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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
October 23 2024 07:32 GMT
#4701
So Warcraft III temporarily got patched to a new version 2.0 on PTR
Not sure what that means yet. Or if it means anything at all. Though rumor is Microsoft made Blizzard fix/ work WC3 Reforged ...

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Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
October 26 2024 08:01 GMT
#4702
Huh. I hope its true but I really can't imagine Microsoft giving a damn about Blizzard's legacy titles. Would love to be wrong though !
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
gfdtrefgdgjk
Profile Joined October 2024
4 Posts
October 26 2024 09:18 GMT
#4703
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
October 26 2024 11:08 GMT
#4704
Supposedly in November there's a bigger announcement.
Bought reforged and really liked the idea of graphics but game isn't readable
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States899 Posts
October 31 2024 05:30 GMT
#4705
Most people seem to think it's reforged 2.0.
It's been kept pretty hushed. Probably just original features and w3c quality of life implementation or perhaps collaboration.

If they touch or revisit graphics they just need to increase things like polygon and texture resolution and leave it the same.

Re-reforged
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-31 11:11:17
October 31 2024 11:05 GMT
#4706
On October 31 2024 14:30 Agh wrote:
Most people seem to think it's reforged 2.0.
It's been kept pretty hushed. Probably just original features and w3c quality of life implementation or perhaps collaboration.

If they touch or revisit graphics they just need to increase things like polygon and texture resolution and leave it the same.

Re-reforged

If they can do SC Re-redumbedmastered like that, that would be great.
Microsoft and Shield Battery collaboration. Old BW 1.16 graphics with wide screen, and the carbot and remastered skins for those who care, and QoL additions for all the other shit.
FBH #1!
gfdrewsdf
Profile Joined October 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-31 13:39:54
October 31 2024 13:39 GMT
#4707
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24383 Posts
October 31 2024 13:51 GMT
#4708
On October 31 2024 22:39 gfdrewsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2024 20:05 Peeano wrote:
On October 31 2024 14:30 Agh wrote:
Most people seem to think it's reforged 2.0.
It's been kept pretty hushed. Probably just original features and w3c quality of life implementation or perhaps collaboration.

If they touch or revisit graphics they just need to increase things like polygon and texture resolution and leave it the same.

Re-reforged

If they can do SC Re-redumbedmastered like that, that would be great.
Microsoft and Shield Battery collaboration. Old BW 1.16 graphics with wide screen, and the carbot and remastered skins for those who care, and QoL additions for all the other shit.

Why wouldnt you guys just play on Shield Battery? Shouldnt your scene be strong enough? Just check out its thread, 100th of enthusiastic people. You cant throw a stone without hitting someone "bragging" how cool it is to be into Brood War

It’s great to have options, and W3C or Shield Battery have done a great job that was much-needed.

However, if you can do it within the first party client and implement those features, it’s clearly something that has advantages. You fragment the playerbase less, folks don’t need to download third-party stuff (if they’re even aware it exists, which many aren’t) etc etc

Both W3C and Shield Battery are better ladder clients, but the average player is just better than the Blizz ladder. Which is a problem for newbies for sure, if you could have them mashed together you get the best of both worlds
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
gfdrewsdf
Profile Joined October 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-31 14:22:40
October 31 2024 14:00 GMT
#4709
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24383 Posts
October 31 2024 14:05 GMT
#4710
On October 31 2024 23:00 gfdrewsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2024 22:51 WombaT wrote:
On October 31 2024 22:39 gfdrewsdf wrote:
On October 31 2024 20:05 Peeano wrote:
On October 31 2024 14:30 Agh wrote:
Most people seem to think it's reforged 2.0.
It's been kept pretty hushed. Probably just original features and w3c quality of life implementation or perhaps collaboration.

If they touch or revisit graphics they just need to increase things like polygon and texture resolution and leave it the same.

Re-reforged

If they can do SC Re-redumbedmastered like that, that would be great.
Microsoft and Shield Battery collaboration. Old BW 1.16 graphics with wide screen, and the carbot and remastered skins for those who care, and QoL additions for all the other shit.

Why wouldnt you guys just play on Shield Battery? Shouldnt your scene be strong enough? Just check out its thread, 100th of enthusiastic people. You cant throw a stone without hitting someone "bragging" how cool it is to be into Brood War

It’s great to have options, and W3C or Shield Battery have done a great job that was much-needed.

However, if you can do it within the first party client and implement those features, it’s clearly something that has advantages. You fragment the playerbase less, folks don’t need to download third-party stuff (if they’re even aware it exists, which many aren’t) etc etc

Both W3C and Shield Battery are better ladder clients, but the average player is just better than the Blizz ladder. Which is a problem for newbies for sure, if you could have them mashed together you get the best of both worlds

The non-average player could just organize a scene in which they train, improve together on Shield Battery
Doesnt look like as if koreans using battle.net

That takes effort.

You have to find some kind of community like TL, or some Discords and players of your level, sync up times if you’re spread across the globe and schedule things.

Someone like me may do this, WC3 is my favourite game of all time and I’m enjoying returning to Azeroth a bit, even if I wasn’t a competitive 1v1 player first time around.

For players without prior knowledge, like newbies or don’t have some super motivation to spend too much time outside just playing the game, a ladder with a big range of skill sets is much more attractive
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
grwerwefsd
Profile Joined October 2024
1 Post
October 31 2024 23:18 GMT
#4711
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
November 07 2024 12:07 GMT
#4712
Seems like Warcraft 2 is going to get the "remaster" treatment now. May be interesting. Hope it's closer to the BW remaster than anything else though.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6805 Posts
November 14 2024 10:14 GMT
#4713
https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/warcraft-remastered-battle-chest?p=1863680

Blizz just dropped the Remastered of Warcraft Everything for 40 bucks

Celebrate 30 years of Warcraft® history and travel back to the beginning with remastered versions of Warcraft® I and II and a newly updated Warcraft® III Reforged.

This comprehensive collection includes the following games:

Warcraft® I: Remastered¹
Warcraft® II: Remastered²
Warcraft® III: Reforged (including Spoils of War Edition bonuses)
Warcraft®: Orcs & Humans³
Warcraft® II: Battle.net® Edition⁴
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
November 14 2024 14:25 GMT
#4714
On November 14 2024 19:14 Harris1st wrote:
https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/warcraft-remastered-battle-chest?p=1863680

Blizz just dropped the Remastered of Warcraft Everything for 40 bucks

Show nested quote +
Celebrate 30 years of Warcraft® history and travel back to the beginning with remastered versions of Warcraft® I and II and a newly updated Warcraft® III Reforged.

This comprehensive collection includes the following games:

Warcraft® I: Remastered¹
Warcraft® II: Remastered²
Warcraft® III: Reforged (including Spoils of War Edition bonuses)
Warcraft®: Orcs & Humans³
Warcraft® II: Battle.net® Edition⁴


Knowing they still sell WC3: Refunded for 30 bucks it seems like a good deal on paper, but since this a pre-order it's a very risky upfront payment - I'm watching Grubby's review of the internal dev build they have right now, at the very least it seems they are FINALLY properly fixing the game, only took them 4 years to do so...
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24383 Posts
November 14 2024 15:40 GMT
#4715
Man do I have to pre-order? I got burned last time! Does one get access to regular Reforged with this bundle?

What Grubby was showing seems very promising. Basically the MVP I expected last time around.

I really like the mix and match of settings options, that’s actually cool. I really like getting to choose certain options for your heroes. They all look super recognisable, so there’s not issues with visibility. But I get to have Illidan! That’s dope. As Grubby pointed out, maybe a ‘pay to lose’ skin given his footsteps linger on the ground, but cool

And they’ve not yet finished yet too, very promising. It feels whoever’s working on it has the right ideas and the requisite resources to deliver this time.

From what I saw it’s a mix of 3 batches of improvements:
1) Stuff that was in the original, should have been ported and modernised in ways perhaps, but wasn’t in Reforged.
2) QoL tweaks that either have been suggested by the community, or implemented in somewhere like W3Champions and added to this build.
3) Tweaks that weren’t hugely being demanded by the community, but were added and are nice

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
November 14 2024 16:47 GMT
#4716
What are you all talking about with regard to preorders? All of those things in the Battle Chest went live immediately alongside the announcement.
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
November 14 2024 17:17 GMT
#4717
On November 15 2024 00:40 WombaT wrote:
Man do I have to pre-order? I got burned last time! Does one get access to regular Reforged with this bundle?

What Grubby was showing seems very promising. Basically the MVP I expected last time around.

I really like the mix and match of settings options, that’s actually cool. I really like getting to choose certain options for your heroes. They all look super recognisable, so there’s not issues with visibility. But I get to have Illidan! That’s dope. As Grubby pointed out, maybe a ‘pay to lose’ skin given his footsteps linger on the ground, but cool

And they’ve not yet finished yet too, very promising. It feels whoever’s working on it has the right ideas and the requisite resources to deliver this time.

From what I saw it’s a mix of 3 batches of improvements:
1) Stuff that was in the original, should have been ported and modernised in ways perhaps, but wasn’t in Reforged.
2) QoL tweaks that either have been suggested by the community, or implemented in somewhere like W3Champions and added to this build.
3) Tweaks that weren’t hugely being demanded by the community, but were added and are nice



It's a free upgrade for wc3
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States869 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-14 22:23:19
November 14 2024 22:18 GMT
#4718
Played a few games last night on 2.0 and honestly I'm pretty thrilled at the overall improvements. I definitely noticed some bugs, like the default zoom not working properly (you start the game zoomed in all the way), and it's way less stable than the previous client at least on my system. Hopefully they will improve the stability issues soon.

Biggest win in my opinion is the ability to use original models without sacrificing all the other graphical upgrades. I can finally tell the difference between priests and sorcerers again! The in game timer is also really nice.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
November 14 2024 22:52 GMT
#4719
On November 07 2024 21:07 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Seems like Warcraft 2 is going to get the "remaster" treatment now. May be interesting. Hope it's closer to the BW remaster than anything else though.

After watching a couple of youtube videos just seems like they really half-assed it.Can barely tell the difference with the new graphics, some of the units even look worse like destroyers.A lot of detail lost.Not sure if Warcraft II even needed a remaster to be honest.

But if people for some reason want to play warcraft 1, with all the quality of life stuff they added like hotkeys, increased unit selection from 4 to 12, right click to move etc it's better to play the remastered.A far bigger jump with the graphics from old to new as well compared to warcraft 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States642 Posts
November 15 2024 00:00 GMT
#4720
well, only hopeful thing is maybe Warcraft 4 is in the making :D
Salty Terran Old dog, love Brood war, enjoy SC2, but absolutely hate SC2 cause I can't react to the minimap fast enough, my eye has gotten old and I need minimap on the right and we can't :(
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