.99. The last expansion that I bought was WotLK, so if I upgrade to MoP for 19.99 do I need to buy Cata as well?

Sorry for being thick about this.

Any "Vanilla" WoW subscription now has access to BC/WotLK/Cata automatically. You will never need to buy Cata from now on.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
June 16 2014 20:37 GMT
#1995
Ah, thank you.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
June 16 2014 20:41 GMT
#1996
On June 17 2014 05:09 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?


I don't know... but it doesn't reset. You pretty much just sit there and beat on each other until one of you dies.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany986 Posts
June 16 2014 21:39 GMT
#1997
On June 17 2014 05:41 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 05:09 arb wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?


I don't know... but it doesn't reset. You pretty much just sit there and beat on each other until one of you dies.


He does mangle, but the damage is negligible. I can solo every boss in BWD except Chimaeron with my monk tank, I just lack some dmg without any vengeance.

I think all tank classes can do almost every old boss solo, it's not just because DKs are broken, although they do have the best set of skills to do it.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 21:44:44
June 16 2014 21:43 GMT
#1998
On June 17 2014 06:39 nimbim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 05:41 Serejai wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:09 arb wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?


I don't know... but it doesn't reset. You pretty much just sit there and beat on each other until one of you dies.


He does mangle, but the damage is negligible. I can solo every boss in BWD except Chimaeron with my monk tank, I just lack some dmg without any vengeance.

I think all tank classes can do almost every old boss solo, it's not just because DKs are broken, although they do have the best set of skills to do it.


You can solo all that? Let's play this week

Me and FFW played with 6 other guys. One guy insisted that we should do Firelands on 25HC, which failed horribly. I just want to experience the raids, so it was too much trouble for me.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 08:28:05
June 17 2014 08:23 GMT
#1999
On June 17 2014 05:41 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 05:09 arb wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?


I don't know... but it doesn't reset. You pretty much just sit there and beat on each other until one of you dies.


Basicly Highlander : "There can be only one".

On June 17 2014 06:43 Arnstein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 06:39 nimbim wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:41 Serejai wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:09 arb wrote:
On June 17 2014 04:46 Serejai wrote:
As far as I'm aware only DKs can solo Maloriak. DKs can also solo Nefarian, Sinestra, Ragnaros, and all of Dragon Soul if I'm not mistaken... which I guess is pretty much everything.

Does Magmaw still mangle if theres just 1 person? Or does it not cause a reset cause he's technically attacking you i guess?


I don't know... but it doesn't reset. You pretty much just sit there and beat on each other until one of you dies.


He does mangle, but the damage is negligible. I can solo every boss in BWD except Chimaeron with my monk tank, I just lack some dmg without any vengeance.

I think all tank classes can do almost every old boss solo, it's not just because DKs are broken, although they do have the best set of skills to do it.


You can solo all that? Let's play this week

Me and FFW played with 6 other guys. One guy insisted that we should do Firelands on 25HC, which failed horribly. I just want to experience the raids, so it was too much trouble for me.


Well.. i don't know if you can call that : "play". 'cause i never put a feet in firelands and i was just trying to catch up the group. I changed my spec to heal and they pull, basicly i got no mana from the start to the spider boss (i hate spiders btw) and guys were like : "Yeah you go up, when this does that, the other down) and i was like : "what the fuck are they talking about" lol.

So i left to watch GoT. I'm a really casual player and a french one so i need slow explanation and i need to ask question because there's lot of places/items etc.. that i don't know the english name. Also i never done a raid at "around my level" except for AQ20 in vanilla one time :p i'm the biggest noob around there.

But it was kind of fun. I saw the "sand vial" for first time and jumped on a dragon's back :p
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buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
June 17 2014 09:18 GMT
#2000
How much gear does a DK need in order to solo cata / wotlk dungeons? I'm interesting in soloing that kind of stuff and to start playing again. Any resources I should look into or people here that can explain some things to me?
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