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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 07 2013 07:45 GMT
#101
Where is frequency when we need him , that unforgiving brute of an NE player was very active with the former thread and with it's community XD
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 14:26:31
October 07 2013 14:12 GMT
#102
I just tried playing on YY. The website and client are both in Chinese so I had to do a bit of guessing, but it wasn't very hard to set up.

I then looked for a game and found it pretty quickly. There is no delay at all, but I do get lag spikes every few seconds. Probably because of the location of the servers. I might play on it, I don't know. When you find a game through YY, it automatically launches your game in Chinese and goes to LAN and enters your game, and everything sets itself up automatically.

The game is in Chinese after that, so it's a good thing I know most things inside and out or I'd be confused. A disadvantage is I have no clue what race my opponent is, since it's written in Chinese. I'm sure that once you get used to all that, it's pretty damn good as there really is no delay and the community is huge.

I have lag spikes as I said, but they're not really bothersome. More of an annoyance really. Maybe I'll play some more this week.
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3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
October 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#103
I played on Azeroth from europe and got about 0,75sec lag which is ok.

will play in 3 hours

maybe we should meet in a specific channel like "team liquid"
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 07 2013 19:36 GMT
#104
Great! I'll be on in a couple of hours. I can't host though. I don't really know how to go about hosting (that was always slightly annoying) and since I'm playing on a shaky Wi-Fi shared by up to four people, I don't think it'd be ideal.

We might have to figure something out. I'll be on the channel "TeamLiquid"!

Anyone else interested in meeting up on BNet in a couple of hours, go for it, maybe we'll have more people.
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acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
October 08 2013 01:29 GMT
#105
could probably add ffareplays.com for ffa replays if anyone is interested
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
October 08 2013 14:14 GMT
#106
ill very likely play today in mb 7 hours or so. will go on channel "teamliquid"
i will also check out wcarena and co in the next days.
ill maybe try becoming decent with UD or revive my Human skills.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 08 2013 17:02 GMT
#107
Well, look who's getting back into the game!

I might be on today, I'm not sure. If I am I'll be on the TeamLiquid channel too. Would be nice to get more people coming, since we're actually starting to play

Long live WC3!
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3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 19:59:27
October 08 2013 19:55 GMT
#108
yeah ill play some games everyday, but not too much cause I also have to train Fifa14, play Gothic2 and do some real life things too ^^

id really like to play more Hu mirrors with you, so would be cool if we found a lagfree platform!


theres a 3v3 random tourney in 90 min . probably will only need 3 or 4 wins to qualify for KOstages.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 08 2013 23:11 GMT
#109
I'll probably simply download GArena and we'll play on there since my hosting is terrible.

I won't be playing tonight though, I have plans made. Besides, I suspect that we are very likely to meet hackers in tournaments, as sad as it is to admit.

So, 3.14 and I have started really playing together, more people should do the same! Join us! WC3 Resurrection!
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 09 2013 04:26 GMT
#110
I think I will play night elf, what ladder should I play and where can I find good vods/reps?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 09 2013 04:26 GMT
#111
Just read the OP, there's a lot of info in there.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
October 09 2013 14:10 GMT
#112
There should be a featured stream section for WC3!
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 09 2013 15:34 GMT
#113
That'd be really cool, although I'm afraid it's very unlikely to ever happen.

While WC3 does have some viewers from time to time on Twitch, they rarely exceed the thousand. Granted, having it on TL would boost it a bit, but I still don't think it'd become major. It is a ten year old game after all.

What it would take is an effort from the community, this one!

And so: rise up! WC3 will prevail!
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jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
October 09 2013 16:23 GMT
#114
I'm an older fellow that skipped past BW/WC3 and started playing games again with SC2. I have been watching WC3 4v4 videos on Youtube for the last year or two. IMO, though I have never played the game, and realize that the 1v1 meta is fairly rigid, I nevertheless feel that its design is superior in many ways to SC2, and features many things that I believe could have prolonged SC2's relevance:

1. more durable units means more opportunities for harass, skirmishes, and longer battles (no spending 15 mins to max an army that will die to AOE in 6 seconds)
2. racial variety - 4 races instead of 3, and each has nearly double the units of SC's races; plus the leveling system and items provide more variety as the game progresses.
3. more interaction w/ the environment: shops, day/night, weather, trees, etc makes the maps feel more immersive
4. the emphasis on micro over macro is more interesting for viewers. Once you've watched a hundred SC2 games the opening 5-10 minutes of macro can be pretty dull.
Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
October 09 2013 16:36 GMT
#115
On October 10 2013 00:34 Spaylz wrote:
That'd be really cool, although I'm afraid it's very unlikely to ever happen.

While WC3 does have some viewers from time to time on Twitch, they rarely exceed the thousand. Granted, having it on TL would boost it a bit, but I still don't think it'd become major. It is a ten year old game after all.

What it would take is an effort from the community, this one!

And so: rise up! WC3 will prevail!


Well, to be fair BW was doing pretty well 10 years after its release, leagues like SOSPA still exists, so...you never know :p

I've been playing straight onto ladder, but...my macro has been seriously awful (I blame Dota 2). I guess I'll need some more warmup games to get back into it. Having a great time tho, even met a few friendly players.
<3 SC2 <3<3 Dota 2. Steam ID: HellS
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-09 16:48:37
October 09 2013 16:41 GMT
#116
I wouldn't describe the 1v1 meta as rigid. As it is the case for any other RTS game, some strategies shine more than others and thus are seen more often. This is especially true for Orcs, who had very few options other than the classic Grunts/Raiders/SW.

However, as the players improved, more strategies came to light and I honestly believe that WC3 never reached its full potential as far as strategies are concerned. I'm fairly convinced there was/is a lot left to discover. The feeling of rigidity in the 1v1 meta probably comes from the lack of rotation in the map pool. Some maps have been around since RoC (e.g Lost Temple) and are still played today (in ladder at least). There was very little map rotation in WC3 and while the custom game community was huge, not many 1v1/2v2 maps were created. There were a few, the best example being Secret Valley, which I believe was made by the WC3L staff.

In any case, I firmly believe that WC3 would have reached even more depth with a permanently rotating map pool, as some maps really favor some strategic choices over others and make certain units or Heroes more or less viable depending on the match-up and so forth. Granted, making a balanced map for WC3 is pretty hard, but not impossible. I simply think e-sport was in its infancy almost everywhere at that point, and WC3 could never be fully exploited because of that.

@Ydriel, yep, that's true. And BW is actually a perfect example, as its success and survivability to this day are pretty much a direct result of both an excellent game and a bulletproof infrastructure. South Korea was ahead of its time in e-sports and BW was huge only in that country, mostly because KeSPA did a very good job of managing the game. I may be biased, but I can only imagine that with an infrastructure at least somewhat close to KeSPA, WC3 would have reached even higher heights, especially given its much more important popularity in all the western countries and in China.
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Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
October 09 2013 22:01 GMT
#117
I found the CDkey w00t, installed it. It looks like only 1 of my accounts works, dunno why O_o..---> S4. <--- (azeroth). I took this name before [A] S4, so he copied me. rrrr
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 10 2013 09:58 GMT
#118
The last time I played was in 2008, with an account with over 1.6k wins and a ton of icons. That account was gone due to inactivity, but I'm back on USWest today, laddering for random team and damn the disparity in the matchmaking is so huge. I've just made an account on yy and will spend some time getting good on that.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 10 2013 13:08 GMT
#119
I added your name to the OP, Xialos. Welcome amongst us!

Lucky you, Oktyabr. Since you're in Singapore you can play on YY with the best conditions and no spike. It does seem to be the best alternative around, mostly because of the state of WC3 in China. I'll definitely play more on YY, but eventually the many spikes I get will probably hurt me some.

In any case, if you feel like joining us, make an account on Azeroth! We still need to create the clan though.

So far, the people who have been the most active the last few days are: Tchado (or so it seems), 3point14, Kevmeister (FliedLice), Ydriel and myself. Need a bit more to make the clan! Make it happen!
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TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
October 10 2013 14:02 GMT
#120
I play pretty regular on tft.w3arena.net and the delay is small and map pool is great as well BUT the skill level is higher than bnet, so I wouldn't recommend starting off playing on w3arena. I would start off on bnet, the hacker issue on bnet is highly overblown. I play on bnet as well and only encounter a hacker probably 10-20 percent of the time max.

I am also watch a LOT of streams of wc3 here are very good players who stream:

WhiteAndNerdyyy (Undead): http://www.twitch.tv/whiteandnerdyyy
Ente (Undead): http://www.twitch.tv/justagozu
Cechi (Undead): http://www.twitch.tv/cechi1
DkHRain (Undead): http://www.twitch.tv/dkhwc3
DkHPain (Undead): http://www.twitch.tv/dkhpain
StarShapedSTHLM (Night Elf): http://www.twitch.tv/starshapedsthlm
SKHoT (Night Elf): http://www.twitch.tv/hazyfoggy
InquisitiveHawk (Human): http://www.twitch.tv/inquisitive7
DHC.Prado (Orc): http://www.twitch.tv/pradogo

And SoSorryman is def worth mentioning. He is a good player and very popular caster. Normally he has the most viewers when casting Zotac Cup. His link is: http://www.twitch.tv/sosorryman
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