EPTIs he that good or is it people not knowing him yet?
Fighting Games 2013-14 [FGC] - Page 18
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Is he that good or is it people not knowing him yet? | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
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Mannerheim
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 26 2013 05:56 Cel.erity wrote: ^ I don't get it. Looks like someone has a shitty screen. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
On June 30 2013 18:40 Mannerheim wrote: He's undeniably broken, and makes me wonder how NRS does balance testing (if they do it at all). After Lobo coming out and being pretty bad, I assume they're going with the KoF strategy of making the DLC characters top tier so you want to buy them  | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Lemstar
United States387 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:06 WindWolf wrote: As someone who has been watching and playing SSF4AE for a while, can someone explain to me how I am supposed to understand what's happening when watching professional UMvC3? If a character gets hit clean, odds are that he's going to die. Do you need any information about the mechanics? | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:06 WindWolf wrote: As someone who has been watching and playing SSF4AE for a while, can someone explain to me how I am supposed to understand what's happening when watching professional UMvC3? MvC3 is a simple game, it just feels complicated because there are so many setups and so much stuff flying on the screen. As long as you're only watching, you can boil the entire game down to controlling space and executing/defending against mixups. One player gets caught or mixed up and then dies to a 100% combo, repeat ad nauseum. The saving grace of the game is that different matchups actually do play very differently, it's just difficult to notice this unless you actually play the game. And IMO, if you're only spectating, there are far better games you could dedicate your time to understanding which would provide more enjoyment from figuring them out. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:06 WindWolf wrote: As someone who has been watching and playing SSF4AE for a while, can someone explain to me how I am supposed to understand what's happening when watching professional UMvC3? Typical match flowchart: 1) Continuous low/overhead/crossup mixups 2) If something lands, touch-of-death combo 3) Extremely ambiguous mixup on incoming character 4) If it lands, touch-of-death combo, if not go back to 1 This is a perfect example of a game that's fun to watch but often extremely infuriating to play. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:31 Cel.erity wrote: MvC3 is a simple game, it just feels complicated because there are so many setups and so much stuff flying on the screen. As long as you're only watching, you can boil the entire game down to controlling space and executing/defending against mixups. One player gets caught or mixed up and then dies to a 100% combo, repeat ad nauseum. The saving grace of the game is that different matchups actually do play very differently, it's just difficult to notice this unless you actually play the game. Ok, learning to understand what's happening by just watching is hard. I understood what's happening in Dota2 and SSF4AE when I started playing the games, just spectating doesn't take you the whole way And IMO, if you're only spectating, there are far better games you could dedicate your time to understanding which would provide more enjoyment from figuring them out. Well, I'm watching mostly SSF4AE and Dota2 (both whom I play on and off) when it comes to E-Sports, it was just that I one time had nothing better to do and watched some UMvC3 but understood absolutely nothing. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On July 01 2013 03:59 Cel.erity wrote: Apparently Noel Brown was arrested last night? Does anyone know what that's about? http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Orange-County-FL/Noel-A-Brown.62830771.html Apparently he hit his girlfriend?? UMVC3 is hard to learn just by watching, but once you can understand what is happening, the game does "slow down" a bit and becomes more enjoyable. | ||
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Lemstar
United States387 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:31 Cel.erity wrote: As long as you're only watching, you can boil the entire game down to controlling space and executing/defending against mixups. This literally describes every fighting game. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:59 Looms wrote: By the way, are people still enjoying Injustice? All I needed to see was interactables and clash to know that this game wasn't for me. Now Scorpion(obviously a DC character right?) is just dominating the scene? What a great game Kappa. The Scorpion problem is somewhat the fault of tournament organizers (especially Evo), who for some reason decided to allow a just-released DLC character in the tournaments. I thought banning it would be a no-brainer until it's been out for at least a couple months and received proper balance tuning. Or possibly NRS/WB gave them some money not to ban him, to promote the DLC. Who knows. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
Want to here more info on Noel, that sucks he caught a charge + Show Spoiler + and obviously for his girl but this is a FGC thread not a Politically correct thread. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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dranko
Sweden378 Posts
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Dust14
Belgium490 Posts
On July 01 2013 05:36 dranko wrote: Are there brackets for CEO somewhere? http://challonge.com/users/police_me_kayo | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On July 01 2013 04:59 Lemstar wrote: I know what you're trying to get at in your post, but I feel obliged to point out that This literally describes every fighting game. That's not the point. He asked about understanding the game as a spectator, I was just trying to say that's all you need to know about MvC3 to watch it. Every game has space control and mixups, but I would argue there's a lot more to learn if you want to really get into watching and understanding a more complicated game. On July 01 2013 04:59 Looms wrote: By the way, are people still enjoying Injustice? All I needed to see was interactables and clash to know that this game wasn't for me. Now Scorpion(obviously a DC character right?) is just dominating the scene? What a great game Kappa. I still like Injustice. Scorpion isn't dominating anything, this is his first presence at a tournament of any importance, the MK community is just full of complainers. As for the burst system, there's nothing wrong with it, except I don't like how meter can be cashed in for health so simply. It's a lot like Street Fighter; easy to pick up a character and play, but there's still enough depth to keep it interesting for at least a few years. | ||
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