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On July 14 2013 05:34 cekkmt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:31 Ognam wrote:On July 14 2013 05:27 YoungTyTy wrote:
Can somebody who knows explain how Wobbling works. Why is it able to chain like that? Ice-climbers can be "de-synched" through a few different ways so that each one attacks on a slight delay from the other. If you grab someone while they are de-synched, you can just chain grab attacks. Specifically (ICs main) melee characters when grab have a grab attack (done by Popo) but since Nana exists nana cna also attack while Popo is grabbed. So when you have grabbed with Popo you have to grab hit forward/down tilt at around 200 BPM and they can't get out. Usually though if the enemy is under 30ish% they can mach out before the wobbling starts.
Yeah, most people don't actually try to mash out at all. It's totally worth it, rather than sacrificing your stock with a pause or. At KoC2 Wobbles actually dropped a few grabs to people mashing; it was pretty surprising.
EDIT: lol at S2J's backward ass grab on Armada when it was 3 stocks to 1. Falcon's grab range is actually so shit that you can grab people behind you kekeke
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On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.
oh that was the grabbed guy pausing
i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick
is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?
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On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?
only if they're synced
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Just started tuning in to today's action, can anyone give me a quick list of shit that's gone down today? Watched yesterday just to clarify.
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On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock? only if they're synced
Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.
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On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock? only if they're synced Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.
Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up.
However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something).
We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo
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I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast
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On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock? only if they're synced Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal. Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up. However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something). We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo
LOL removed from the game. 
Dude, did you know that the freeze glitch is/used to be legal in Japan???? When I heard that I was like what the fuck.
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On July 14 2013 05:48 NPF wrote:
I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast
I suspect a lot of the Japanese watchers are using the niconico stream; unsure how much that number would increase by, but something to consider.
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On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock? only if they're synced Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal. Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up. However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something). We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo
why jiggs and ic? they're fine. don't get grabbed and learn to play vs jiggs. only argument you could make for banning them since they aren't blatantly overpowered like fuckin metaknight in ssbb is that they aren't fun to watch, which could be debatable.
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On July 14 2013 05:48 NPF wrote:
I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast
Over 100k only tomorrow i believe, or maybe lataer tonight.
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On July 14 2013 05:50 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works
seems like these fighting games are ruleless In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with. oh that was the grabbed guy pausing i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock? only if they're synced Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal. Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up. However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something). We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo why jiggs and ic? they're fine. don't get grabbed and learn to play vs jiggs. only argument you could make for banning them since they aren't blatantly overpowered like fuckin metaknight in ssbb is that they aren't fun to watch, which could be debatable.
Don't care about watching but they aren't fun to play vs at all. Melee is amazing fun to play in most matchups but after like 3 casuals vs ICs or jigglypuff I just go find another player to play against... If I wanted to do nothing but space with single hits the whole game and have the games last twice as long as normal I'd play SSBB
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Wow, Mango and Sfat putting the hurt on each other. Sick match.
LOL phantom bair to close it out. STYLE.
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This by the way is probably the most stacked losers' bracket ever wth >_>
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EPT
