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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 22 2013 18:38 GMT
#1601
Ty for info. In other news, proJared, a youtuber who used to be apart of normalboots, is doing a nuzlocke run of pokemon Y. He's going in pretty much blind, and he's a pretty funny guy. For those interested, here's the first episode; Here
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 18:47:48
October 22 2013 18:41 GMT
#1602
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy (not to mention Ghost-types walk all over you without it). This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
October 22 2013 18:47 GMT
#1603
On October 23 2013 03:41 Archas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy. This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.


Haha, you're right about Garde's movepool. I edited that part out after relooking at her movepool again.

Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 22 2013 19:07 GMT
#1604
Any1 with an Adamant ditto or synchro poke they can lend me real fast
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4416 Posts
October 22 2013 19:09 GMT
#1605
How the fuck does charizard know solarbeam?!?!?!

Just got wrecked by a passerby cos it killed my greninja, krookodile and venasaur
Sucker for nostalgia
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
October 22 2013 19:20 GMT
#1606
Don't know anything about this breeding stuff, I JUST got to the Pokémon daycare in the game. More focused on just having 3-4 boss Pokes.

What kind of EV training does everyone prefer? You can super train that shit in like 30 minsish now which is great. I'm just a troll and massing Def, sp def, and HP EVS.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 19:46:12
October 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1607
You train it based on its role, if the pokemon beats them up with a lot of physical moves and a high base attack you usually want 252 Attack Ev/ 252 Speed and vice versa for special attackers. Tanks will usually want some combination of HP/Def and Sp Def.

Finished my ferrothorn ^^, two more pokes to go before I need to get some hold items and then troll random battles.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 19:52:28
October 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1608
Can't search for Natures on GTS, caught another 30 dittos no Adamant, tried looking for a Adamant ralts but they are rare in general :/
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 19:57:51
October 22 2013 19:56 GMT
#1609
Bred myself 5 Eevee and I'll start EV-training them soon. I want to EV-train all eeveelutions, but I need hidden abilities for Espeon and Sylveon, I'd like to get a Guts Flareon, but I think it isnt worth it since it has access to Flare Blitz now, it would be a slow glass cannon. I want to get a Glaceon aswell, but I got lazy after my last set of eggs only gave me mediocre Eevee.

Thinking about doing a Life Orb Flareon with Flare Blitz, Quick Attack, Shadow Ball and Toxic/Wish

But Guts might be good with Toxic Orb and Flare Blitz, Facade, Quick Attack and Dig/Wish
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
October 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#1610
How does HP work compared to SDEF/DEF? Is there a formula for it? Like how much HP do you need for it to count as much as some amount of SDEF/DEF?
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 20:03:51
October 22 2013 20:01 GMT
#1611
On October 23 2013 03:41 Archas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy (not to mention Ghost-types walk all over you without it). This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.

Thanks for your guys' input ^^

On October 23 2013 04:51 Vonthin wrote:
Can't search for Natures on GTS, caught another 30 dittos no Adamant, tried looking for a Adamant ralts but they are rare in general :/

Are you going to be using it for breeding or are you looking for specific IVs? Because I have an adamant but it only has a perfect speed IV
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
October 22 2013 20:05 GMT
#1612
On October 23 2013 04:59 Zinnwaldite wrote:
How does HP work compared to SDEF/DEF? Is there a formula for it? Like how much HP do you need for it to count as much as some amount of SDEF/DEF?


You usually want a amount of health thats x*16+1, this allows you to survive maximum rounds of Fire/Poison (exapmle Swellow) but HP isnt ev-trained a lot I think.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 22 2013 20:06 GMT
#1613
i must have missed something, because i think I added everyone on the list, but nobody has dittos in their safari :c

ditto people pls come out~
Writer:o
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 22 2013 20:06 GMT
#1614
On October 23 2013 05:01 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 03:41 Archas wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy (not to mention Ghost-types walk all over you without it). This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.

Thanks for your guys' input ^^

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 04:51 Vonthin wrote:
Can't search for Natures on GTS, caught another 30 dittos no Adamant, tried looking for a Adamant ralts but they are rare in general :/

Are you going to be using it for breeding or are you looking for specific IVs? Because I have an adamant but it only has a perfect speed IV



If its a Ralts I need it for Synchro to catch an adamant Ditto, if its a ditto its for breeding
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
October 22 2013 20:15 GMT
#1615
On October 23 2013 05:06 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:01 phathom321 wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:41 Archas wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy (not to mention Ghost-types walk all over you without it). This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.

Thanks for your guys' input ^^

On October 23 2013 04:51 Vonthin wrote:
Can't search for Natures on GTS, caught another 30 dittos no Adamant, tried looking for a Adamant ralts but they are rare in general :/

Are you going to be using it for breeding or are you looking for specific IVs? Because I have an adamant but it only has a perfect speed IV



If its a Ralts I need it for Synchro to catch an adamant Ditto, if its a ditto its for breeding

Alright, the Ralts I have is synchronize, my in game name is Aleks
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#1616
On October 23 2013 05:05 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 04:59 Zinnwaldite wrote:
How does HP work compared to SDEF/DEF? Is there a formula for it? Like how much HP do you need for it to count as much as some amount of SDEF/DEF?


You usually want a amount of health thats x*16+1, this allows you to survive maximum rounds of Fire/Poison (exapmle Swellow) but HP isnt ev-trained a lot I think.

HP is EV trained on any poke thats ment to take hits like Chancey, Vaporeon, Farrothorn and Blissey. HP is also the stat that will usually get the singkle last ev point on sweepers that go max attack stat and speed
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 20:31:05
October 22 2013 20:29 GMT
#1617
On October 23 2013 05:15 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 05:06 Vonthin wrote:
On October 23 2013 05:01 phathom321 wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:41 Archas wrote:
On October 23 2013 03:32 Milkis wrote:
On October 23 2013 02:55 phathom321 wrote:
So, I finally got my perfect Ralts (well, perfect enough) and I'm trying to figure out the move set for Gardevoir :/

Right now I'm leaning towards Substitute, Calm Mind, Psychic and Moonblast, but I'm not sure I need both psychic and moonblast STABs and if I should try to get more coverage in the move pool, what do you guys think?


I might consider dropping substitute for another attack (or utility) move. Maybe Will O Wisp. Gardevoir's movepool is kind of meh which was her problem in the previous gens. But it really depends on the rest of your team more so than anything else. Dropping Psychic for Focus Blast might be fun, since I don't think many Poison types are too keen on switching into Gardevoir and you gain a lot more effectiveness out of it.

Uh, Gardevoir's movepool is fantastic, especially when it comes to support options. Its real problems were its poor defensive typing and low physical Defense; Game Freak fixed the first issue this generation, with its Fairy-typing providing a great STAB option and key resistances and immunities.

If you're going for a SubCM set, Shadow Ball could be a useful option over Focus Blast, since Steel isn't resistant to Ghost anymore and you won't have to rely on such shaky accuracy (not to mention Ghost-types walk all over you without it). This sacrifices some important coverage, though, so dropping Substitute in favor of having three attacking moves is viable. As powerful as a +1 STAB Psychic is, the coverage afforded by dropping it is more beneficial in my opinion.

Thanks for your guys' input ^^

On October 23 2013 04:51 Vonthin wrote:
Can't search for Natures on GTS, caught another 30 dittos no Adamant, tried looking for a Adamant ralts but they are rare in general :/

Are you going to be using it for breeding or are you looking for specific IVs? Because I have an adamant but it only has a perfect speed IV



If its a Ralts I need it for Synchro to catch an adamant Ditto, if its a ditto its for breeding

Alright, the Ralts I have is synchronize, my in game name is Aleks


Alright, my trainers name is Ben, will trade you when I connect


edit- will you need him back or should i just keep him after i finish catching an adamant ditto
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#1618
On October 23 2013 05:06 Kiett wrote:
i must have missed something, because i think I added everyone on the list, but nobody has dittos in their safari :c

ditto people pls come out~

There's a subreddit for sharing Friend Safaris, and whenever someone notes that their Safari has Ditto in it, their thread gets fucking SWARMED with responses. It's like a scuba diver intentionally drawing his own blood in shark-infested waters. Carnage and mayhem. :/ It doesn't help that Normal Safaris seem to be somewhat less common than the other types.

Man, I'd rather have Ditto and be subject to spamnation than have this stupid Fairy Safari. Shit's worthless, I tells ya.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
October 22 2013 20:32 GMT
#1619
You can keep him, have like 5 boxes full of misc. Ralts lol
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 22 2013 20:33 GMT
#1620
The reason I got a Ditto safari cause I added all the people who were like I have no idea what my safari is and got lucky, Ditto threads get like 200 posts in under 10 minutes asking to add them lol
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