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Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 07:09:39
June 14 2013 07:09 GMT
#81
On June 13 2013 22:56 Brett wrote:
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On June 13 2013 22:54 Kokosaft wrote:
very informative op! thanks a lot.

did anyone find the measurements of the ps4 yet? (I checked amazon, but they don't have them).

Looks like it has roughly the size of the ps3 at release.

This might help you:

+ Show Spoiler +
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thanks!

the ps4 is actually not that big, while the xbone is even bigger than i thought...
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 07:17:25
June 14 2013 07:15 GMT
#82
On June 14 2013 11:59 Infernal_dream wrote:
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On June 14 2013 11:59 mjxn wrote:
The Australian price is disgusting.

It's cheaper to get express shipping from Amazon then to buy it from the shops. Is there any information about possible regions?


There are no regions for PS4. You can buy from Amazon and they will ship it to you for 15 dollars. So you pay the 400 american USD + 15 cash and whatever taxes (import and so on) probably cheaper overall.


i don't know how it works in your country, but here we have to bring the invoice to the toll and then they add our taxes on top of it, which makes it more expensive than buying it regionally in the first place.

they don't check every package though, but i bet the chances of getting your package checked are higher, when its console sized and not dvd/bluray sized.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 07:27:22
June 14 2013 07:23 GMT
#83
On June 14 2013 15:59 Snoopy91 wrote:
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On June 14 2013 15:54 Caphe wrote:
On June 14 2013 15:51 FromShouri wrote:
On June 14 2013 15:40 Caphe wrote:
No point comparing graphic between console and PC, Console will be beat in term of graphic within a year of its release since its a fixed machine without possible of upgrade.
Why console still exist and flourish is the style of gaming it bring. You can game with your PC, but there are alot games will be much more enjoy able when you laid back on your couch and play it on your TV. The controllers are also a big part of console experience.
PC as powerful as it is, still has its limit in term of game presentation.


Not to start this up again like in the xbox thread, but i can do all of that on my pc with a controller if i want. The only thing that the console has an "edge" on would be individual franchises. But thats a personal taste and cant be used to effectively score one side or the other.

Yeah you are right. But for me nothing can beat playing RPG alone or playing sports games with my friends in my living room and console is the flatform for that kind of activity. Its just feel natural just like playing SC2 on a computer, I refuse to play any kind of RTS games on console.


Even Starcraft for N64?

Sadly I dont own a N64. But I used to like play Red Alert on my PS1

On June 14 2013 16:15 Kokosaft wrote:
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On June 14 2013 11:59 Infernal_dream wrote:
On June 14 2013 11:59 mjxn wrote:
The Australian price is disgusting.

It's cheaper to get express shipping from Amazon then to buy it from the shops. Is there any information about possible regions?


There are no regions for PS4. You can buy from Amazon and they will ship it to you for 15 dollars. So you pay the 400 american USD + 15 cash and whatever taxes (import and so on) probably cheaper overall.


i don't know how it works in your country, but here we have to bring the invoice to the toll and then they add our taxes on top of it, which makes it more expensive than buying it regionally in the first place.

they don't check every package though, but i bet the chances of getting your package checked are higher, when its console sized and not dvd/bluray sized.

Everyone knows that you can import your console from the US. But how does that exactly work, noone knows at this point, just like you point out. If you have to pay tax at custom it might ended up more expensive than 399 Euro.
My suggestion is wait untill release, I am sure other people will import it, see how that goes and decide for yourself.
Another problem, PS4 is region free, but does it have worldwide guarantee? I mean if you import your console from the US and later it break down, will the customer services at Sony EU fix it for you or you have to mail it back to the US to fix?
Terran
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
June 14 2013 11:33 GMT
#84
If you import from the US you save about $20, some guy a few days ago sorted it all out on another site. You WILL pay tax at customs, and it's a lot for something like that usually.

If you don't mind waiting another 1-4 weeks to save $20 then you may as well do it.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
June 14 2013 12:06 GMT
#85
All depends on where you live and your local import laws. Aussies can save a good $100 by importing. Worthwhile if you don't mind waiting.
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
June 14 2013 13:08 GMT
#86
Oh yeah, if you're an Aussie or from NZ then you can probably save a load. For most of Europe though the difference is almost negligible. I haven't heard from anyone who lives outside of those places but they'd have to work it out to their own currency.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
June 14 2013 13:24 GMT
#87
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 14 2013 13:30 GMT
#88
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 14 2013 13:32 GMT
#89
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.

Yeah, Fifa sells very well, even more before when there were no good alternatives. (Now there's Pro evolution soccer etc). But yeah, just like madden sells well in the US and not at all here, soccer games sell really well here.
LXenJin
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore293 Posts
June 14 2013 13:36 GMT
#90
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.


Yeap, it is popular outside the US. I guess you could compare it with Madden for the US(Tbh nvr met anyone who played Madden over here)
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
June 14 2013 13:37 GMT
#91
On June 14 2013 22:32 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.

Yeah, Fifa sells very well, even more before when there were no good alternatives. (Now there's Pro evolution soccer etc). But yeah, just like madden sells well in the US and not at all here, soccer games sell really well here.


Yep, I'll second that.

In the UK most guys you wouldn't necessarily consider "gamers" but own a console probably own FIFA / CoD etc
I don't own them myself but they do make for a good multi-player game, have a few drinks with some mates and play some FIFA before heading out to town or something a long those lines.
I imagine its like Madden games, which I assume sell well in the states, although in the UK I can't say I know anyone who owns them.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 14 2013 13:37 GMT
#92
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412704

FIFA thread too
Has list of PS3/Xbox/PC gamer ids too and thats just from TL. Its hugely popular the reason they milk it every season xD

I never played FIFA on a playstation 2 though, not played a playstation until playstation 2 either. WIll be interesting to pick it up again. Im sure the controller will take some time to get used to as it looks like a pile of crap >.<
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 14 2013 13:48 GMT
#93
Well, for me and most guys in Asia its Winning Eleven(PES), first on PS1 they were the best but coming to PS3 Winning Eleven just isnt that great. I still play it as my main soccer game though since all of my friends don't want to switch to Fifa so I'll just have to stick with them.
Terran
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
June 14 2013 17:19 GMT
#94
On June 14 2013 12:08 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 12:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
On June 14 2013 11:59 Infernal_dream wrote:
On June 14 2013 11:59 mjxn wrote:
The Australian price is disgusting.

It's cheaper to get express shipping from Amazon then to buy it from the shops. Is there any information about possible regions?


There are no regions for PS4. You can buy from Amazon and they will ship it to you for 15 dollars. So you pay the 400 american USD + 15 cash and whatever taxes (import and so on) probably cheaper overall.


probably wont work like that.


Except it does work like that and Amazon has said this multiple times.


they said Ps3 was region free too and the result was that you couldn't watch bluerays with an imported console. They say lots of stuff, it is a PR war right now it could work just fine but the chance that something won't work is not that small.
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
June 14 2013 17:29 GMT
#95
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.

Fifa is the next big thing in eSport. People buy it every year, it sells better than CoD and the only problem is that not many of them play it online.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 18:10:17
June 14 2013 17:51 GMT
#96
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.


FIFA is THE multilayer game, outside of us.

i used to play so much during my college days with my korean friends before they went back...i tried getting a few of my american friends to play but none of them want to T.T

so i had no choice to play online, then i noticed EA cuts off all previous fifa games when new ones release T.T

i wish konami improves winning11 so i can be less dependent on EA.
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
June 14 2013 18:05 GMT
#97
On June 14 2013 22:30 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 22:24 pyro19 wrote:
Thank God for R2 and L2 Changes.
They made me wanna kill myself when playing FIFA


It never occurred to me that people play soccer video games. This is going to sound random, but is FIFA really popular outside of the US like the actual sport is? I've literally never met someone who plays FIFA here.


I wouldn't be suprised if Fifa was the most selling sport game to be honest. On the global scale, soccer is the most popular sport after all.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 14 2013 18:09 GMT
#98
Don't really want one yet due to no interest in currently projected title, but I'll be pre-ordering 2-3 just in case they sell out in stores and start going for 5-6k on ebay like the ps3 did.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12763 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 18:15:38
June 14 2013 18:14 GMT
#99
On June 14 2013 15:02 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 14:37 Infernal_dream wrote:
On June 14 2013 14:32 rezoacken wrote:
On June 14 2013 14:24 DPK wrote:
There's something I really don't get in the specs section. Can someone tell me how the console supposed to use 8 gig of GDDR memory? GDDR memory is for graphics cards, is the system sharing the same ram for the graphics and the system? Or they just made a mistake and called their ram GDDR when its only DDR? If so, what about the total ram available for the GPU?


They call it unified memory so maybe its shared between cpu and gpu or something ?


The PS4, in comparison, has an 8-core Jaguar AMD CPU, with a GPU that’s around the same level as the Radeon 7870 (which is significantly more powerful than the 7790). The PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, providing 176GB/s of bandwidth to both the CPU and GPU. The Xbox One mostly ameliorates this difference with 32MB of high-speed SRAM on the GPU, but it will be a more complex architecture to take advantage of.

The ram goes to both. In both systems.

Basically 3 gigs is reserved (If i remember correctly) for non gaming purposes and the other 5 are for the GPU's. The numbers could be wrong but that's how it works.


If its only as powerful as a 7870 then most pc gamers are still ahead of the curve and have little to no reason to upgrade. Shame all my friends kept telling me current pc specs would skyrocket but i just seriously doubt that.

next gen consoles never beat high end PC graphics power, but how many PC games really make use of maximum power of the top hardware anyway.
The next gen console will boost up the general level of multiplatform games graphic and maybe last year's high end PC graphics card can finally be put to use to maximum potential other than just some PC games.

This should be what gamers care about, not setting maximum graphics but more on the general quality of the graphics because not every game is crysis level.
Now I just hope AI and physics (such as character's walking weighting feel) will get improved in this gen, too many games have their character walking like they are ice skating

Anyway, I am probably gonna get one, MGS5 alone is enough of a reason to get it. Sony first party exclusive have so many choices that I am not that worried
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
June 14 2013 19:22 GMT
#100
Oh i knew that but i figured it would of at least required something stronger then a 3 year old pc. Even before i upgraded to 16gigs ram. I guess i was just getting excited because i might of had a reason to upgrade my rig haha. But its one of those things were the average graphics will go up like you said more so then me being blown away from graphics. I can still remember how fucking amazing it was to go from snes to n64 to gamecube to ps2. I mean of course ihad similar 2d games on pc like sc and d1/2 but i didnt get a decent gaming pc till around ps2 so i was very happy to see comparable graphics levels. But even after all that the current pc specs are only getting better and better while im not too impressed by the xbox or ps4 just feel like it doesnt jump as far as i was hoping i guess after all that rambling.
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