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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
March 13 2016 14:24 GMT
#9501
Holy shit, the skillup rates are sick now. I went 6/8 on lkali and then 4/6 on meimei
I don't believe you.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 13 2016 15:49 GMT
#9502
Is there a specific dungeon to farm for this angel/demon invade event? Like a coin dungeon maybe?
Never Knows Best.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 16:57:54
March 13 2016 16:55 GMT
#9503
They invade the descends just like spirit jewels. This means about 15% invade chance for average of 333 stamina.

You should be farming for Grisar or Elia in the mythical plus version of the multiplayer dungeon though. It's far more efficient even without the current half stamina event. Guaranteed drop is just too good.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 17:53:18
March 13 2016 17:35 GMT
#9504
I see. Yea will have to find one I can farm consistently (I haven't tried a lot of them yet outside of Scarlet and Z8).

They only invade on the top 5 dungeons that are descends right?
Never Knows Best.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 18:27:59
March 13 2016 18:25 GMT
#9505
On March 14 2016 02:35 Slaughter wrote:
I see. Yea will have to find one I can farm consistently (I haven't tried a lot of them yet outside of Scarlet and Z8).

They only invade on the top 5 dungeons that are descends right?


Elia is the boss of mythical plus god rush and Grisar is the boss of mythical plus devil rush. They're good because they're guaranteed to be there. Relying on invades is a waste of stamina because you can guarantee their appearance.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
March 13 2016 19:06 GMT
#9506
Ah, sorry to bother you folks, but would anyone be willing to do the whole Best Friend thing?

Two of my Best Friends that I randomly contacted seem to not be playing anymore, which is rather frustrating. Figured someone around here would be a tad more reliable.

Pretty sure I've never missed a day of at least playing a bit in my 850 consecutive, so at least I'll be around for points. :D
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 20:53:11
March 13 2016 19:29 GMT
#9507
On March 14 2016 03:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 02:35 Slaughter wrote:
I see. Yea will have to find one I can farm consistently (I haven't tried a lot of them yet outside of Scarlet and Z8).

They only invade on the top 5 dungeons that are descends right?


Elia is the boss of mythical plus god rush and Grisar is the boss of mythical plus devil rush. They're good because they're guaranteed to be there. Relying on invades is a waste of stamina because you can guarantee their appearance.


Oh didn't know that. If I can clear them without stoning that would be great


Edit: yea devil rush isn't as bad but the God one I don't think so rofl.
Never Knows Best.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 22:37:04
March 13 2016 22:22 GMT
#9508
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 13 2016 22:37 GMT
#9509
On March 14 2016 07:22 Jealous wrote:
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???


Awakenings are negated by binds.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 13 2016 23:05 GMT
#9510
On March 14 2016 03:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 02:35 Slaughter wrote:
I see. Yea will have to find one I can farm consistently (I haven't tried a lot of them yet outside of Scarlet and Z8).

They only invade on the top 5 dungeons that are descends right?


Elia is the boss of mythical plus god rush and Grisar is the boss of mythical plus devil rush. They're good because they're guaranteed to be there. Relying on invades is a waste of stamina because you can guarantee their appearance.


Elia is easily farmed with Fal, I assume awoken pando would work just fine as well.
Grisar is not bad with Nepdra but more sketch.

However they are not 100% drop T.T
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-13 23:17:26
March 13 2016 23:12 GMT
#9511
On March 14 2016 07:22 Jealous wrote:
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???


You probably should bring baddie burst at the end. I don't think your Lumiel team can reliably heal 22k a turn. The boss has status shield so exdeath delay is useless unless you're using it on another floor.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
March 13 2016 23:57 GMT
#9512
On March 14 2016 08:12 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 07:22 Jealous wrote:
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???


You probably should bring baddie burst at the end. I don't think your Lumiel team can reliably heal 22k a turn. The boss has status shield so exdeath delay is useless unless you're using it on another floor.

I didn't seem to need to heal that much? The green Grimoire was only doing like 11~12k ish... I got her down to 1% without even using my Ronia//Lumiel/Exdeath actives... Not that I particularly NEED Exdeath, it's just that she is bulkier than Baddie and Lumiel/Lumiel doesn't give much health ): I will try with Baddie this time around though.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
March 14 2016 00:01 GMT
#9513
On March 14 2016 04:06 Rehio wrote:
Ah, sorry to bother you folks, but would anyone be willing to do the whole Best Friend thing?

Two of my Best Friends that I randomly contacted seem to not be playing anymore, which is rather frustrating. Figured someone around here would be a tad more reliable.

Pretty sure I've never missed a day of at least playing a bit in my 850 consecutive, so at least I'll be around for points. :D

What do you run? I'd be down.
Jaedong!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 00:11:48
March 14 2016 00:02 GMT
#9514
On March 14 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 08:12 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 14 2016 07:22 Jealous wrote:
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???


You probably should bring baddie burst at the end. I don't think your Lumiel team can reliably heal 22k a turn. The boss has status shield so exdeath delay is useless unless you're using it on another floor.

I didn't seem to need to heal that much? The green Grimoire was only doing like 11~12k ish... I got her down to 1% without even using my Ronia//Lumiel/Exdeath actives... Not that I particularly NEED Exdeath, it's just that she is bulkier than Baddie and Lumiel/Lumiel doesn't give much health ): I will try with Baddie this time around though.


Are you not running mythical? You should be able to burst a ton with Ronia so if you didn't use the active then the dungeon should be easy.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 01:44:07
March 14 2016 00:12 GMT
#9515
On March 14 2016 09:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2016 08:12 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 14 2016 07:22 Jealous wrote:
Run 3: Ronia/CRonia: Failure.

Run 4:
Lumiel/Hera/Ronia/Exdeath/Lillith/Lumiel (exdeath was an accident but it seems I might not even need King Baddie?)

Made it to the Grimoire. It was the grass type. She killed me with 1% HP remaining. Didn't even bother using my actives besides Lillith for Michael and Hera right when I got to the Grimoire. At least I know I can get the Grimoire to that point with this team. Gonna run again when stamina returns.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. RONIA HAS BIND RECOVERY?? I never knew this. Does it apply if she herself is bound???


You probably should bring baddie burst at the end. I don't think your Lumiel team can reliably heal 22k a turn. The boss has status shield so exdeath delay is useless unless you're using it on another floor.

I didn't seem to need to heal that much? The green Grimoire was only doing like 11~12k ish... I got her down to 1% without even using my Ronia//Lumiel/Exdeath actives... Not that I particularly NEED Exdeath, it's just that she is bulkier than Baddie and Lumiel/Lumiel doesn't give much health ): I will try with Baddie this time around though.


Are you not running mythical?

Fuck no

[image loading]

I just beat it (Legendary) as my first Descended win ever hahahaha. The King Baddie put her on blast. Too bad it was the green Grimoire and I didn't even get the drop. (Run 5)

I don't even have 22k HP on this team haha.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 00:28:07
March 14 2016 00:15 GMT
#9516
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.

You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.

2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.

That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 00:51:06
March 14 2016 00:50 GMT
#9517
On March 14 2016 08:05 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 03:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 14 2016 02:35 Slaughter wrote:
I see. Yea will have to find one I can farm consistently (I haven't tried a lot of them yet outside of Scarlet and Z8).

They only invade on the top 5 dungeons that are descends right?


Elia is the boss of mythical plus god rush and Grisar is the boss of mythical plus devil rush. They're good because they're guaranteed to be there. Relying on invades is a waste of stamina because you can guarantee their appearance.


Elia is easily farmed with Fal, I assume awoken pando would work just fine as well.
Grisar is not bad with Nepdra but more sketch.

However they are not 100% drop T.T



I haven't seriously tried it yet, just a couple runs I did while in a hurry but I kept fucking up kaka.

Good news is that I had a bunch of light pic sitting around and threw them at her. I think she would be nice in my A Sakura team once max skilled.. Dunno where else she would go. Maybe my farm athena team? I don't use light cards a lot.
Never Knows Best.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
March 14 2016 03:15 GMT
#9518
On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.

You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.

2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.

That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well.

I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-;

In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-14 03:43:43
March 14 2016 03:43 GMT
#9519
Zeus Stratios is the bane of my existence for God Rush. I just want to max skill my bloody high maintenance angel dammit.
Never Knows Best.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 14 2016 03:51 GMT
#9520
On March 14 2016 12:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2016 09:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
When a boss has an enrage like that the best strategy is to just not get hit by it so it doesn't matter. You have to burst down the boss so it never reaches the 0-30% mark. With baddie that shouldn't be too bad assuming you don't get screwed by Ronia board.

You're looking at a 3-4M burst requirement assuming you're pushing between 30 and 50. You've got two Lumiels so you obviously want to go for dark TPAs on your Ronia board.

2077 attack * 3.375 * 3 * 1.25 * 3 * 14 * combos is over 2M from one hyper Lumiel for 3 Dark TPA.

That gives you about 3.5M just from the Lumiels and your Ronia is gonna hit a decent amount as well.

I feel like I can't afford to try for Mythical when I was getting rocked by Legendary up until today... I doubt I'll be able to stall at all, and I will get bopped as a result -_-;

In the meantime, Run 6: caught a blue Grimoire sorceress -_-; I haven't even seen a red one yet, of all the runs I've done past few months.


Floors 1 and 2 should be trivial unless you can't activate; getting orb screwed in descends blows, but it happens. You can use a Lumiel active to sweep through 3 and 4 (if not skilled you can stall on floor 1 or 2). You'll have to stall through the skill bind on 5, but the enemy makes hearts. Floor 6 leads to an interesting choice. Option 1: you have a hypered triple TPA card on your team so you can burst 600k through the defense. With two TPAs and the lilith active you should be over 600k, but the numbers are close and it'll depend on your combos (Two Dark TPAs, lilith active, and 6 combos). Option 2: If you can knock it below half then it will be trivial to burst 600k with the type bonus. Option 3: you just stall and poison it with lilith after the status shield goes away, but that means healing a lot and praying for heart sky falls. Floor 7 will be all about managing damage. You need to tap the boss down to where you can burst it with Ronia/Baddie without going under 30%. Doing 60-70% in one hit with Ronia/Baddie sounds very reasonable, but you can push towards a safer burst if you can stall longer. The boss is a heartbreaker so this part could be more challenging.

Floors 5 and 7 are the only floors that should be an issue I think. I'm not sure how much recovery your team has for stalling 20k damage every two turns.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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