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On June 13 2013 04:49 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 04:36 takingbackoj wrote:
Ok so I was looking through gamespot and came across a "battle of the exclusives" video. FF (the PS4 game that really caught my eye) and KH (a series I have never played before) weren't listed as PS4 exclusives. Does anyone know if they will be on Xbox One as well? Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games.
Its too early to tell I suppose but FF XV looked amazing and a bit different from them past few FF games. I would like to see a bit more of it though.
Since this is an Xbox thread I want to get you guys' take on this statement from MS marketing man Yusef Mehdi.
It’s a “family” affair
Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.
For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.
You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.
I don't remember hearing this during their presser and for the life of me can't figure out why they would leave that out. Maybe they wanted to wait and see gamers reactions then decide on whether to implement it or not? Seems like a pretty big deal as long as its free (outside of a live membership).
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On June 13 2013 05:02 takingbackoj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 04:49 Klondikebar wrote:On June 13 2013 04:36 takingbackoj wrote:
Ok so I was looking through gamespot and came across a "battle of the exclusives" video. FF (the PS4 game that really caught my eye) and KH (a series I have never played before) weren't listed as PS4 exclusives. Does anyone know if they will be on Xbox One as well? Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games. Its too early to tell I suppose but FF XV looked amazing and a bit different from them past few FF games. I would like to see a bit more of it though. Since this is an Xbox thread I want to get you guys' take on this statement from MS marketing man Yusef Mehdi. It’s a “family” affair
Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.
For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.
You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.I don't remember hearing this during their presser and for the life of me can't figure out why they would leave that out. Maybe they wanted to wait and see gamers reactions then decide on whether to implement it or not? Seems like a pretty big deal as long as its free (outside of a live membership).
My guess is that backlash has pressured them to make this feature less and less restrictive. At this point it's not any damn different than just passing a disc around except it's still saddled with all the other pathetic DRM. They made this massive push to move away from discs and go all digital and now they're being forced to set up this system to mimic discs...someone at Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that reinventing the wheel as a square with rounded edges isn't innovative.
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On June 13 2013 05:07 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 05:02 takingbackoj wrote:On June 13 2013 04:49 Klondikebar wrote:On June 13 2013 04:36 takingbackoj wrote:
Ok so I was looking through gamespot and came across a "battle of the exclusives" video. FF (the PS4 game that really caught my eye) and KH (a series I have never played before) weren't listed as PS4 exclusives. Does anyone know if they will be on Xbox One as well? Very likely they will be. FF almost definitely since FFXIII was. Kingdom Hearts is also very likely. Which makes me happy. The PS4 is a very obvious decision for me but the more people that get into the Kingdom Hearts series, the more pressure Squeenix will have to quit making shitty FF hallway simulators and to actually make good games. Its too early to tell I suppose but FF XV looked amazing and a bit different from them past few FF games. I would like to see a bit more of it though. Since this is an Xbox thread I want to get you guys' take on this statement from MS marketing man Yusef Mehdi. It’s a “family” affair
Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.
For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.
You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.I don't remember hearing this during their presser and for the life of me can't figure out why they would leave that out. Maybe they wanted to wait and see gamers reactions then decide on whether to implement it or not? Seems like a pretty big deal as long as its free (outside of a live membership). My guess is that backlash has pressured them to make this feature less and less restrictive. At this point it's not any damn different than just passing a disc around except it's still saddled with all the other pathetic DRM. They made this massive push to move away from discs and go all digital and now they're being forced to set up this system to mimic discs...someone at Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that reinventing the wheel as a square with rounded edges isn't innovative.
I figured the same. It was probably a situation where they had it ready but didn't want to actually utilize it if they made it out of E3 alright PR wise. Once they saw the reaction, they decided to implement and reveal a few more features. It is a little better if for some reason you want to let someone "borrow" your game and you don't live near them though.
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"fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360."
looool
On June 13 2013 02:23 karpotoss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:21 s3rp wrote:On June 13 2013 02:20 karpotoss wrote:
So what happens if i don't have net for 24 hours and can't check in? Game service shuts down apparently and you can only watch TV or DVD/Bluerays whatever with your System. Thx for the answer but then what? Do you go to some microsoft place to rewive it or what?
You can play your ps4 on it
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Well you can just lie about your country in your account and Xbox-live will work . Of course you will need a Creditcard or buy credit balance cards for Xbox live somewhere from outside of your country. It works for PSN and Xbox-live .
I mean i'm from Germany and i need to have an international account on PSN to get access to some titles/dlc's at all OR Demos ( the german one is not allowed to have titles 16+ as free content and there's some banned titles , Mortal Kombat i'm looking at you -.- )
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Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw.
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On June 13 2013 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw.
Xbox's release date only applies to selected Asian countries and Japan is not a part of it, or by other words, MS has yet to make a release date for Xbox One for Japan.
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On June 13 2013 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw.
Asia in general isn't getting Xbox-one until Fall 2014 .
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the world revolves around usa, didnt you guys get the memo?
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On June 13 2013 06:52 s3rp wrote:Well you can just lie about your country in your account and Xbox-live will work . Of course you will need a Creditcard or buy credit balance cards for Xbox live somewhere from outside of your country. It works for PSN and Xbox-live . I mean i'm from Germany and i need to have an international account on PSN to get access to some titles/dlc's at all OR Demos ( the german one is not allowed to have titles 16+ as free content and there's some banned titles , Mortal Kombat i'm looking at you -.- )
If it works anything like Steam, you also need a proxy in that country, or it won't accept your lie or your credit card.
But more on topic: that list of countries is fucking stupid. Not that I was planning on buying one anyway due to their other retarded policies, but this one is just even dumber. Apparently, if you move countries (and the country you move to happens to not be in that list) your Xbox Done is a flashy black box of scrap metal.
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On June 13 2013 07:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 06:52 s3rp wrote:Well you can just lie about your country in your account and Xbox-live will work . Of course you will need a Creditcard or buy credit balance cards for Xbox live somewhere from outside of your country. It works for PSN and Xbox-live . I mean i'm from Germany and i need to have an international account on PSN to get access to some titles/dlc's at all OR Demos ( the german one is not allowed to have titles 16+ as free content and there's some banned titles , Mortal Kombat i'm looking at you -.- ) If it works anything like Steam, you also need a proxy in that country, or it won't accept your lie or your credit card.But more on topic: that list of countries is fucking stupid. Not that I was planning on buying one anyway due to their other retarded policies, but this one is just even dumber. Apparently, if you move countries (and the country you move to happens to not be in that list) your Xbox Done is a flashy black box of scrap metal.
It doesn't because i have working PSN accounts ( and friends with Xbox live account btw ) registered to countries i'm definitly not residing in without any kind of proxy . US/Austria/UK to name a few. Not to mention there's a crapton of countries that don't have their own PSN/Xbox-live. It's not like i wanted to do so it's because of stupid laws in Germany .
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On June 13 2013 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw.
the japanese market didnt care about the xbox360 and most likely wont care about the xbone
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On June 13 2013 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw.
Not really Japan never like the xbox 360 like it did the PS3, Japan also doesn't have much of an online store market japanese players tend not to really spend money on things like DLC etc and they are less likely to play multi-player games then US/EU/AUS contemporaries. Simply put because of what the Xbox One is, is still very geared to the US and EU markets likely wont do all that great in comparison in japan. So they put Asia on the back burners Asia wont get one until Q3? 2014
On June 13 2013 06:52 s3rp wrote:Well you can just lie about your country in your account and Xbox-live will work . Of course you will need a Creditcard or buy credit balance cards for Xbox live somewhere from outside of your country. It works for PSN and Xbox-live . I mean i'm from Germany and i need to have an international account on PSN to get access to some titles/dlc's at all OR Demos ( the german one is not allowed to have titles 16+ as free content and there's some banned titles , Mortal Kombat i'm looking at you -.- ) I thought Germany had some obtuse form that you can only buy adult content past like 10pm and before 4am or something like that but still yeah making the convenient part of online stores not so convenient.
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On June 13 2013 07:11 jinorazi wrote:
the world revolves around usa, didnt you guys get the memo?
Ok this is gonna sound really dumb but do the Japanese celebrate Christmas as a major holiday? Cause if PS4 releases for Christmas and Xbox doesn't...they've essentially sacrificed any potential install base in Japan.
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On June 13 2013 08:10 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 07:11 jinorazi wrote:
the world revolves around usa, didnt you guys get the memo? Ok this is gonna sound really dumb but do the Japanese celebrate Christmas as a major holiday? Cause if PS4 releases for Christmas and Xbox doesn't...they've essentially sacrificed any potential install base in Japan.
Xbox has almost no market in Asia in the first place. Sony and Nintendo completely own over there. The fact that the ps4 is lower priced and coming out sooner breaks it for MS. Even if they came out at the same time Sony would still win over there. It's how much are microsoft willing to lose to focus on the US, EU, and AU.
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On June 13 2013 08:13 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 08:10 Klondikebar wrote:On June 13 2013 07:11 jinorazi wrote:
the world revolves around usa, didnt you guys get the memo? Ok this is gonna sound really dumb but do the Japanese celebrate Christmas as a major holiday? Cause if PS4 releases for Christmas and Xbox doesn't...they've essentially sacrificed any potential install base in Japan. Xbox has almost no market in Asia in the first place. Sony and Nintendo completely own over there. The fact that the ps4 is lower priced and coming out sooner breaks it for MS. Even if they came out at the same time Sony would still win over there. It's how much are microsoft willing to lose to focus on the US, EU, and AU.
NA and EU is where the money is at anyways for consoles, Nintendo completely dominates the handheld market but guess what there isn't much profit in it. Sony just hemorrhages money on the psp and even if they held more of the market it wouldn't be worth it. No reason to focus on Asia because outside of japan there isn't much money in asia for consoles and japan really is dominated by nintendo and sony.
On June 13 2013 08:10 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 07:11 jinorazi wrote:
the world revolves around usa, didnt you guys get the memo? Ok this is gonna sound really dumb but do the Japanese celebrate Christmas as a major holiday? Cause if PS4 releases for Christmas and Xbox doesn't...they've essentially sacrificed any potential install base in Japan.
Christmas isn't widely celebrated in japan although parts of christmas are celebrated in japan weather or not you are Christan which there aren't that many. What you're thinking of the big ticket gift giving doesn't occur in japan as much.
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On June 13 2013 08:00 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:Wait...Japan isn't on that list. That seems like a major major flaw. Not really Japan never like the xbox 360 like it did the PS3, Japan also doesn't have much of an online store market japanese players tend not to really spend money on things like DLC etc and they are less likely to play multi-player games then US/EU/AUS contemporaries. Simply put because of what the Xbox One is, is still very geared to the US and EU markets likely wont do all that great in comparison in japan. So they put Asia on the back burners Asia wont get one until Q3? 2014 Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 06:52 s3rp wrote:Well you can just lie about your country in your account and Xbox-live will work . Of course you will need a Creditcard or buy credit balance cards for Xbox live somewhere from outside of your country. It works for PSN and Xbox-live . I mean i'm from Germany and i need to have an international account on PSN to get access to some titles/dlc's at all OR Demos ( the german one is not allowed to have titles 16+ as free content and there's some banned titles , Mortal Kombat i'm looking at you -.- ) I thought Germany had some obtuse form that you can only buy adult content past like 10pm and before 4am or something like that but still yeah making the convenient part of online stores not so convenient.
I'm not entirely sure about every facet of the laws BUT i know german PSN/Xbox-live is not allowed to have Demos or free Titles in general 16+ unless you can 100% verify age . If you're a paying member they do show up.
And of course there's banned titles which there a two categories .
First one : Titles i'm allowed to own and buy though aren't allowed to be sold in stores and on websites ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Indiziertes_Computerspiel ) For some of those titles exist german version where stuff is cut . Sometimes not alot sometimes the game is cut to the point where it's just stupid .
Second : Games i'm not even allowed to legally own or talk about publically by law that the government could seize from me ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Beschlagnahmtes_Computerspiel ) Note : again some of those games have edited german versions . Mostly thats stuff with swastikas and other nazi symbolism in it . ( there was a german games magazine which had to recall all of their sold version of one issue because there was a trailer on the CD with a swastika somewhere in the backround , as a result they went broke )
It's kind of ridiculous since this stuff isn't enforced on say youtube . It also isn't really enforced on normal people kind of like drug laws . And i've watched a video of a discussion from video journalists speculating IF you wanted to change the law through courts on games with nazi symbols ( games right now aren't counted as art by law ) you probably could but is it worth the effort and money ? Unless you're portraying historical accurate facts you aren't allowed to show nazi symbolism unless you're counted as art by law .
Most of the laws are pretty old and haven't been updated to newer forms of media.
I personally for example legally bought Mortal Kombat 2011 on uk amazon and imported it . ( importiting british games is cheaper anyway for whatever reason even with shipping and there's german audio on it anyway ) And because the german PSN can't sell anything for the game i had to buy DLC characters on my Austrian account ( with my German creditcard btw ) .
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Btw although creating an international Xbox-live for example in Germany does IP lock it is possible to create a working international Xbox-live account you just gotta to it on the Xbox Website Which means everyone even in a country without Xbox-live ittself will have access to Xbox-live on Xbox-one.
Take it for what it's worth.
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On June 13 2013 08:19 semantics wrote:
NA and EU is where the money is at anyways for consoles, Nintendo completely dominates the handheld market but guess what there isn't much profit in it. Sony just hemorrhages money on the psp and even if they held more of the market it wouldn't be worth it. No reason to focus on Asia because outside of japan there isn't much money in asia for consoles and japan really is dominated by nintendo and sony.
Uh...PSP sales are close to 80 million, which is about equal to the XBox360. Did you mean the Vita?
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