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On March 14 2016 12:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 12:15 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.
You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.
2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.
That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well. I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-; In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months. Floors 1 and 2 should be trivial unless you can't activate; getting orb screwed in descends blows, but it happens. You can use a Lumiel active to sweep through 3 and 4 (if not skilled you can stall on floor 1 or 2). You'll have to stall through the skill bind on 5, but the enemy makes hearts. Floor 6 leads to an interesting choice. Option 1: you have a hypered triple TPA card on your team so you can burst 600k through the defense. With two TPAs and the lilith active you should be over 600k, but the numbers are close and it'll depend on your combos (Two Dark TPAs, lilith active, and 6 combos). Option 2: If you can knock it below half then it will be trivial to burst 600k with the type bonus. Option 3: you just stall and poison it with lilith after the status shield goes away, but that means healing a lot and praying for heart sky falls. Floor 7 will be all about managing damage. You need to tap the boss down to where you can burst it with Ronia/Baddie without going under 30%. Doing 60-70% in one hit with Ronia/Baddie sounds very reasonable, but you can push towards a safer burst if you can stall longer. The boss is a heartbreaker so this part could be more challenging. Floors 5 and 7 are the only floors that should be an issue I think. I'm not sure how much recovery your team has for stalling 20k damage every two turns.
That's the problem, Lumiel team with Baddie doesn't even have 20k HP ):
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FML Skill ups on the angel and demon 1 for 10.....skill ups on fucking Apollo from fodder 5/6 Fuck me lol.
Yea going to have to just farm dungeons and pray for invades. Not good enough to consistently farm Ult God and Devil rushes hehe.
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On March 14 2016 13:00 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 12:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On March 14 2016 12:15 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.
You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.
2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.
That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well. I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-; In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months. Floors 1 and 2 should be trivial unless you can't activate; getting orb screwed in descends blows, but it happens. You can use a Lumiel active to sweep through 3 and 4 (if not skilled you can stall on floor 1 or 2). You'll have to stall through the skill bind on 5, but the enemy makes hearts. Floor 6 leads to an interesting choice. Option 1: you have a hypered triple TPA card on your team so you can burst 600k through the defense. With two TPAs and the lilith active you should be over 600k, but the numbers are close and it'll depend on your combos (Two Dark TPAs, lilith active, and 6 combos). Option 2: If you can knock it below half then it will be trivial to burst 600k with the type bonus. Option 3: you just stall and poison it with lilith after the status shield goes away, but that means healing a lot and praying for heart sky falls. Floor 7 will be all about managing damage. You need to tap the boss down to where you can burst it with Ronia/Baddie without going under 30%. Doing 60-70% in one hit with Ronia/Baddie sounds very reasonable, but you can push towards a safer burst if you can stall longer. The boss is a heartbreaker so this part could be more challenging. Floors 5 and 7 are the only floors that should be an issue I think. I'm not sure how much recovery your team has for stalling 20k damage every two turns. That's the problem, Lumiel team with Baddie doesn't even have 20k HP ):
It's a 14k hit that makes hearts and then a 6k hit. Recovery is the concern here, although you could burn the turns on Floor 6 and possibly 7 if you can break defense. Stalling on 7 instead carries its own risks though. You'll have two or three turns to setup a board with three TPAs to break defense at least.
On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
FML Skill ups on the angel and demon 1 for 10.....skill ups on fucking Apollo from fodder 5/6 Fuck me lol.
This is pretty much how my dog farming went. Maeda Keiji ends up max skilled. Mori went like 1/25 or some bullshit and is skill level 2. Mori might actually be useful for my AI&I team, but not if he isn't skilled ^_^ Maeda is completely useless and will just collect dust in my box.
On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
Yea going to have to just farm dungeons and pray for invades. Not good enough to consistently farm Ult God and Devil rushes hehe.
Even if you're only clearing half the time its still more efficient to farm ultimate rush. The invade rate is that bad. What team are you running for Grisar farming? I think our only compatible option is panda, but that might work out. Kinda worried about the damage since my panda team is less than ideal, but we can test it out at least.
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Welp, the game doesn't want me to skill up raphael, so I'm gonna give up. After week 1 of running the dog dungeon on and off and getting about 90% blue dog drop rate, I finally gathered enough light dog drops for 15 feeds this week, going 3/15. Decided to go for a last push today on the last day, and go 0/5
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Okay so after spending a stone to refill my stamina because I was sick of getting those two dumb-ass blue and green sorceresses, I finally saw and caught on my first attempt that elusive red Grimoire!!! AWOKEN SHIVA HERE I COME <3
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On March 14 2016 13:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 13:00 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 12:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On March 14 2016 12:15 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.
You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.
2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.
That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well. I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-; In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months. Floors 1 and 2 should be trivial unless you can't activate; getting orb screwed in descends blows, but it happens. You can use a Lumiel active to sweep through 3 and 4 (if not skilled you can stall on floor 1 or 2). You'll have to stall through the skill bind on 5, but the enemy makes hearts. Floor 6 leads to an interesting choice. Option 1: you have a hypered triple TPA card on your team so you can burst 600k through the defense. With two TPAs and the lilith active you should be over 600k, but the numbers are close and it'll depend on your combos (Two Dark TPAs, lilith active, and 6 combos). Option 2: If you can knock it below half then it will be trivial to burst 600k with the type bonus. Option 3: you just stall and poison it with lilith after the status shield goes away, but that means healing a lot and praying for heart sky falls. Floor 7 will be all about managing damage. You need to tap the boss down to where you can burst it with Ronia/Baddie without going under 30%. Doing 60-70% in one hit with Ronia/Baddie sounds very reasonable, but you can push towards a safer burst if you can stall longer. The boss is a heartbreaker so this part could be more challenging. Floors 5 and 7 are the only floors that should be an issue I think. I'm not sure how much recovery your team has for stalling 20k damage every two turns. That's the problem, Lumiel team with Baddie doesn't even have 20k HP ): It's a 14k hit that makes hearts and then a 6k hit. Recovery is the concern here, although you could burn the turns on Floor 6 and possibly 7 if you can break defense. Stalling on 7 instead carries its own risks though. You'll have two or three turns to setup a board with three TPAs to break defense at least. Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
FML Skill ups on the angel and demon 1 for 10.....skill ups on fucking Apollo from fodder 5/6 Fuck me lol. This is pretty much how my dog farming went. Maeda Keiji ends up max skilled. Mori went like 1/25 or some bullshit and is skill level 2. Mori might actually be useful for my AI&I team, but not if he isn't skilled ^_^ Maeda is completely useless and will just collect dust in my box. Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
Yea going to have to just farm dungeons and pray for invades. Not good enough to consistently farm Ult God and Devil rushes hehe. Even if you're only clearing half the time its still more efficient to farm ultimate rush. The invade rate is that bad. What team are you running for Grisar farming? I think our only compatible option is panda, but that might work out. Kinda worried about the damage since my panda team is less than ideal, but we can test it out at least.
https://www.padherder.com/user/Slaughter/teams/#212679
My teams. I use Panda for it and (usually) I can get to Dark Zeus without dying unless I fuck up (not uncommon) but getting his 6 combos is iffy for me ><
Oh nm you are talking devil rush. Uh I haven't ran that one as much but yea same team and have the same problems. Mostly I think I am too reliant on actives.
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On March 14 2016 13:27 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 13:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On March 14 2016 13:00 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 12:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On March 14 2016 12:15 Jealous wrote:On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.
You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.
2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.
That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well. I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-; In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months. Floors 1 and 2 should be trivial unless you can't activate; getting orb screwed in descends blows, but it happens. You can use a Lumiel active to sweep through 3 and 4 (if not skilled you can stall on floor 1 or 2). You'll have to stall through the skill bind on 5, but the enemy makes hearts. Floor 6 leads to an interesting choice. Option 1: you have a hypered triple TPA card on your team so you can burst 600k through the defense. With two TPAs and the lilith active you should be over 600k, but the numbers are close and it'll depend on your combos (Two Dark TPAs, lilith active, and 6 combos). Option 2: If you can knock it below half then it will be trivial to burst 600k with the type bonus. Option 3: you just stall and poison it with lilith after the status shield goes away, but that means healing a lot and praying for heart sky falls. Floor 7 will be all about managing damage. You need to tap the boss down to where you can burst it with Ronia/Baddie without going under 30%. Doing 60-70% in one hit with Ronia/Baddie sounds very reasonable, but you can push towards a safer burst if you can stall longer. The boss is a heartbreaker so this part could be more challenging. Floors 5 and 7 are the only floors that should be an issue I think. I'm not sure how much recovery your team has for stalling 20k damage every two turns. That's the problem, Lumiel team with Baddie doesn't even have 20k HP ): It's a 14k hit that makes hearts and then a 6k hit. Recovery is the concern here, although you could burn the turns on Floor 6 and possibly 7 if you can break defense. Stalling on 7 instead carries its own risks though. You'll have two or three turns to setup a board with three TPAs to break defense at least. On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
FML Skill ups on the angel and demon 1 for 10.....skill ups on fucking Apollo from fodder 5/6 Fuck me lol. This is pretty much how my dog farming went. Maeda Keiji ends up max skilled. Mori went like 1/25 or some bullshit and is skill level 2. Mori might actually be useful for my AI&I team, but not if he isn't skilled ^_^ Maeda is completely useless and will just collect dust in my box. On March 14 2016 13:07 Slaughter wrote:
Yea going to have to just farm dungeons and pray for invades. Not good enough to consistently farm Ult God and Devil rushes hehe. Even if you're only clearing half the time its still more efficient to farm ultimate rush. The invade rate is that bad. What team are you running for Grisar farming? I think our only compatible option is panda, but that might work out. Kinda worried about the damage since my panda team is less than ideal, but we can test it out at least. https://www.padherder.com/user/Slaughter/teams/#212679My teams. I use Panda for it and (usually) I can get to Dark Zeus without dying unless I fuck up (not uncommon) but getting his 6 combos is iffy for me >< Oh nm you are talking devil rush. Uh I haven't ran that one as much but yea same team and have the same problems. Mostly I think I am too reliant on actives.
Well you get four extra actives in coop at least.
Not sure if I have better options than this
https://www.padherder.com/user/AinSophAur/teams/#217511
I don't see what team I'd put Elia on, but I wouldn't mind putting some effort into her during this event. Making 6 combos with a row team isn't really in my skill set though.
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If only I had Bastet lol. She seems like she can do so much right now. I just want Elia for my A Sakuya team, tho I guess its not as needed since I have Apollo. Spoiled by having 2 Kali's for that team.
Oh well. A Yomi will be online within the week, though my Z8 as a sub for it is a ways off.
But if you want to give it a go I would be down. It would be cool just to see how this whole multiplayer thing works.
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Grats on Theurgia!
Sorceress descended was also my first descend clear 
Don't be afraid to use a stone now and then if it's for a drop that you really need, especially if it's a limited time dungeon.
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On March 14 2016 09:01 Zen5034 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 04:06 Rehio wrote:
Ah, sorry to bother you folks, but would anyone be willing to do the whole Best Friend thing?
Two of my Best Friends that I randomly contacted seem to not be playing anymore, which is rather frustrating. Figured someone around here would be a tad more reliable.
Pretty sure I've never missed a day of at least playing a bit in my 850 consecutive, so at least I'll be around for points. :D What do you run? I'd be down.
Oh, uh.. not entirely sure how to tell. As much as I've never missed a day of playing, I've also never delved deeply into the mechanics or the community of P and Z, you know?
Think my first two teams are Marvelous Red Dragon Caller, Sonia and Awoken Shiva? Is that how that works? I'd be willing to change stuff around, though, I have other fellas that might be good, I think.
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On March 14 2016 16:03 abuse wrote:Grats on Theurgia! Sorceress descended was also my first descend clear Don't be afraid to use a stone now and then if it's for a drop that you really need, especially if it's a limited time dungeon.
Thank you!
I really hate using stones, and it's been said in this thread over and over that I shouldn't use stones on anything, but I 100% agree. I was tired of waiting for the next Grimoire, running it 5-6 times in a day trying different team combinations, failing/not getting the right sorceress, and then having to wait what, 1 month? Been on that loop since December (even though I was woefully unprepared then). Yesterday I started beating it consistently and I got a rank up so I got 2 more runs, but in those last 4 runs I only saw blue and green Grimoires (caught one of each though). I was pissed and I decided that I didn't care if i spent all my stones on stamina, I was going to get that damn red Grimoire. On the last run, I got her! Glad I didn't have to spent too many stones and I don't foresee a situation in which I will have to in the future, but I respect the stamina more now.
I realized also that while I by no means have an impressive box, my Fire team is pretty much complete and I have plenty of situations subs to raise right now... I don't really NEED to run Godfest and save every last stone for it at the moment. I don't think I have eneough team capacity to even house another good sub like Cao Cao without removing Ronia or something.
My fire team atm:
Shiva/Gigas/Homura/Set/Ronia
Subs I have/am working on: Echidna, Flame Dragon Swordsman, Uriel, Markab, Parrot, Exa-Hydra, a second Ronia
Not that having Cao Cao or Urd wouldn't be nice, but I don't think I NEED them.
EDIT: Also, what happened to the coin dungeons? ):
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On March 14 2016 19:51 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 09:01 Zen5034 wrote:On March 14 2016 04:06 Rehio wrote:
Ah, sorry to bother you folks, but would anyone be willing to do the whole Best Friend thing?
Two of my Best Friends that I randomly contacted seem to not be playing anymore, which is rather frustrating. Figured someone around here would be a tad more reliable.
Pretty sure I've never missed a day of at least playing a bit in my 850 consecutive, so at least I'll be around for points. :D What do you run? I'd be down. Oh, uh.. not entirely sure how to tell. As much as I've never missed a day of playing, I've also never delved deeply into the mechanics or the community of P and Z, you know? Think my first two teams are Marvelous Red Dragon Caller, Sonia and Awoken Shiva? Is that how that works? I'd be willing to change stuff around, though, I have other fellas that might be good, I think.
Works for me! 317.122.396
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On March 14 2016 13:24 dkpl wrote:
Welp, the game doesn't want me to skill up raphael, so I'm gonna give up. After week 1 of running the dog dungeon on and off and getting about 90% blue dog drop rate, I finally gathered enough light dog drops for 15 feeds this week, going 3/15. Decided to go for a last push today on the last day, and go 0/5
I max skilled last night :>
went 6/10 :D
Maybe I'll try him on my Linka Row team
Although
Then Mori got my last skill up
edit: also grats on getting the red thing to drop! @Jealous
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0 stoned the c10 w/ a luci after 3 tries. stalling on goemon for actives is a pain but I like these short dungeons
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What's the least orb change dependent team to beat this ranking dungeon with?
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Canada8033 Posts
Ra/radra is the best choice.
I'm tempted to use Sakuya but the possibility of orb troll scares me. Bastet is a no go. TPA unconditionals should do okay.
Maybe Horus?
Edit: Fuck floor 3.
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On March 14 2016 23:31 JSH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2016 13:24 dkpl wrote:
Welp, the game doesn't want me to skill up raphael, so I'm gonna give up. After week 1 of running the dog dungeon on and off and getting about 90% blue dog drop rate, I finally gathered enough light dog drops for 15 feeds this week, going 3/15. Decided to go for a last push today on the last day, and go 0/5 I max skilled last night :> went 6/10 :D Maybe I'll try him on my Linka Row team Although Then Mori got my last skill up edit: also grats on getting the red thing to drop! @Jealous
Thank you! Couldn't have done it without your Lumiel bae. I already awoke Shiva, now all I need to do is ult evo Set once I get a Dub mythlit and a red keeper this week in the daily specials and my main team will be solidified! Now comes the long +orb and skill up farm and tackling the last 2 technical/normal dungeons! I almost beat Legendary Earth with my Ronia team, now it will probably be even easier with two defense breaking Shiva ^^
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Canada8033 Posts
Okay, Sakuya is hopeless. The orb troll is so, so strong.
I took a fucking droidragon just so that floor 3 would stop screwing me over.
I tried Horus with a dark-heavy team. Seems alright. Horus/Horus lacks damage though.
Horus/radra was too demanding for my sub pool. Getting activations was a chore.
Horus/Kenshiro was amazing. I was running Horus / beel / yomi / droidragon / Loki / Kenshiro. Everybody gets the atk/rcv multiplier. It was glorious.
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Score 125k first run with my hybrid shiva team. Not bad I think Bit short of the top bracket, but I think I can optimize a bit and get better orb luck.
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