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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
November 30 2019 21:24 GMT
#3781
very nice final day and a deserved winner crowned at the end

Great tournament overall, I had a lot of fun watching !
War2Combat11
Profile Joined March 2019
3 Posts
December 04 2019 06:44 GMT
#3782
Hey there all. Hosting a 1vs1 Turtle Rock tournament this Sunday at 3pm est time on the USEast server in channel Clan GGL. Show up at 2:30 for check ins.
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
December 07 2019 10:48 GMT
#3783


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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 17 2019 22:16 GMT
#3784
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1110 Posts
December 18 2019 02:49 GMT
#3785
I think they still have a ways to go, even that seems too early. Doubt they'll do a graphic overhaul for textures at this point since they're starting to work on portaits now so I'll probably be sticking to the old client.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-18 08:18:44
December 18 2019 08:11 GMT
#3786
i decided to get my pre-order in and... what the fuck is with the game engine? i really do hope this truly an effect of the beta because i'm getting shitty ass performances on my pc that's way too good for the game (i5 6600k, rx 5700).

everything is on low too and i have that reduce mouse input latency thing off - also dragging around the mini map causes bad frame drops too.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7438 Posts
December 18 2019 08:42 GMT
#3787
On December 18 2019 07:16 Cyro wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.


This whole game seems so awkward at times. They are putting so much work into this but it barely looks better than the old one and has abysmal performance.

I don't think they ever pushed something out the door before it was ready. What game do you have in mind?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-18 09:30:23
December 18 2019 09:29 GMT
#3788
On December 18 2019 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2019 07:16 Cyro wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.


This whole game seems so awkward at times. They are putting so much work into this but it barely looks better than the old one and has abysmal performance.

I don't think they ever pushed something out the door before it was ready. What game do you have in mind?

In my opinion, the game actually looks horrible.. I mean the style of the graphics is not even looking like Warcraft 3 and it looks like a game from 2015 at best.. + the atrocious performance to add to it..

looks like Bli$$ard has some major problems overall atm and I think that is impacting the Reforged release big time.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27471 Posts
December 18 2019 09:41 GMT
#3789
On December 18 2019 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2019 07:16 Cyro wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.


This whole game seems so awkward at times. They are putting so much work into this but it barely looks better than the old one and has abysmal performance.

I don't think they ever pushed something out the door before it was ready. What game do you have in mind?

I don’t think he was saying that they have in the past, just that they’ve not really pushed back a game after giving a vaguely solid release date.

Which tbh I can’t recall either.

I don’t think it bodes very well for the future, whatever the reasons may be that Blizz can’t launch stable, feature complete versions of their two classic RTS games.

People who have way better rigs than I are reporting terrible performance issues, if I’d not already cancelled the pre-order for a game that is in my top 5 all time favourite games, then I would have just for that.

Part of why I played so many Blizzard games over the years was that they all ran really well even on our family’s relatively underpowered Macs.

It’s really, really disappointing if they don’t get these kind of issues ironed out.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 18 2019 17:54 GMT
#3790
On December 18 2019 17:11 GTR wrote:
i decided to get my pre-order in and... what the fuck is with the game engine? i really do hope this truly an effect of the beta because i'm getting shitty ass performances on my pc that's way too good for the game (i5 6600k, rx 5700).

everything is on low too and i have that reduce mouse input latency thing off - also dragging around the mini map causes bad frame drops too.


Its super terrible. But its ok. The game was 100% fine as is and I fully intend to run it using default graphics. The new Bnet and whatnot is plenty to be excited for. It didn't need the graphics update and it appears to be the only shitty thing. So I'm just not gonna use it.
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
December 18 2019 20:56 GMT
#3791
My expectation for wc3 remaster was already low way back when blizzard announced that they were planning on remastering their classic games, as has just about every feature the latest rts games have minus maybe the ingame hotkey management. I guess the SCR's lack of popularity put a fire up their ass or something, really wish they would've just went with remastering and skin selling instead of the whole reforging thing. Anyone who've tried beta knows that the game isn't at a stage where it can be salvaged with a month delay, it needs to be pushed back further till next summer or at the very least.
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States469 Posts
December 19 2019 14:15 GMT
#3792
On December 18 2019 17:11 GTR wrote:
i decided to get my pre-order in and... what the fuck is with the game engine? i really do hope this truly an effect of the beta because i'm getting shitty ass performances on my pc that's way too good for the game (i5 6600k, rx 5700).

everything is on low too and i have that reduce mouse input latency thing off - also dragging around the mini map causes bad frame drops too.


Same its baffling. Terrible lag throughout the game with good specs on my pc and its supposed to release in one month. Wouldnt be shocked if it got pushed back again, it doesnt seem close to ready just yet.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-19 19:04:21
December 19 2019 19:04 GMT
#3793
Announced. It's coming at 29th January 2020. I hope they fixed the fps-drops when looking at UD Base (~40fps Drops).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-19 21:54:23
December 19 2019 21:21 GMT
#3794
On December 18 2019 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2019 07:16 Cyro wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.


This whole game seems so awkward at times. They are putting so much work into this but it barely looks better than the old one and has abysmal performance.

I don't think they ever pushed something out the door before it was ready. What game do you have in mind?


Battle for Azeroth (q3 2018) was the least finished product (by metrics like gamebreaking bugs, polish etc) that i've ever seen them release. They basically stopped communicating with internal testers, skipped a big fraction of the beta and just pushed it live because a year prior they had been way overly optimistic on development timelines and would absolutely not miss their quarterly earnings report.

Quick example, one of the skill choices for my main class was nonfunctional on the engine level for the entire beta before being pushed live, not fixed until like 6 weeks later without a patch note.

SC Remastered was a huge mess at launch.


In the last couple of years they've also had QA failures on content patches which shut down entire games - SC2 on all servers aside from US for over 24 hours (some of the engine code required every player in the game to have the US-English OS language format for decimal places or it would instantly crash). The same patch had enough significant bugs / lack of polish that they had to fix most of them with recurring client patches 1, 2 and 3 weeks afterwards to get it into a good state.

The other one was WoW group content literally unplayable for like four days (they went over-budget on memory usage for the 32-bit client, shipped a late band-aid fix to both 32 and 64 bit clients without proper testing and it made you run at 10fps if there were many players/enemies nearby)

They didn't revert the failed patch in either case, nor compensate players for lost time that they had literally paid for with limited days/hours/minutes.


Very rushed overall and not like Blizzard used to be, so i'm again happy that they would delay a game once again and put quality over having an earlier return on stock prices. It's not a game that has hundreds of millions of dollars worth of sales attached to the release day but it's still a good sign for WC3R and the future.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17865 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-19 22:30:12
December 19 2019 22:29 GMT
#3795
They could even delay it another 6 months and I'd be fine with it. As long as they release a polished product I don't mind waiting.

I'd rather have something working properly a bit later than a complete mess that takes them a year to patch to a proper state sooner.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 20 2019 04:51 GMT
#3796
On December 20 2019 07:29 Manit0u wrote:
They could even delay it another 6 months and I'd be fine with it. As long as they release a polished product I don't mind waiting.

I'd rather have something working properly a bit later than a complete mess that takes them a year to patch to a proper state sooner.


Same. The game I played yesterday felt really bad. I don't understand what the rush is.
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
December 20 2019 05:08 GMT
#3797
On December 20 2019 13:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2019 07:29 Manit0u wrote:
They could even delay it another 6 months and I'd be fine with it. As long as they release a polished product I don't mind waiting.

I'd rather have something working properly a bit later than a complete mess that takes them a year to patch to a proper state sooner.


Same. The game I played yesterday felt really bad. I don't understand what the rush is.


Probably something about quarterly statistics and higher ups wanting the game to be released by Christmas or something. I don't know jack about programming or game designing but I don't think wc3 is gonna get its second chance if it comes out on January.
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7438 Posts
December 20 2019 09:08 GMT
#3798
On December 20 2019 06:21 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2019 17:42 Harris1st wrote:
On December 18 2019 07:16 Cyro wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for reforged but they just announced that they're delaying launch to Jan 29, 2020.

It's rare to see them sell something as "before X date" and then break that commitment, especially weeks before, i don't think i've seen Blizzard ever do that before. Very nice to see them go for quality over quantity as they've pushed other games live way before they were ready in recent years.


This whole game seems so awkward at times. They are putting so much work into this but it barely looks better than the old one and has abysmal performance.

I don't think they ever pushed something out the door before it was ready. What game do you have in mind?


Battle for Azeroth (q3 2018) was the least finished product (by metrics like gamebreaking bugs, polish etc) that i've ever seen them release. They basically stopped communicating with internal testers, skipped a big fraction of the beta and just pushed it live because a year prior they had been way overly optimistic on development timelines and would absolutely not miss their quarterly earnings report.

Quick example, one of the skill choices for my main class was nonfunctional on the engine level for the entire beta before being pushed live, not fixed until like 6 weeks later without a patch note.

SC Remastered was a huge mess at launch.


In the last couple of years they've also had QA failures on content patches which shut down entire games - SC2 on all servers aside from US for over 24 hours (some of the engine code required every player in the game to have the US-English OS language format for decimal places or it would instantly crash). The same patch had enough significant bugs / lack of polish that they had to fix most of them with recurring client patches 1, 2 and 3 weeks afterwards to get it into a good state.

The other one was WoW group content literally unplayable for like four days (they went over-budget on memory usage for the 32-bit client, shipped a late band-aid fix to both 32 and 64 bit clients without proper testing and it made you run at 10fps if there were many players/enemies nearby)

They didn't revert the failed patch in either case, nor compensate players for lost time that they had literally paid for with limited days/hours/minutes.


Very rushed overall and not like Blizzard used to be, so i'm again happy that they would delay a game once again and put quality over having an earlier return on stock prices. It's not a game that has hundreds of millions of dollars worth of sales attached to the release day but it's still a good sign for WC3R and the future.


I'm not involved with World of Warcraft at all, so I had no idea about this happening.
But you are certainly right with recent patches in games. SC2 patches have been a shitshow these last few months.

I am really surprised that so many people make such a big fuss about WC3R (or remakes/ reforges/ remasters in general)
I thought it could be interesting if it widens the pro scene and for laddering and stuff since it is fun and not as taxing as Starcraft IMO. I doubt I will play the campaign again. I've pretty much never seen a movie or tv show twice or re-read a book.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 20 2019 20:30 GMT
#3799
I'd be interested mostly for campaign and custom maps TBH, but not having QOL like many-unit-select makes that less fun for me
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
December 21 2019 23:16 GMT
#3800
So if you pre order, you are able to play the Beta?
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