With the current sale of the CE over at steam and our last thread on Blood Bowl being over 2 years old, it's time to reinstate a thread dedicated to the glorious god of Nuffle. Maybe, just maybe we can also find enough people to host another TL inhouse league.
What the fuck is this about? Blood Bowl is a spin-off of the Warhammer tabletop series. In it's essence it is a mixture of American Football, MMA and... chess (or "Warhammer+NFL+Turn based strategy=Blood Bowl"). 23 various Warhammer races from Elves and Dwarves all the way to Undead and Chaoz fight against each other on the field. The basic rules are simple: Two teams, one ball. Whoever scores more touchdowns wins. The "Blood" part in "Blood Bowl"? Just bribing some referees to look the other way, purchasing illegal magic and cracking some bones here and there to make sure the enemy team has less able players than you do. Nothing special.
PS: If you do own the original Blood Bowl, Dark Elves or the Legendary Edition you can use the product key to purchase the Chaos Edition for 10$ directly from the devs here.
On December 28 2012 19:38 sc4k wrote: So does Chaos Edition actually change anything in the game or just add a few new teams?
From what I understand it adds 3 races (Chaos Dwarves / Khorne / Underworld) and mostly some cleanups like better search functions for MP, a new stadium, some bugfixes, basic stuff like that. You can still play with anyone who has the LE.
On December 28 2012 19:38 sc4k wrote: So does Chaos Edition actually change anything in the game or just add a few new teams?
From what I understand it adds 3 races (Chaos Dwarves / Khorne / Underworld) and mostly some cleanups like better search functions for MP, a new stadium, some bugfixes, basic stuff like that. You can still play with anyone who has the LE.
LE also received a patch with all the bugfixes etc. Only buy CE if you actually want to play any of the new races or pitches.
Personally, I would prefer mini one-day tournaments to a league. After the tournaments and people learn the basics, we could start up a league.
The structure for the one-day tournaments could be 8 participants in single elimination so there only need to be seven games played. That way, the games could be done sequentially, which is nice if there is a commentator+streamer who the other participants (and non-participants) could watch and learn from. That would help draw the noobs into the game and get them to play in the league as well as getting people to buy the game and play.
@Durak/ShloobeR: If you guys are up for it we can get together and figure something out for a potential League / some warmup event to get people rolling. To be frank I haven't organized a league myself, I only stared in awe at the old inhouse threads on TL - so I'm a bit hesitant to try and get it done on my own.
That is a lot more games then what was proposed before.
8 player single elimination would be a first round of 4 games (for each player), then a semifinal, and a final. Meaning you get a total of 7 games, and a maximum of 3 games per player.
Well, I think my idea is pretty fantastic. The only reason I am not going ahead with organizing it is that:
1. I'm new to the game (so I wouldn't be able to commentate) 2. I'm quite busy now and in January
It really doesn't take much organizing though. Basically just need a dozen people to show interest. No point in planning ahead it if there isn't any interest.
On December 28 2012 18:45 r.Evo wrote: PS: If you do own the original Blood Bowl, Dark Elves or the Legendary Edition you can use the product key to purchase the Chaos Edition for 10$ directly from the devs here.
I will check that out as soon as I get home! Got the original BB for xmas 2 years ago :D Although I'd probably play Dark Elves anyway which were already included in my version..
I own LE and would certainly be interested in playing some games with the TL community! Shortly after I purchased my copy of BB I signed up for the league(s) on TL that were running at that time, but it seems I joined just as activity died and haven't actually played since. Still installed, still fun!
I'm probably interested again, but be warned: TL is an international community, and scheduling games is a nightmare. If you leave it up to the players to get them played, they probably won't happen.
From experience with the last tournament that was run, the idea of setting aside one day / afternoon and smashing out 3-4 games with everyone on at the same time is probably going to be more effective than a multi-week league...
I own Legendary Edition, and i'd be interested in playing in a TL league/tournament too ^^
On January 03 2013 11:38 jaycee wrote: I'm probably interested again, but be warned: TL is an international community, and scheduling games is a nightmare. If you leave it up to the players to get them played, they probably won't happen.
yep, you are probably in UTC+10 timezone, i'm in UTC+1, and if we've got a western american in our grop he is in UTC-7/8... so if there's a league or tournament to be had i guess it's better to organize brackets based on that >.>
this game is the most rage inducing game i ever played lol,sc2is nothing compared to it haha,yiou know the kind of game you get beat by someone you were dominating al game and were in good position ,are 3-4 men up but then opponent pulls off an impossible move to get the ball like 3dodge , 2 going for it and a 2D block against him with no rerolls,succeed,then rolls a 6 on the pickup,now its my turn i get tackle the ball guy with a 2Dblock i get double skull reroll into push,frenzy get in .. bam double skull ,turnover,pull up a 5 for the dodge then 2 6 for the launch and catch on a bomb and scores....all that on turn like 15 lol
On January 03 2013 12:05 Skirmjan wrote: yep, you are probably in UTC+10 timezone, i'm in UTC+1, and if we've got a western american in our grop he is in UTC-7/8... so if there's a league or tournament to be had i guess it's better to organize brackets based on that >.>
Yeah - on their own its possible to schedule times that suit, but getting all 3 regions on at same time could be a challenge. That said, there were several from each region (US/EU/Asia) last time we tried, so divisions followed by playoffs might work
On January 03 2013 12:05 Skirmjan wrote: yep, you are probably in UTC+10 timezone, i'm in UTC+1, and if we've got a western american in our grop he is in UTC-7/8... so if there's a league or tournament to be had i guess it's better to organize brackets based on that >.>
Yeah - on their own its possible to schedule times that suit, but getting all 3 regions on at same time could be a challenge. That said, there were several from each region (US/EU/Asia) last time we tried, so divisions followed by playoffs might work
Oh, so you did like smaller regional divisions and then overall playoffs? There are usually okayish ways to coordinate like EU and USE, but as soon as USW and, even worse, Aussies enter the pool logistics go down the drain instantly. =D
There are multiple international leagues that very easily deal with this issue. You can also setup a round robin league within the game.... The way the other leagues handle it is to just let everyone schedule a game a week. If there's a no show, there's an option in the system to forfeit the player. All we would have to do is setup a forum for scheduling. Anybody who doesn't send out an invite (and other does) will forfeit the match. The winning player gets 2 MVPs, 2 TDs randomly distributed, and all the winnings.
I'm part of 2 leagues and the competition is fierce, so you might not want me to play
But if this league doesn't get kickstarted and some of you guys feel the itch... you can join the following league:
This 40-team league is styled after the NFL. It's uber competitive and very difficult to get into. There's a waiting list... but we have side leagues, stat tracking, ranking and tournaments to keep you occupied while you wait. Our community is also great and very welcoming to new coaches. For the franchise league (the 40 team one), our commissioner has made his own custom UI for team db files... That means we can play through LAN, which means we can play with customized team files! That means we can play LRB6 races such as Slann and Choas Pact! We also have all of the star players available from the table top Blood Bowl. It's ridiculously fun. At the end of the 16 week season, the playoffs begin. Some games are live streamed, we have a fantasy football league based on our players, and we have a gambling section. The attention everybody puts into the league is what makes it very fun. This league is American based, but we have many European players.
This is another hardcore league but it's geared for an "RPG" approach to blood bowl. You start out with a fresh team in the "Snotling League". Once you finish that, you can then enroll in the Orca Cola League.... it's currently made up of 6 divisions with the bottom 5 divisions made up of 36 teams divided evenly into 4 groups. You play all of the other teams in your group Round Robin style, and at the end of the season, the the top 2 teams from each group are moved up to the next division! The top division... division 1 has only 1 group and has very cutthroat rules. Finish 1st or 2nd within the division or get demoted to division 2. 1st place and 2nd place teams from Division 2 are moved up. The teams and coaches at this division are epic, and they can obviously "ball". This league is European based, but some American players (such as myself) are enrolled and playing.
It really doesn't take much organizing though. Basically just need a dozen people to show interest. No point in planning ahead it if there isn't any interest.
well we do have that dozen actually, i counted the ppl showing interest here and it looks like we're 14, more or less
On January 17 2013 05:17 LemonyTang wrote: I don't suppose anyone can recommend some good guides for wood elf? I really want to find out a good way to use my treeman but I don't know how.
best use for a treeman most of the time: just stand in the way.
On January 18 2013 06:57 nihlon wrote: TB (shoutcast) streaming some Bloodbowl now if someone is interested.
Watched it. Sadly he was just playing against the AI. I guess its because he needs to brush up on the mechanics. Would love to see him move towards online matches.
The guys at TGS (the youtube organization TB is in) are starting a bloodbowl league, like a 8 player format starting in febuary. So we'll at least get some more youtube content.
I would be interested in helping organise a league although these days I just don't have enough time to organise it myself. I'd be down with keeping excel sheets and scores etc at work though : )!
On January 17 2013 05:17 LemonyTang wrote: I don't suppose anyone can recommend some good guides for wood elf? I really want to find out a good way to use my treeman but I don't know how.
best use for a treeman most of the time: just stand in the way.
Best use for treemen is not taking them at all. Wood Elves along with Goblins and Skaven are probably the best races overall since mobility and dexterity is king in this game, allowing you to score insanely fast and easy. Sure, you won't be worth a dime in combat but if you focus on combat you've pretty much lost already.
On January 17 2013 05:17 LemonyTang wrote: I don't suppose anyone can recommend some good guides for wood elf? I really want to find out a good way to use my treeman but I don't know how.
best use for a treeman most of the time: just stand in the way.
Best use for treemen is not taking them at all. Wood Elves along with Goblins and Skaven are probably the best races overall since mobility and dexterity is king in this game, allowing you to score insanely fast and easy. Sure, you won't be worth a dime in combat but if you focus on combat you've pretty much lost already.
You haven't played this game in a while, have you? Where'd you get the idea that Goblins out of all races are good? They're a joke team. It even says so in the manual. You have a point with Wood Elves and Skaven. However, in both scheduled and permanent leagues bash/running teams (teams that focus on the combat and usually aim to win 2-1) are doing very well and in fact are the vast majority. That's not to say mobile teams aren't good, mind you.
Regarding the treeman question:
I'm no expert on wood elves but I've heard very varying opinions on the tree. He helps a lot on your line of scrimmage. On defense if you can tie up one or more of the opposing cagers with him then that increases your chance of retrieving the ball notably.
I suggest you also read this guide: http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/playbooks/Woodelf2.pdf Most of that playbook applies to all elf teams (and to a degree skaven) so it should be a pretty good read for anyone getting into the game.
Just started playing last night after literally years of wanting to buy the board game.
I used to play with a small group of friends, but with just the core book (rather than the living rulebook).
It later turned out that one of them picked up the Chaos Edition during a Steam sale, so now I have someone to play with and I'm hoping it all goes well. I used to have a High Elf team, but I'm consideing playing some Wood Elf now. I love mobile teams, rather than bludgeoning
On January 17 2013 05:17 LemonyTang wrote: I don't suppose anyone can recommend some good guides for wood elf? I really want to find out a good way to use my treeman but I don't know how.
best use for a treeman most of the time: just stand in the way.
Exactly.... If the other team receives, they have 4 free shots on your players. A treeman takes one of those shots away.
ALSO... a treeman with GRAB saves you on a blitz on your one turn TD attempt.
You can use the tree to bring a defender behind the LOS. you can then chain push that defender into your other players so you can push your catcher up in range to score!
The TGS Bloodbowl cup is finally getting started! Totalbiscuit has posted an announcement video on youtube:
Today he followed it up with an analysis featuring cknoor, who has done a shitload of BB videos (and pretty much the only ones with english commentary) already:
Although I don't expect very refined play from these events I'm certain they'll turn out to be a lot of fun and more importantly will bring many players to this awesome game.
At this point, i am basically waiting for some sort of daily deal for this game to get it cheap. I don't really intend to play any multiplayer, though. But if someone sees a good deal somewhere it would be nice if you could tell me (Please keep in mind that i am in germany and don't have a credit card which restricts where i can buy games)
haha, I just played a game on fumbbl and managed to win 2:0 over a goblin team with my night elves despite one of my linemen dying and my witch breaking her back... :D
For those who don't know (and don't care too much about the fancy graphics of Cyanide), there is FUMBBL, which has many leagues / different divisions. It uses a java client, which looks like this: It's free, apparently has a better rules implementation (such as magic cards) and a very decent community. I don't wanna hijack this thread, but as it's the only active BB topic, I thought I'd let you know. If you wanna try it out, add me (nick: kutte).
I just picked up a copy as well and can say that the game is totally worth it, particularly at the lower price point. This game satisfies so many little niches for me, from the sports sim, the tactical war game, and splash in some TCG elements (when the players develop and your team/deck gets stronger). There are obvious flaws in the interface, but the gameplay is engaging, deep and that good type of frustrating (that same type that comes from losing to Masters leaguer as a lowly Diamond). Then again, as a DnDer I mind shitty dice rolls less than the average person :-).
Elf BS is still infuriating. A guy runs through all of my frontline (in and out of at least 3 tackle zones), throws the ball across half the map to a guy also tagged by two of my guys, who then proceeds to run past all of them and score AAARGHHHH. But luckily after a few more rounds all of his fucking team lay in the casualty box. Fucking elves. But in this game you can punch them. Any game that features punching annoying elves is a good one.
Different question: When do i get that money from my sponsors contract? I now finished a whole season with all objectives i had taken at the start (except for "increase team value" which always increased with my team value making it impossible to achieve), and at no point did i get that sponsor money. I am now in the next season, and not only did i not get my sponsors money, apparently someone also stole all of my teams money because i am now at 0, and i had money before. Can someone explain how that works?
On March 14 2013 23:31 Simberto wrote: Elf BS is still infuriating. A guy runs through all of my frontline (in and out of at least 3 tackle zones), throws the ball across half the map to a guy also tagged by two of my guys, who then proceeds to run past all of them and score AAARGHHHH. But luckily after a few more rounds all of his fucking team lay in the casualty box. Fucking elves. But in this game you can punch them. Any game that features punching annoying elves is a good one.
Different question: When do i get that money from my sponsors contract? I now finished a whole season with all objectives i had taken at the start (except for "increase team value" which always increased with my team value making it impossible to achieve), and at no point did i get that sponsor money. I am now in the next season, and not only did i not get my sponsors money, apparently someone also stole all of my teams money because i am now at 0, and i had money before. Can someone explain how that works?
To be honest I think the most irritating thing about blood bowl is the people who play without finesse. When they have the ball they just circle the guy with 9 players. They usually play dwarf or some other lame team like that.
If I lose to elfs at least they had to think it through.
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