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On November 14 2013 12:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 12:20 VayneAuthority wrote: lol that mandibuzz bird thing is insane with the new knock off. It phases, has great typing for a physical wall, takes out items with knock off, and dispatches boosters easily with foul play. so much win.
it's going to dominate UU, and already does very well in OU If its doing good in OU the its UU days are over.
it's not going to jump from NU to OU but good chance it ends up in UU. it's not that common at all. only seen a few teams running it at 2k+
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What do you think of this 3v3 team?
Vaporeon/Water Absorb/Bold/Leftovers Scald Wish Toxic Ice Beam
Aegislash/Stance Change/Brave/Expert Belt (0 speed IV's) Kings Shield Shadow Sneak Sacred Sword Gyro Ball
Delphox/Magician/Modest/Fire Gem Shadow Ball Fire Blast PsyShock Flame Charge
The reason I am giving Delphox a Fire Gem is because I can use Flame Charge, boost it with the gem and then steal the other guys item. May end up with something useless like a choice band but whatever. Most band users really need that boost so its still worth it.
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Why bother running Flame charge? You're already in a damn fast speed tier. Outspeed most of your threats. Why not run like Flamethrower (or WoW) and just actually do damage?
Also, Magician effect doesn't happen if you consume a gem that turn. I think even Energy ball would be better.
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On November 14 2013 14:28 iCanada wrote: Why bother running Flame charge? You're already in a damn fast speed tier. Outspeed most of your threats. Why not run like Flamethrower (or WoW) and just actually do damage?
Also, Magician effect doesn't happen if you consume a gem that turn. Really? I thought I'd be able to use the gem, then steal the item same turn. And Flame Charge was picked because I needed a physical move with 100% accuracy and Stab. The boost is nice bonus. Since magician needs a contact move Flame Charge seemed best. If you know of a better one I'm all ears .
I could Also fire blast with the gem then Flame Charge. That would leave a hell of a mark
edits: Might just replace the pokemon now. I want this gimmick to work but seems like not worth it now.
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On November 14 2013 14:36 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 14:28 iCanada wrote: Why bother running Flame charge? You're already in a damn fast speed tier. Outspeed most of your threats. Why not run like Flamethrower (or WoW) and just actually do damage?
Also, Magician effect doesn't happen if you consume a gem that turn. Really? I thought I'd be able to use the gem, then steal the item same turn. And Flame Charge was picked because I needed a physical move with 100% accuracy and Stab. The boost is nice bonus. Since magician needs a contact move Flame Charge seemed best. If you know of a better one I'm all ears  . I could Also fire blast with the gem then Flame Charge. That would leave a hell of a mark
Or, you could just not shove a round peg in a square hole.
I dunno, if I was to run Delphox I'd just go full sweeper and get as much coverage as possible and run full offensive EVs. If you want to item-screw an enemy sweeper why not just run something with Knockoff? Off note there is like Gliscor, Machamp, Mandebuzz, Meinshoo, Escavelier, Sabeleye.
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What do people think of Aegislash sets? I think the standard King's Shield/Shadow Sneak/Steel STAB/coverage or Swords Dance set has been getting the most usage but lately I've been trying out a bulkier version without King's Shield, going for SD and 3x coverage. I feel like KS is super predictable, gets me statused a lot, and honestly doesn't stop all that many threats. Anything that's coming in that I'll need to KS on can probably force me out anyway. This set plays more like a pivot, coming in on something it walls pretty hard and threatening a +2 attack next turn.
I've also been messing with mixed sets but don't really have an opinion on it yet
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shield swords is his worst set his mixed set is the best, you just spam shadow balls and everything dies double dance is pretty good as well
Aegislash @ Spell Tag / Leftovers 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpA Quiet King's Shield / Iron Head, Shadow Ball, Shadow Sneak, Sacred Sword / Iron Head
Aegislash @ Spell Tag / Life Orb / Air Balloon 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spe Adamant Swords Dance, Automotize, Shadow Claw, Sacred Sword / Iron Head
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I run him with shadow ball/shadow sneak/flash cannon/sacred sword, hit and run style. shadow ball is the go to, but sacred sword is for the pink blobs and shit. everyone and their dad tries to burn him and then gets shadow balled
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On November 14 2013 14:46 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 14:36 Orcasgt24 wrote:On November 14 2013 14:28 iCanada wrote: Why bother running Flame charge? You're already in a damn fast speed tier. Outspeed most of your threats. Why not run like Flamethrower (or WoW) and just actually do damage?
Also, Magician effect doesn't happen if you consume a gem that turn. Really? I thought I'd be able to use the gem, then steal the item same turn. And Flame Charge was picked because I needed a physical move with 100% accuracy and Stab. The boost is nice bonus. Since magician needs a contact move Flame Charge seemed best. If you know of a better one I'm all ears  . I could Also fire blast with the gem then Flame Charge. That would leave a hell of a mark Or, you could just not shove a round peg in a square hole. I dunno, if I was to run Delphox I'd just go full sweeper and get as much coverage as possible and run full offensive EVs. If you want to item-screw an enemy sweeper why not just run something with Knockoff? Off note there is like Gliscor, Machamp, Mandebuzz, Meinshoo, Escavelier, Sabeleye. Yeah, I wanted to try and get the Magician gimmick to work but just gonna abandon the plan. But its too much of a hassel so just use something else Dynamic Punching stuff with Machamp has always been a fun thing for me. Might also do the Magic Guard Sigilyph thing with a burn orb and psycho shift
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Does anyone with Pokemon Y have an extra Kabuto and Omanyte they can trade me? I have lots of Lileeps and Anoriths to exchange. Or any of the other fossil pokes you may need.
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Wow, this is awesome Thanks! I guess I'll try to make 1850
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Does anyone want to infect me with pokerus? :<
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On November 15 2013 03:33 seRapH wrote: Does anyone want to infect me with pokerus? :<
Do I have you added? If not msg me i'll get you pokerus. IGN: Kyle
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On November 14 2013 12:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 12:20 VayneAuthority wrote: lol that mandibuzz bird thing is insane with the new knock off. It phases, has great typing for a physical wall, takes out items with knock off, and dispatches boosters easily with foul play. so much win.
it's going to dominate UU, and already does very well in OU If its doing good in OU the its UU days are over. That's not really how the tiering system works. Tier placement is based upon percentage of use, not comparative power. Mandibuzz may be viable in OU, but if it doesn't make the usage cut, it could still very easily be UU or even lower.
On November 14 2013 10:09 Soulstice wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 10:02 VayneAuthority wrote: you don't get prankster on the turn you mega evolve, which is why mega banette is almost unusable. I've done extensive testing on it and nothing raelly makes sense, it gets the worst end of everything.
No prankster on the first turn.
if you mega evolve and get spored on the same turn, you lose insomnia and get put to sleep (lol)
he's not very fast to begin with, so priority users can easily dodge his destiny bond.
among other things...stay away from this mega woooooooow, i wasted so much time breeding this pokemon  bannette would be an awesome mega if prankster functioned on the first turn. I built mine defensive in hopes to counter high speed physical attackers by means of will-o-wisp. How disappointing...thanks for the responses. Edit: LOL going to run protect on it to skip the first turn, we'll see lol. Something else you could try is sending Banette out on a weakened Pokémon, Mega evolving, and using Shadow Sneak or something to try and revenge kill. You can then start abusing Prankster on the next turn.
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Mega banette also destroys Mega gengar which a lot of people are running and so you can just send it out against Mega gengar and then evolve then while killing gengar (and then abuse prankster next turn). You can then proceed to kill things or use destiny bond to kill something else.
Also I never realized Knock off got changed O_O It seems really strong now...
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You know, I don't think I've ever ragequit a game. Even playing dota 1 + 2 and dealing with all that shit I always stayed in the game no matter how bad. But this fucking klefki w/ leftovers - swagger/substitute/thunder wave/play rough with prankster completely neutralized my team on its own. I was supposed to take it out with a bonemarang from marowak but first turn swagger -> hit itself. Second turn thunderwave -> hits itself. Third turn paralyzed, gets hit with play rough. Fourth turn hits itself and gets hit with play rough -> faint.
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On November 15 2013 05:03 ZeaL. wrote: You know, I don't think I've ever ragequit a game. Even playing dota 1 + 2 and dealing with all that shit I always stayed in the game no matter how bad. But this fucking klefki w/ leftovers - swagger/substitute/thunder wave/play rough with prankster completely neutralized my team on its own. I was supposed to take it out with a bonemarang from marowak but first turn swagger -> hit itself. Second turn thunderwave -> hits itself. Third turn paralyzed, gets hit with play rough. Fourth turn hits itself and gets hit with play rough -> faint.
... So did you ragequit? + Show Spoiler +
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On November 15 2013 05:22 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:03 ZeaL. wrote: You know, I don't think I've ever ragequit a game. Even playing dota 1 + 2 and dealing with all that shit I always stayed in the game no matter how bad. But this fucking klefki w/ leftovers - swagger/substitute/thunder wave/play rough with prankster completely neutralized my team on its own. I was supposed to take it out with a bonemarang from marowak but first turn swagger -> hit itself. Second turn thunderwave -> hits itself. Third turn paralyzed, gets hit with play rough. Fourth turn hits itself and gets hit with play rough -> faint.
... So did you ragequit? + Show Spoiler +
yeah. after i was down to my paralyzed, confused reuniclus that had killed a subsititute off like 5 times without being able to actually hit the damn thing I just raged. So piss off
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