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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 13 2013 02:23 karpotoss wrote: Thx for the answer but then what? Do you go to some microsoft place to rewive it or what? Not sure if trolling... just connect it to the internet and gaming will work again. Repeat the same step within the next 24 hours to keep it working. So no way you can take your console to your summer/winter house or on a trip etc... | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
It's an unnecessary hassle but there you go. And yes I know it's not an option for everybody. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
http://www.viddler.com/v/944416f2 ps4 playroom | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On June 13 2013 02:34 Djzapz wrote: If your home internet connection goes out and you have a phone with some type of internet connection and it can serve as a hotspot, I assume you could technically just connect wirelessly with your phone's tethering, have your xbox ping the microsoft servers to "reactivate" it. It's an unnecessary hassle but there you go. And yes I know it's not an option for everybody. Probably an option for plenty of people though. I don't have a smartphone myself, but of my friends probably 9/10 has one. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 13 2013 02:55 jinorazi wrote: this is kinda cool/cute http://www.viddler.com/v/944416f2 ps4 playroom Wow, this is cool. Thank you! | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On June 12 2013 21:44 paralleluniverse wrote: Microsoft doesn't set the prices, but Microsoft can set rules about what types of prices can be charged on their shop. Obviously making pricing rules usually introduces market inefficiencies. But they can also help with inertia and menu costs (i.e. developers may feel that there's a cost to changing prices). Given the major backlash against Microsoft, I think Microsoft can easily compete on game prices to win back customers, because the restriction on resale should allow developers to charge lower prices relative to what they would charge without these restrictions, i.e. on the PS4. I'm pretty sure cloud computing will play an important part in the future of games. I don't buy your complaint of overload. WoW doesn't overload. Well, it use to when it launched, but not for several years now. It's obviously critical for MMOs or persistent worlds. It can be used to simulate player actions for AIs. And it can be used to collect data about the game or the people playing the game to enable better game design. Microsoft understands this is important, they're buying 300K servers. Sony isn't. Microsoft's move with Xbox One is quite visionary (although not visionary enough for my liking). Sony, on the other hand, isn't moving forward. The PS4 is basically the PS3 with better graphics (the PS3 is basically PS2 with better graphics). MS doesnt set prices, and neither does Sony. This means developers are pushing for $60/pop. If MS implements a rule for devs and the devs go by it instead of abandoning the console, then why couldnt Sony follow suit? I dont buy any argument on cloud computing. I gave WoW as an example of cloud computing, but that is a single highly optimized game built specifically for their server architecture. And even still with 20k servers it keeps track of VERY little data and does not do calculations that enhance gameplay. With 20k servers it merely allows the game to exist. What 20k WoW servers do: Keeps track of player information (health/armor/damage etc) Does random rolls within a range (for dmg to/from mobs) for all rolls that are hits Tracks the location of a player and a monster and measures the distance between them if an ability is used So basically just a database of player information that is updated, random rolls, (x,y) coordinate and the distance formula. It takes 20k servers to do just that for 12 million people. If you add more complexity, it gets way harder. Adding in volumetric lighting and all the other lighting effects makes it WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more complex. Shadows, lighting and other very small details take an enormous amount of processing in comparison to locations and distances. Having all of that stuff also introduces priority issues and sorting issues. Say one game using the cloud and an MMO on the same cloud. Much of the stuff in the MMO needs to be fairly quick, so do you let the lighting calculations finish or do you interrupt them to let the MMO do its stuff? How do you shift the priority and handle that? What about if you are playing a singleplayer game that uses the cloud and your internet drops out for 15 seconds? Do you get disconnected? Do the graphics end up looking terrible? There are just so many insane variables involved that I dont see how you can boost the actual power of the xbone through cloud computing. It has uses, yes... but not for power or graphics. | ||
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EsportsMonkey
United States6 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On June 13 2013 03:32 EsportsMonkey wrote: Thanks for the input Klondikebar and Caphe. Sorry kinda new in this forum, but where's the commend button or thanks button for helpful posts/replies. There's none. And I'm happy for it, people should read rather than go to the one who won the popularity contest. On June 12 2013 21:32 vidium wrote: I dont understand this exclusive title mumbo jumbo. Why would you gimp your sales to half of the market(or a third is you count in PC) by going just on one platform? Do those guys at Ms or Sony dobule the money you get from selling only on their platfom? They do it to sell more consoles. What an exclusive lose in sales for being restricted to one machine, Sony/Microsoft hopes it will compensate by sales in machines which will create more sales on the same machine. On June 13 2013 02:27 Caphe wrote: Not sure if trolling... just connect it to the internet and gaming will work again. Repeat the same step within the next 24 hours to keep it working. So no way you can take your console to your summer/winter house or on a trip etc... Reminds me of another forum where MANY people thought that if you didn't connect for 24h your XBone became a brick FOREVER. Obviously its stupid but hey it certainly show how misinformed some can be. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On June 13 2013 03:54 rezoacken wrote: There's none. And I'm happy for it, people should read rather than go to the one who won the popularity contest. They do it to sell more consoles. What an exclusive lose in sales for being restricted to one machine, Sony/Microsoft hopes it will compensate by sales in machines which will create more sales on the same machine. Reminds me of another forum where MANY people thought that if you didn't connect for 24h your XBone became a brick FOREVER. Obviously its stupid but hey it certainly show how misinformed some can be. Maybe they thought it had a battery like the ones in electric cars where if it depletes entirely it becomes a brick and the only way to recharge it is through the internet. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:04 TheRabidDeer wrote: Maybe they thought it had a battery like the ones in electric cars where if it depletes entirely it becomes a brick and the only way to recharge it is through the internet. No they literally believed that once you cannot connect for 24h your console is locked even if you reconnect. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:12 rezoacken wrote: No they literally believed that once you cannot connect for 24h your console is locked even if you reconnect. It was a joke  | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:12 rezoacken wrote: No they literally believed that once you cannot connect for 24h your console is locked even if you reconnect. Well, they must be some unlucky Xbox360 owners that got their console break down so often that they fear for their life with the XBoxOne too  .Something like more than 50% Xbox360 has some kind of problems while the number for PS3 was like more than 10%. I've heard that there are people that went thru their 3rd Xbox360 already...thats quite something. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:12 rezoacken wrote: No they literally believed that once you cannot connect for 24h your console is locked even if you reconnect. In their defense Microsoft has done a pretty abysmal job of explaining their DRM and "features." I personally think that's by design but I've got this new super stylish tinfoil hat that I love to wear. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:26 Klondikebar wrote: In their defense Microsoft has done a pretty abysmal job of explaining their DRM and "features." I personally think that's by design but I've got this new super stylish tinfoil hat that I love to wear. Yeah I have said it before, MS's PR department really screwed the pooch. Either that or they didn't have anything else good to explain. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:36 takingbackoj wrote: They are going to be on both systems Square stopped being very exclusive to playstation sense PS2 days btw and it's proven due to XIII and subsequent games.Ok so I was looking through gamespot and came across a "battle of the exclusives" video. FF (the PS4 game that really caught my eye) and KH (a series I have never played before) weren't listed as PS4 exclusives. Does anyone know if they will be on Xbox One as well? | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:36 takingbackoj wrote: Ok so I was looking through gamespot and came across a "battle of the exclusives" video. FF (the PS4 game that really caught my eye) and KH (a series I have never played before) weren't listed as PS4 exclusives. Does anyone know if they will be on Xbox One as well? Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:49 Klondikebar wrote: Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games. I believe it was confirmed yesterday at E3 (maybe Slasher) that both a multi-platform. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:49 Klondikebar wrote: Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games. It has been confirmed that both games will be multi-platforms, so they are coming to PS4 and XboxOne. But I am not worried about PS4's exclusives though, they got teams that make God of War, Gran Turisimo, Uncharted, The last of us. So there is no doubt we will see some new exclusives IP for PS4 in the future. MS on the other hand, had Bungie, but since they left...they only got 3rd party exclusives now which cost a shitton of money and might still be ported while the contract is over(in case of Bioshock etc..) | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 13 2013 04:26 Klondikebar wrote: In their defense Microsoft has done a pretty abysmal job of explaining their DRM and "features." I personally think that's by design but I've got this new super stylish tinfoil hat that I love to wear. Yeah i mean the thing about MS is if they could reasonably explain their DRM, required Kinect and the rest of the features people don't like . Why don't they even try to talk about them completely open ? They put it out quietly on their website and cancel all the press events where they could get critical questions ? They apparently know they can't reasonably explain alot of the stuff so they try to sweep it under the rug so people forget it / or won't notice them. That just makes them look guilty . | ||
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