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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 17:10:29
November 12 2013 17:10 GMT
#2801
I'm slightly annoyed that despite all the other online features, Battle Maison is STILL local-only, when IIRC there was online Battle Frontier in Gen 4, but they went back on it in gen 5.

Other than that, the game met my expectations for the most part.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 12 2013 17:12 GMT
#2802
I want to train myself a Mega Blastoise for competetive use (mostly Battle Maison, as I'm a scrub).
Clawitzer learns pretty much every move I'd want on it, but I dont know which 4th move I should use and which EV spread.

+ Show Spoiler [Current plans] +

Mega Blastoise@Blastoisite
Modest/Bold 252 Sp.Atk, 96 Def, 152 HP

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Water Pulse
Aqua Jet/Dark Pulse


Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 12 2013 18:28 GMT
#2803
200 hours clocked atm -

+ Show Spoiler [Stuff I like ] +

Loved the fairy type although I think it needed to be a tad weaker offensively

Loved the mega evolution mechanic although I think the mewtwo evolutions are both worse than the original (With the exception of a Darkrai check when sleep clause isn't in effect)

Loved the changes to breeding / super training

Loved the new legendaries and despite initial criticism I've found that niche where Zygarde is actually good (in OU)

Love the ability to change music in the battle spot (<3 champion theme)


+ Show Spoiler [complaints] +

Really needed more post game content. I liked the looker side story but after that there really isn't much. I've already got 3/5 of the battle maison statues and once the pokebank comes available I'll have all the gen 1-5 pokemon there (Minus meleotta because I was out the country when that event was on)

Coumarine's god damn tram.

Friend safari in general really. I hate the static 3 pokemon per file and how you have to constantly be going in and out of the safari when you want to change pokemon.

Pokemon hordes being at a lower level than you. When I first heard about them I thought they would be a lot like monster houses from the mystery dungeon games but they were just something you ended up running away from because their speed values were so low. Although yes they are useful for EV training.

BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 18:48:06
November 12 2013 18:47 GMT
#2804
I pretty much love everything EXCEPT the fact that GameFreak didn't implement the battle frontier from gen 3.
I loved that shit.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
November 12 2013 19:15 GMT
#2805
They need to save that for the inevitable third game.. or at least the move tutors.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
November 12 2013 19:32 GMT
#2806
I just started, and added a bunch of people's FCs.

Add me back pls :D
boomer hands
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 12 2013 19:37 GMT
#2807
On November 13 2013 04:15 Mysticesper wrote:
They need to save that for the inevitable third game.. or at least the move tutors.

That reminds me of another complaint--which is how underwhelming Zygarde is compared to the two version legendaries.

TBH it really just felt like an afterthought to have Zygarde in the game at all--especially since Mewtwo is already in the game as *the* post-game legendary.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 12 2013 19:50 GMT
#2808
zygarde is pretty strong really, has his niche in coil. I hope they don't buff him overboad in Z. with a special defensive EV set and spamming coil he's pretty tough if you even get one turn of setup.

My only complaint really is their obsession with battles of 3 pokemon online, just give us full 6 pokemon battles already...
I come in for the scraps
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#2809
On November 13 2013 02:12 NovaMB wrote:
I want to train myself a Mega Blastoise for competetive use (mostly Battle Maison, as I'm a scrub).
Clawitzer learns pretty much every move I'd want on it, but I dont know which 4th move I should use and which EV spread.

+ Show Spoiler [Current plans] +

Mega Blastoise@Blastoisite
Modest/Bold 252 Sp.Atk, 96 Def, 152 HP

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Water Pulse
Aqua Jet/Dark Pulse



well for one both the natures you've chosen lower attack so don't use those if you're considering aqua jet
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
November 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#2810
On November 13 2013 04:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
zygarde is pretty strong really, has his niche in coil. I hope they don't buff him overboad in Z. with a special defensive EV set and spamming coil he's pretty tough if you even get one turn of setup.

My only complaint really is their obsession with battles of 3 pokemon online, just give us full 6 pokemon battles already...


They should really have the option to do both and just let the community decide which one.
Jaedong :3
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 21:05:40
November 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#2811
On November 13 2013 02:12 NovaMB wrote:
I want to train myself a Mega Blastoise for competetive use (mostly Battle Maison, as I'm a scrub).
Clawitzer learns pretty much every move I'd want on it, but I dont know which 4th move I should use and which EV spread.

+ Show Spoiler [Current plans] +

Mega Blastoise@Blastoisite
Modest/Bold 252 Sp.Atk, 96 Def, 152 HP

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Water Pulse
Aqua Jet/Dark Pulse




My trick room Clawitzer
Clawitzer@Assault Vest
Quiet nature
252 HP 252 SpA 6 SpD
31 HP/Def/SpA/SpD IV's

moveset:
Aura Sphere
Dark Pulse
Water Pulse
Ice Beam

Rationale: With trick room, clawitzer becomes a ridiculous sweeper because he outspeeds most pokemon and has a really high special attack. I chose water pulse, dark pulse, and aura sphere as they mesh with his ability and give great coverage (fire, ground, rock, normal, ice, dark, steel, psychic, ghost). I chose ice beam because though it has less power it offers greater coverage than dragon pulse, most importantly for grass. Assault vest is great since it doesn't do anything but attack anyways and covers his weakness to most electric moves.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 12 2013 21:20 GMT
#2812
On November 13 2013 04:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
zygarde is pretty strong really, has his niche in coil. I hope they don't buff him overboad in Z. with a special defensive EV set and spamming coil he's pretty tough if you even get one turn of setup.

My only complaint really is their obsession with battles of 3 pokemon online, just give us full 6 pokemon battles already...

I wasn't speaking to how strong he is in competitive--more that stylistically it's not all that exciting, and there's no real story to it the way there is for the version legendaries. It's sort of just there.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 12 2013 21:24 GMT
#2813
that is kinda most of the 3rd legendaries though. I still remember that I didn't even know rayquaza existed until many many years after playing that series as a kid. I hated travelling by water so I never found that abandoned tower. The third legendaries are usually just...there.
I come in for the scraps
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
November 12 2013 21:34 GMT
#2814
I mean, in red and blue all the legendaries were just...there.
Jaedong :3
Pinnacle55
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 21:50:19
November 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#2815
On November 13 2013 06:04 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 02:12 NovaMB wrote:
I want to train myself a Mega Blastoise for competetive use (mostly Battle Maison, as I'm a scrub).
Clawitzer learns pretty much every move I'd want on it, but I dont know which 4th move I should use and which EV spread.

+ Show Spoiler [Current plans] +

Mega Blastoise@Blastoisite
Modest/Bold 252 Sp.Atk, 96 Def, 152 HP

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Water Pulse
Aqua Jet/Dark Pulse




My trick room Clawitzer
Clawitzer@Assault Vest
Quiet nature
252 HP 252 SpA 6 SpD
31 HP/Def/SpA/SpD IV's

moveset:
Aura Sphere
Dark Pulse
Water Pulse
Ice Beam

Rationale: With trick room, clawitzer becomes a ridiculous sweeper because he outspeeds most pokemon and has a really high special attack. I chose water pulse, dark pulse, and aura sphere as they mesh with his ability and give great coverage (fire, ground, rock, normal, ice, dark, steel, psychic, ghost). I chose ice beam because though it has less power it offers greater coverage than dragon pulse, most importantly for grass. Assault vest is great since it doesn't do anything but attack anyways and covers his weakness to most electric moves.


Pretty much how I run my Clawitzer, except that rather than having Trick Room support, I have Sticky Web support instead.It's the same thing really, except that Claw doesn't get outspeeded by everything and anything if I don't my support up.

The only other change is that I use Scald instead of Water Pulse. For 10 less power, you have the chance to burn, which helps take down Walls, and sometimes completely neuters some pokemon like Mawile. And Burn is so much more reliable than Confusion.
There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 12 2013 22:03 GMT
#2816
On November 13 2013 06:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 04:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
zygarde is pretty strong really, has his niche in coil. I hope they don't buff him overboad in Z. with a special defensive EV set and spamming coil he's pretty tough if you even get one turn of setup.

My only complaint really is their obsession with battles of 3 pokemon online, just give us full 6 pokemon battles already...

I wasn't speaking to how strong he is in competitive--more that stylistically it's not all that exciting, and there's no real story to it the way there is for the version legendaries. It's sort of just there.


So was Giritina in D/P

Kyruem had that whole monster of the crater thing going on but Zygarde stopped all the mining in terminus cave so I'll call it even on that.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2013 22:18 GMT
#2817
On November 13 2013 06:49 Pinnacle55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 06:04 ZeaL. wrote:
On November 13 2013 02:12 NovaMB wrote:
I want to train myself a Mega Blastoise for competetive use (mostly Battle Maison, as I'm a scrub).
Clawitzer learns pretty much every move I'd want on it, but I dont know which 4th move I should use and which EV spread.

+ Show Spoiler [Current plans] +

Mega Blastoise@Blastoisite
Modest/Bold 252 Sp.Atk, 96 Def, 152 HP

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Water Pulse
Aqua Jet/Dark Pulse




My trick room Clawitzer
Clawitzer@Assault Vest
Quiet nature
252 HP 252 SpA 6 SpD
31 HP/Def/SpA/SpD IV's

moveset:
Aura Sphere
Dark Pulse
Water Pulse
Ice Beam

Rationale: With trick room, clawitzer becomes a ridiculous sweeper because he outspeeds most pokemon and has a really high special attack. I chose water pulse, dark pulse, and aura sphere as they mesh with his ability and give great coverage (fire, ground, rock, normal, ice, dark, steel, psychic, ghost). I chose ice beam because though it has less power it offers greater coverage than dragon pulse, most importantly for grass. Assault vest is great since it doesn't do anything but attack anyways and covers his weakness to most electric moves.


Pretty much how I run my Clawitzer, except that rather than having Trick Room support, I have Sticky Web support instead.It's the same thing really, except that Claw doesn't get outspeeded by everything and anything if I don't my support up.

The only other change is that I use Scald instead of Water Pulse. For 10 less power, you have the chance to burn, which helps take down Walls, and sometimes completely neuters some pokemon like Mawile. And Burn is so much more reliable than Confusion.



Yeah trick room has it's problems but it's fun using it to play super aggressively with pokemon no one uses. Sticky web has issues as well (rapid spin, opponent ALSO has sticky web, trick room) but yeah, nothing should be unstoppable.

I might have to consider scald, didn't really think about it given mega launcher. Burn too stronk.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
November 13 2013 00:40 GMT
#2818
Unless you are a die-hard collector or really into playing competitively. There is a lack of post-game content to do. Maybe I was just spoiled by having finished Black 2 only a week before X/Y came out, as that had a ton of places to explore after you became champion.

All of the changes they made to make attainment of perfect pokemon easier are great. And should open the gate to more people getting interested in playing competitively. Albeit I think GameFreak can still make it better by adding in options to not scale to level 50, and having full 6 on 6 random battles.

Pretty happy with how they balanced fairy. At this point, I don't feel any of them are too strong as only a handful of pokemon were given the typing, and I can think of 3 that will be used primarily for this typing,Togekiss, Azumarrill, Sylveon. Well there is Mawile to but I feel it's the attack power of his mega evo that makes people use him.

As for Mega Evos, I think they are balanced pretty well. It takes away your hold item slot for the potential of an upgrade. I feel like some pokemon won't get their MEvos used much as it has a marginal power upgrade over using Life Orb (e.g. Mega Houndoom). Some are very interesting. Mega Garchomp turns him into a Kyurem-B-esque wallbreaker. Mega Pinsir and his flying STAB Quick Attacks. Mega Gyarados can use his MEvo to sacrifice his EQ immunity with the ability to punch through the EQ immunities of his opponents.

I think there's more potential for MEvos out there. There are definitely some NU/RU pokemon that will get a lot of love should they be granted a powerful MEvo.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Gleen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brazil707 Posts
November 13 2013 00:57 GMT
#2819
Does anyone here have a FS with ditto or chansey?

If so, can you add me please?
I'm nowhere near good, but I still have fun playing with my probes
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
November 13 2013 11:17 GMT
#2820
Is there a higher shiny rate in safaris or something? My mate found a shiny of each of my three inside an hour :/
Sucker for nostalgia
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