"I went to ESDF because it has more buttons around than WASD. Now it feels normal."

Yeah I tried out ESDF too but...I know this is going to sound weird...my wrist started hurting. I don't know what the deal was, maybe it was the weapon hotkeys I was using around them, but my wrist and fingers were really starting to hurt. I switched back to ASDW and have been feeling fine since. IMO, though, ESDF does have more keys and is thus a bit of a better layout. WHAT ABOUT RDFG, THOUGH? More pinky keys - which means less taking your movement fingers off their keys.

"Care to explain why? :S"

It was just...bad. I saw a demo of high level competitive play and it was really lame. They'd run around in a circle switching from sword to gun over and over and over and shooting occasionally. It was nothing more than that at all, and it was just really lame to watch. The whole walking on walls function is pretty neat I guess but I just never liked the game much at all. When you hit somoene, it never really felt right like you were hitting them well, and overall the game was just bad. I uninstalled it pretty quickly so I can't think of any other reasons as to why I didn't like it at the moment. :|

"quoted for truth"

Oh for a second I thought it meant "Quit Fucking Talking" due to my excessive replies. Haha.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

June 29 2006 08:37 GMT

#33

Ah but Milktoast, the switch thing you saw actually has a point. It's a korean game so naturally the koreans are.. unnaturally good at it

Anyway, I never played it much BUT I did try to learn some of the stuff.. Anyway, you change weapons around so that you can move and shoot at the same time without losing speed or something? Can't remember exactly.

Anyway, I remember watching some good korean player's demos; one where he showed different techniques and one where he used them to win 1 vs 5 or something lol. Was kinda art even tho he was playing lower level guys IIRC.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32278 Posts

June 29 2006 09:03 GMT

#34

On June 29 2006 17:00 MiLktoast wrote:
"Care to explain why? :S"

It was just...bad. I saw a demo of high level competitive play and it was really lame. They'd run around in a circle switching from sword to gun over and over and over and shooting occasionally. It was nothing more than that at all, and it was just really lame to watch. The whole walking on walls function is pretty neat I guess but I just never liked the game much at all. When you hit somoene, it never really felt right like you were hitting them well, and overall the game was just bad. I uninstalled it pretty quickly so I can't think of any other reasons as to why I didn't like it at the moment. :|

Maybe the replay you saw was sucky.

But yes, you must do all that stuff to stay alive, just like you bunny hop in natural selection or you die, or you use bugs in Quake II.

Those change from gun to sword, is also a bug, it allow you to minimize the time you are shotting and not coevring with a sword.

Next time when you state something try to be informed. :/

Eatme

Switzerland3919 Posts

June 29 2006 09:07 GMT

#35

On June 29 2006 02:41 MiLktoast wrote:

Wow. I can't believe you use those keys for movement. I've heard of people that used to play with really fucked up keys, and they had to practice for a few days before they got used to the now standard ASDW style. I'm afraid you're on your own for this one - you can search around forums and whatnot for a solution or you can try to get used to the normal way. For the record, the people who tried to get used to the normal style haven't regretted it and were very comfortable after the initial frustration.

Why is it so hard to believe? It was after all the standard keys for most early fps. Also there are not like they should be any different or worse than any other config since they are all close together ect. Only downside is that they dont seem to work for a few games. I'm not changing keys just for one game, I rather dont play it.
I used to love when the cs kids mocked my config on lans and I challenged them in quake and won by 15 vs -5 on dm2. Havent played for like 4 years now, just a sidenote.

EDIT:Cant get any fast mouse sense. Can you set that manually in some way?

EDIT2:Oh and alt+gr shows up as ctrl and nothing else. And my problem when backing is that my aim freezes and nothinge else. Got everything mixed up ect.

tec27

United States3702 Posts

June 29 2006 09:15 GMT

#36

On June 29 2006 18:07 Eatme wrote:
EDIT:Cant get any fast mouse sense. Can you set that manually in some way?

There's probably a console setting, but also, in the options under controller (IIRC) there's a mouse speed setting.

MiLktoast

United States257 Posts

June 29 2006 09:36 GMT

#37

On June 29 2006 18:07 Eatme wrote:

Show nested quote +

First of all, being able to beat CS kids at Quake is hardly an accomplishment at ALL. AT ALL. If you've played Quake for more than a week and you can't manage to beat a CS kid you would have to be a quadriplegic. It's beyond easy. Btw, I've beaten people who've been pretty good at other deathmatch and Quake games on Quake 1 by scores of 51 to -2 easily. Any time you play someone on a deathmatch game who doesn't have much experience with that game's movement/weapons/maps, you can pretty much guarantee you're going to destroy them. It's nothing to brag about, really.

Now, there's a reason that 99% of all the top players for all FPS games (I'm only saying 99% because I've never even heard of a top player using oldschool , . for strafing, but I'm going to assume that there might be a few who do) use the ASDW style. It's because the ASDW format is best. (ASDW meaning ring finger on A, middle on W and S, and pointer on D, and this format also applies to other configs like ESDF, RDFG, etc.).

What you're probably going to have to do is get a program called AutoHotKey and make a script that rebinds the keys on your keyboard that you use for strafing to ASDW so that you can still play with your weird strafing format without having to deal with any problems ingame. I can't be arsed to figure all this out for you, so if you want to play Warsow you'll have to do a little research by yourself.

As for changing the sensitivity ingame, there is indeed a section of the menu that allows you to change the sensitivity, but you can also do it with the console command "sensitivity (number here)".

GLHF

Lisk

Latvia376 Posts

June 30 2006 00:00 GMT

#38

I've beaten q2 players in warsow (30:-1) but I'm sure they can rape me in q2, so nothing to brag about.
/sensitivity
/m_pitch (vertical)
/m_yaw (horiz)
/m_accel
/m_filter
Also I have my pinky on shift/ctrl and RDFG is too much pinky stretching.

jacen

Austria3644 Posts

June 30 2006 03:03 GMT

#39

On June 30 2006 09:00 Lisk wrote:
I've beaten q2 players in warsow (30:-1) but I'm sure they can rape me in q2, so nothing to brag about.

q2 is nothing like warsow

warsow is more like qw, pk and q3cpma

q2 and q3 are much more limited in terms of movement, so its likely that q2 and q3 players are not that good in warsow