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Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:37:57
July 13 2013 20:36 GMT
#1361
On July 14 2013 05:34 cekkmt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:31 Ognam wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:27 YoungTyTy wrote:
Can somebody who knows explain how Wobbling works. Why is it able to chain like that?

Ice-climbers can be "de-synched" through a few different ways so that each one attacks on a slight delay from the other. If you grab someone while they are de-synched, you can just chain grab attacks.

Specifically (ICs main) melee characters when grab have a grab attack (done by Popo) but since Nana exists nana cna also attack while Popo is grabbed. So when you have grabbed with Popo you have to grab hit forward/down tilt at around 200 BPM and they can't get out. Usually though if the enemy is under 30ish% they can mach out before the wobbling starts.

Yeah, most people don't actually try to mash out at all. It's totally worth it, rather than sacrificing your stock with a pause or. At KoC2 Wobbles actually dropped a few grabs to people mashing; it was pretty surprising.

EDIT: lol at S2J's backward ass grab on Armada when it was 3 stocks to 1. Falcon's grab range is actually so shit that you can grab people behind you kekeke
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 13 2013 20:39 GMT
#1362
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 13 2013 20:39 GMT
#1363
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 13 2013 20:40 GMT
#1364
Just started tuning in to today's action, can anyone give me a quick list of shit that's gone down today? Watched yesterday just to clarify.
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
July 13 2013 20:43 GMT
#1365
3v3 ST Tourney starting soon @ http://www.twitch.tv/iebattlegrounds
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 13 2013 20:44 GMT
#1366
On July 14 2013 05:40 DystopiaX wrote:
Just started tuning in to today's action, can anyone give me a quick list of shit that's gone down today? Watched yesterday just to clarify.

Most of the results get posted here
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jul/12/evo-2013-tournament-live-stream-and-early-results-featuring-daigo-infiltration-chris-g-justin-wong-fuudo-tokido-xian-and-many-many-more/
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
July 13 2013 20:45 GMT
#1367
On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced

Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#1368
On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced

Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.

Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up.

However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something).


We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
July 13 2013 20:48 GMT
#1369
I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
July 13 2013 20:49 GMT
#1370
On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced

Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.

Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up.

However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something).


We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo

LOL removed from the game.
Dude, did you know that the freeze glitch is/used to be legal in Japan???? When I heard that I was like what the fuck.
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
July 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#1371
On July 14 2013 05:48 NPF wrote:
I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast


I suspect a lot of the Japanese watchers are using the niconico stream; unsure how much that number would increase by, but something to consider.
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#1372
On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced

Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.

Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up.

However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something).


We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo


why jiggs and ic? they're fine. don't get grabbed and learn to play vs jiggs. only argument you could make for banning them since they aren't blatantly overpowered like fuckin metaknight in ssbb is that they aren't fun to watch, which could be debatable.
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
July 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#1373
On July 14 2013 05:48 NPF wrote:
I'm really surprised there is only 90k views for Evo right now, I'd think there would be over 100k atleast

Over 100k only tomorrow i believe, or maybe lataer tonight.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:52:44
July 13 2013 20:52 GMT
#1374
edit- nvm
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:54:52
July 13 2013 20:53 GMT
#1375
.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#1376
On July 14 2013 05:50 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 05:47 Shikyo wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:45 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 shawster wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:39 Denzil wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:34 Shebuha wrote:
On July 14 2013 05:33 Denzil wrote:
can someone explain how the pause grabbing works

seems like these fighting games are ruleless

In most rulesets if you pause during a match that stock is forfeit, so Mango paused a couple times during the wobble so he could just get the stock over with.


oh that was the grabbed guy pausing

i thought the ice climber guy was just being a dick

is ice climbers grab essentially gg on a stock?


only if they're synced

Yeah, plus you can sometimes mash out if the ICs mess up. Wobbling is kinda lame since you can't escape, but a lot of characters have chain grabs on other characters, so whatever. I'm in favor of it being banned just because it's almost always a free stock, and ICs have so many sick grab combos that you don't get to see when wobbling is legal.

Yup you can only mash out if the ICs mess up.

However you can mash out at the start at really low % unless the ICs are perfectly synched at the beginning which pretty much never happens(usually Nana needs to dash in a little bit first or something).


We always have wobbling banned in tournaments and I personally think it's bullshit but they have a different infinite anyway so doesn't really make a difference, ICs should be removed from the game along with jigglypuff imo


why jiggs and ic? they're fine. don't get grabbed and learn to play vs jiggs. only argument you could make for banning them since they aren't blatantly overpowered like fuckin metaknight in ssbb is that they aren't fun to watch, which could be debatable.

Don't care about watching but they aren't fun to play vs at all. Melee is amazing fun to play in most matchups but after like 3 casuals vs ICs or jigglypuff I just go find another player to play against... If I wanted to do nothing but space with single hits the whole game and have the games last twice as long as normal I'd play SSBB
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ognam
Profile Joined October 2011
United States798 Posts
July 13 2013 20:57 GMT
#1377
That was sick.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 20:59:41
July 13 2013 20:57 GMT
#1378
Wow, Mango and Sfat putting the hurt on each other. Sick match.

LOL phantom bair to close it out. STYLE.
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
July 13 2013 20:59 GMT
#1379
Pineaple!
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#1380
This by the way is probably the most stacked losers' bracket ever wth >_>
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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