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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 00:13:23
November 10 2015 00:07 GMT
#7241
Hello everyone, newbie is back. I got stuck on the final boss in the Palace of Satan, which my friend said he heard is kind of a wall to the next level.

1. What should I do to overcome? I've been farming light evo materials for my light pixie bitch and to brolic up my knight of light or whatever his name is.

2. Is there some sort of resistance penalty for who you choose as leader? I know light is strong vs dark and vice versa, does that bitch and her pet dragons do more damage to me if I have the light knight as my leader?

Thanks team!

EDIT: + Show Spoiler +


[image loading]

Laugh if you must ):
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 00:25:28
November 10 2015 00:20 GMT
#7242
Getting stuck on Satan happens to almost everyone. You can zombie team through it if you want the easy road. That floor is actually significantly harder than than the dungeon after it and unlocks tier 5 which is what you'll want to be farming during the x3 plus egg event so getting past it is really important.

There is no resistance penalty.

Starting out is probably really hard now since you can't roll the PEM for random nice things anymore. Your box is really depressing. I had not considered that when I was suggesting pumping 50 eggs into box space at the start.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
November 10 2015 00:30 GMT
#7243
On November 10 2015 09:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Getting stuck on Satan happens to almost everyone. You can zombie team through it if you want the easy road. That floor is actually significantly harder than than the dungeon after it and unlocks tier 5 which is what you'll want to be farming during the x3 plus egg event so getting past it is really important.

There is no resistance penalty.

Starting out is probably really hard now since you can't roll the PEM for random nice things anymore. Your box is really depressing. I had not considered that when I was suggesting pumping 50 eggs into box space at the start.

What is Zombie team? Do I have the necessary components? If not, what is my best team to tackle this or where do I get the components?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 00:51:08
November 10 2015 00:37 GMT
#7244
A zombie team is a leader that provide perseverance (ogre is the easiest farmable option). Then you get a friend leader with an autoheal leader skill (healer girl, Amaterasu, Odin(odin has a bunch of auto heal awokens, he doesn't have the leader skill like the others)). Perseverance prevents you from dying to a single attack as long as you're above 70% health. With the autoheal you'll be able to heal up past the threshold every turn assuming you only get attacked by one enemy.

For subs you typically use high attack low hitpoint monsters to maintain the threshold, but this might not require any additional effort depending on what friend you're using. If you have an Amaterasu friend you'll heal many times your life bar no matter what you do at this point for instance, but it could be a problem if you're using a low level healer girl.

JSH has his Amaterasu up. I'm not sure if you added him or not.

I just noticed that you're on Vampire Lord not Satan so a zombie team won't actually work if you can't kill the two dragons with him. With your Arcline I'm not sure it'll be a problem unless they're synced one turn which would be incredibly unlucky.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
736 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 00:52:33
November 10 2015 00:42 GMT
#7245
Thoughts on Izanagi?

Starting out is probably really hard now since you can't roll the PEM for random nice things anymore. Your box is really depressing. I had not considered that when I was suggesting pumping 50 eggs into box space at the start.


can you explain what you mean by this?
I have a worse team than he does.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
November 10 2015 00:53 GMT
#7246
On November 10 2015 09:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
A zombie team is a leader that provide perseverance (ogre is the easiest farmable option). Then you get a friend leader with an autoheal leader skill (healer girl, Amaterasu, Odin(odin has a bunch of auto heal awokens, he doesn't have the leader skill like the others)). Perseverance prevents you from dying to a single attack as long as you're above 70% health. With the autoheal you'll be able to heal up past the threshold every turn assuming you only get attacked by one enemy.

For subs you typically use high attack low hitpoint monsters to maintain the threshold, but this might not require any additional effort depending on what friend you're using. If you have an Amaterasu friend you'll heal many times your life bar no matter what you do at this point for instance, but it could be a problem if you're using a low level healer girl.

JSH has his Amaterasu up. I'm not sure if you added him or not.

Alright so 1. Get an ogre 2. Field low HP subs 3. Use JSH's amaterasu (I added everyone from the point I came into this thread on). That really works? Hax.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 00:55:42
November 10 2015 00:54 GMT
#7247
well you definitely could use some ranks

farming the 3rd dungeon of tower of giants is always an option.
your missing a good leader though. I think maybe if you lead with cloud of dark and pair with my ronia you can probably steam roll through some dungeons. then once you have some stones collected roll a couple times in upcoming godfest (should be this weekend)

On November 10 2015 09:42 Fazers wrote:
Thoughts on Izanagi?


izanagi can be used as a farming lead kinda, hes more relegated to sub use later on. he's getting a 2nd ultimate evo soon that's significantly better. he's a good card to have overall. early on though its definitely tough to do much with him because he boosts god types and most god types in the game have high costs.
Argentina
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 01:40:43
November 10 2015 00:55 GMT
#7248
On November 10 2015 09:42 Fazers wrote:
Thoughts on Izanagi?

Show nested quote +
Starting out is probably really hard now since you can't roll the PEM for random nice things anymore. Your box is really depressing. I had not considered that when I was suggesting pumping 50 eggs into box space at the start.


can you explain what you mean by this?
I have a worse team than he does.


The PAL Egg Machine got changed to alternate between Enhance (current) and rare evo materials recently. Before it used to have a bunch of good drops for when you're just starting out (ripper dragons, healer girls, some REM skill fodder that can be used as orb changers). Since you don't have access to these anymore I think starting out would be a lot harder and you're pretty much forced to pull the REM to fill up your box.

If you're just starting out it isn't something to worry about. Just some useless theorycraft that happened yesterday.

On November 10 2015 09:53 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 09:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
A zombie team is a leader that provide perseverance (ogre is the easiest farmable option). Then you get a friend leader with an autoheal leader skill (healer girl, Amaterasu, Odin(odin has a bunch of auto heal awokens, he doesn't have the leader skill like the others)). Perseverance prevents you from dying to a single attack as long as you're above 70% health. With the autoheal you'll be able to heal up past the threshold every turn assuming you only get attacked by one enemy.

For subs you typically use high attack low hitpoint monsters to maintain the threshold, but this might not require any additional effort depending on what friend you're using. If you have an Amaterasu friend you'll heal many times your life bar no matter what you do at this point for instance, but it could be a problem if you're using a low level healer girl.

JSH has his Amaterasu up. I'm not sure if you added him or not.

Alright so 1. Get an ogre 2. Field low HP subs 3. Use JSH's amaterasu (I added everyone from the point I came into this thread on). That really works? Hax.


With Amaterasu you won't have to worry about the low hp sub thing. JSH's amatersau will heal you for almost 10k health every turn you match any 3 orbs. Just use whatever works with the leader skill or has the highest attack in your box.

On November 10 2015 09:54 jinyung2 wrote:
farming the 3rd dungeon of tower of giants is always an option.
your missing a good leader though.


Assuming he can get to Tier 5 with friend leader it'll more efficient to farm rank there than tower of giants.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 01:28:05
November 10 2015 01:16 GMT
#7249
ya thats true. i guess the whole ToG is kinda old school now huh?

jealous if you want you can try out my ronia right now with your cloud of dark. itll be a 1.5xHP/5x ATK/2.5x RCV team and my ronia is hypermaxed so you just use her leader skill to make the whole board only red and dark and do big bursts

edit: dam my osiris is 99 hp 99 atk and 69 rcv

always missing them rcv eggs ~_~
Argentina
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 10 2015 01:27 GMT
#7250
ah yea amaterasu,, the old dependable
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 03:00:41
November 10 2015 01:34 GMT
#7251
EDIT: Got the response, nuked the pictures.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:44:47
November 10 2015 02:33 GMT
#7252
On November 10 2015 09:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 09:53 Jealous wrote:
On November 10 2015 09:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
A zombie team is a leader that provide perseverance (ogre is the easiest farmable option). Then you get a friend leader with an autoheal leader skill (healer girl, Amaterasu, Odin(odin has a bunch of auto heal awokens, he doesn't have the leader skill like the others)). Perseverance prevents you from dying to a single attack as long as you're above 70% health. With the autoheal you'll be able to heal up past the threshold every turn assuming you only get attacked by one enemy.

For subs you typically use high attack low hitpoint monsters to maintain the threshold, but this might not require any additional effort depending on what friend you're using. If you have an Amaterasu friend you'll heal many times your life bar no matter what you do at this point for instance, but it could be a problem if you're using a low level healer girl.

JSH has his Amaterasu up. I'm not sure if you added him or not.

Alright so 1. Get an ogre 2. Field low HP subs 3. Use JSH's amaterasu (I added everyone from the point I came into this thread on). That really works? Hax.


With Amaterasu you won't have to worry about the low hp sub thing. JSH's amatersau will heal you for almost 10k health every turn you match any 3 orbs. Just use whatever works with the leader skill or has the highest attack in your box.

Alright, I'm giving it a go right now with a blue ogre, the light knight of lightning light, my light pixie, fire goblin, blue girl, and Amaterasu. So far she's definitely not healing me 10k every turn, more like 1.35k...

On November 10 2015 10:16 jinyung2 wrote:
ya thats true. i guess the whole ToG is kinda old school now huh?

jealous if you want you can try out my ronia right now with your cloud of dark. itll be a 1.5xHP/5x ATK/2.5x RCV team and my ronia is hypermaxed so you just use her leader skill to make the whole board only red and dark and do big bursts

edit: dam my osiris is 99 hp 99 atk and 69 rcv

always missing them rcv eggs ~_~


If Amaterasu doesn't work out, I'll try it this way!

Will keep you guys posted on my progress. LR gogo...

EDIT: First 5 stages, haven't been hit yet, so everything is going same as last time...

EDIT 2: Stage 6, Ogre got a hit off on me, this Amaterasu babe is certainly NOT healing me just for making 3 orbs in a row. I'm getting scared, hold me.

EDIT 3: Got to stage 9 without incident. Still no free healing power-no-jutsu. AMATERASU PLS
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:46:28
November 10 2015 02:42 GMT
#7253
On November 10 2015 10:34 Hesmyrr wrote:
Question about box management.
http://imgur.com/a/YeAo1

How should I go about cleaning up this box? I max leveled my party from recent dragon infestations and enhance REM event, so I'm kind of stuck unable to remove monsters via fusing.

Feed the following to Osiris or the Chocobo:
  • Super green king
  • All red kings
  • Maybe the blue king

Evolve a green pengdra (it uses a dragon plant). Feed it to someone.

Trash or fuse the following:
  • Red carbuncle
  • Red goblin
  • Yellow knight

Stop rolling the PEM. You should save those rolls for when evo materials comes back to the PEM imo.

Your next goal is to look for those evo materials to evo Osiris. Look at Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday dungeon.

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1663

Edit: My ID is 383880255 if anyone wants to add me, by the way. Running hypermax A.Bastet and Beel these days.

@Jealous: Are you sure you're using Amaterasu? Because that shit is a tried and true tactic. Take a screenshot.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:53:27
November 10 2015 02:51 GMT
#7254
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

The last wave before queen bitch...

Also, how the hell do those evo material monsters have so much damn HP? They certainly don't when I was using one as a dark sub in the beginning >_>
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 03:22:26
November 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#7255
I think Amatersu is actually on his BFF slot so you can't use it Didn't think about that earlier. You're using Awoken Yomi in that screenshot.

[image loading]

is what you're looking for. I should also mention that the full name is Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:57:56
November 10 2015 02:54 GMT
#7256
On November 10 2015 11:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I think Amatersu is actually on his BFF slot so you can't use it Didn't think about that earlier. You're using Awoken Yomi in that screenshot.

What's that?

I coulda sworn I saw it say "Amaterasu" >_>

EDIT: Two minions down... Now it's just me vs. her... and her 3000 pound megapunch... T-T;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
November 10 2015 02:58 GMT
#7257
Amaterasu is cuter

By the way, "Palace of Satan" is Castle of Satan? If so Awoken Yumi should still deal enough dmg with her Leader skill, though I guess you are disadvantage with the whole zombie composition.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
November 10 2015 02:58 GMT
#7258
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2325

thats what your using
Argentina
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 10 2015 03:01 GMT
#7259
On November 10 2015 11:54 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 11:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I think Amatersu is actually on his BFF slot so you can't use it Didn't think about that earlier. You're using Awoken Yomi in that screenshot.

What's that?


You will be awarded a best friend at some rank; maybe 50 maybe 80 (google exact if you care). Their PAL points get upgraded to 100 per day, you can use three of their leaders instead of only two and you have access to them for 24 hours instead of the normal amount of time. JSH is one of my best friends so I can use three of his leaders.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10268 Posts
November 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#7260
We're both down to 50% HP... This Yumi chick isn't punching as hard as I thought she would but we're still getting through this. My knight is about to fire his laser a second time (first one almost took out a minion dragon). I guess what I made the mistake of doing the first time around was trying to kill the big boss first.

Time to combo some HP and get on top of this.

WOAH OH my god if my Naruto fanboyism got in the way and saw Tsukuyomi and thought "THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO AMATERASU RITE" and picked her because of that... T_T;
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