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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
January 29 2016 16:01 GMT
#61
On January 30 2016 00:47 Dizmaul wrote:
I'm confused the PvP arena is a non-luck based equipment/ combat system where skill/ strategy decides. So what are you wishing for?

Its also where the esport of this game takes place for obvious reasons.

Disclaimer:
Classes may not be balanced perfectly so it might not always be pure skill and strategy haha.


Maybe i'm on the wrong track here, but isn't there like, a chance to crit? to pierce?
I'm relative new to the game so it's entirely possible i'm wrong ^^
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
January 29 2016 18:11 GMT
#62
There is in PvE but like its been said your gear does not matter in PvP Arena.
It is what it is
JamesGoblin
Profile Joined January 2016
Zimbabwe5 Posts
January 31 2016 14:47 GMT
#63
Nice info, just I don't know why people constantly (mis)label it as MMO!? It's nice for what it is thou.
My name is Goblin. James Goblin.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#64
Because it is a MMO。
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 01 2016 09:00 GMT
#65
Got my first arena daily quest and started with a 5 game winning streak! I'm owning this game!
Haha, no i guess i was just faster than my opponent at button mashing ^^

What is the current end game gear in our verison of the game? Could someoen give a short summary. I tried google but with the 1000 different versions of this game, i am now more confused than before

On January 31 2016 23:47 JamesGoblin wrote:
Nice info, just I don't know why people constantly (mis)label it as MMO!? It's nice for what it is thou.


What would you label it?
I see it as the very definition of a MMO...
You mean because it lacks instanced 20v 20 zerg battles like TERA ? I don't miss those

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 02 2016 10:27 GMT
#66
On February 01 2016 18:00 Harris1st wrote:
Got my first arena daily quest and started with a 5 game winning streak! I'm owning this game!
Haha, no i guess i was just faster than my opponent at button mashing ^^



Was pretty sure the "Win a 1v1" and "Play 5 matches 1v1" were Dailys but can't find them anymore...??? Maybe I'm just stupid, dunno
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
February 02 2016 16:33 GMT
#67
They are on the Tourney Notice board, which can be found in main towns or in the arena itself before you duel.
It is what it is
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 03 2016 10:27 GMT
#68
On February 03 2016 01:33 Dizmaul wrote:
They are on the Tourney Notice board, which can be found in main towns or in the arena itself before you duel.


Can't seem to find neither...

Is this a level thing maybe? Got my first Arena Q with lvl 30 I believe. Thought it was a daily
Now I'm 35 and got no quests, neither at tourney notice board, nor in the arena
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
February 03 2016 15:51 GMT
#69
Humm maybe it is a level thing, My 45's get like 6 a day.
It is what it is
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 08:28:15
February 04 2016 08:28 GMT
#70
Ye now i have them.

Got my ass handed to me multiple times today with my FM.

Specially vs Assassins i got problems:
They stun me, i break it, they cloak, i can't do shit
They blind me, i can't do shit, they cloak, i can't do shit

Fun times....

And Blade Master seem to have no CD on their ranged stun... stun.. break...stun... break... stun... no more breaks -> dead
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
February 04 2016 15:58 GMT
#71
Yeah this is the kind of game where for most classes you need to know how your opponents class works to beat them. I wont argue with Assassins being lame as fuck tho hah. I cant stand chasing there ass around for 3 min. Also I have a BM and we only have 1 escape so if we mess that up your FM will freeze my ass till GG.
It is what it is
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
February 08 2016 17:49 GMT
#72
hey guys,

i'd like your input on if i'd enjoy the game or not. judging by visuals and gameplay video it look like the kinda game i'd like to play.

the two last mmo i played were aion (both at release and after the gunner patch) and tera (both at release and just before the reaper patch didnt play the actual patch).
i don't really mind farming but i like questing too. i like mid party high dungeon (like party of 6 or so) but dont like big (30+) parties. i like to pve more than pvp. but in pvp i like war system more than arena. i absolutely hate open world pvp but if there is safe chanels i dont mind it (i hate to be pked while questing basically).

from what i expect for now : i expect a battle system more like tera, i don't expect too much HL content as the game is young, and i expect so much bot than general chat is automatically ignored


and if your answer to previous question is yes i'd like the game, which class would you recommend ? on tab-targeting mmo like aion i like distance dps like mage or gunner, on action-based system like tera i like melee more.
i liked tera tank with targeting grappling and such but didn't like aion tank
i liked heal in both but as i plan to play solo and not like voice server, heal is a little on the low side for me
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-08 20:30:23
February 08 2016 20:29 GMT
#73
This game is built around 1v1 arena pvp. It is not the game for you. (The PvE takes a backseat to PvPs development and is not very good at all.)
Useless wet fish.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
February 09 2016 06:20 GMT
#74
doh that too bad. tanks for the anwser mate
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
February 09 2016 14:28 GMT
#75
I hear Clan pvp is fun though, time to go fishing with my FM :v
I post only when my brain works.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 15 2016 09:10 GMT
#76
On February 09 2016 05:29 Capped wrote:
This game is built around 1v1 arena pvp. It is not the game for you. (The PvE takes a backseat to PvPs development and is not very good at all.)


PvP Arena is a big part of this game sure, but it's not all there is

With Mushin Tower there is some really challenging PvE hig end content as well.


On February 09 2016 02:49 zeross wrote:
hey guys,

1. i'd like your input on if i'd enjoy the game or not. judging by visuals and gameplay video it look like the kinda game i'd like to play.

2. the two last mmo i played were aion (both at release and after the gunner patch) and tera (both at release and just before the reaper patch didnt play the actual patch).
3. i don't really mind farming but i like questing too. i like mid party high dungeon (like party of 6 or so) but dont like big (30+) parties. i like to pve more than pvp. but in pvp i like war system more than arena. i absolutely hate open world pvp but if there is safe chanels i dont mind it (i hate to be pked while questing basically).

4.from what i expect for now : i expect a battle system more like tera, i don't expect too much HL content as the game is young, and i expect so much bot than general chat is automatically ignored


5. and if your answer to previous question is yes i'd like the game, which class would you recommend ? on tab-targeting mmo like aion i like distance dps like mage or gunner, on action-based system like tera i like melee more.
i liked tera tank with targeting grappling and such but didn't like aion tank
i liked heal in both but as i plan to play solo and not like voice server, heal is a little on the low side for me


Putting some numbers on

1. Visuals and gameplay is good and fun for a MMO, no question
2. Combat is TERA'ish and you can "fly" aka windrun as in Aion, so you'll find both games in BnS
3. You can easily quest you way towards max lvl. Some quests are fun, some are catch and kill. Story has lots of cinematics, and NPCs in the main quest are dubbed. Though grinding is faster 30+
Lots of dungeons, some solo'able some you need a party (4-6pp). Group finder is fast, but it's not "ingame"
There is no open world PvP/ PK if you don't want
4. Combat is better than TERA, more fluid, combos, ...
5. Class: Destroyer would fit you best. Blade Master and Ku Fu Master maybe as well
6. Every class has some selfheal. There is no tank, supoort, DDs.
Most support'ish is summoner i guess
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
February 18 2016 08:36 GMT
#77
So I made my way finally to level 45!!...

... and have no idea what to do next ^-^

Could anyone of you maybe give me some pointers?
1. Do i still need to hang on to my "main" weapon?
2. Do i still need to hang on to my "main" accessorys?
3. What soulshield to i get? Get first?
4. Where do i get my missing gear? belt and stuff?

What dailys are most important?
- Most Gold?
- Most gear upgrade stuff?

Thank you



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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 15:06:41
February 18 2016 14:27 GMT
#78
On February 18 2016 17:36 Harris1st wrote:
So I made my way finally to level 45!!...

... and have no idea what to do next ^-^

Could anyone of you maybe give me some pointers?
1. Do i still need to hang on to my "main" weapon?
2. Do i still need to hang on to my "main" accessorys?
3. What soulshield to i get? Get first?
4. Where do i get my missing gear? belt and stuff?

What dailys are most important?
- Most Gold?
- Most gear upgrade stuff?

Thank you




It's difficult to find reliable info, so take it with a grain of salt:
1. yes, your main weapon seems to remain standard from what I've read. There's a high crit alternative, but the main weapon remains the goto for ki recovery reasons.
2. Haven't found better accessories yet despite not upgrading them since forever. I don't think serious alternatives outside of pvp exist.
3. Most of the time the one from the purple dungeon you need to farm for the weapon. The new "standard" seems to be mushin's tower shield "endless tower". All soulshields vary highly in stats, so a good blackram supply chain shield beats a bad endless tower shield. That being said endless tower is tied for the highest possible crit stat and has overall more stats than most of the other ss.
4. The current belt to get is the purple one (Think it's called siren) from blackram supply chain. It's southwest in the piggy-farm world (hogshead ....). The other thing you can get you can either get from pvp or from either mushin's tower or from bloodshade harbor (don't remember which one). Think you can get it from a trader at the entrance.

Most gold are the 4 light blue dungeon-quests, the two blackram supply chain things, mushin's tower and bloodshade harbour. Outside of that the quests in misty woods. In general with how high valued moon tears are atm, farming pigsty and brightstone ruins is probably the fastest way to generate money. You might wanna try out the 4-man versions for even more money.
Also if you are f.e. a summoner you can pretty much solo clear Hall of Ogong and just get the tears yourself, if you can do it at a decent speed that's roughly 2 gold per 15 minutes, which is unbeatable.

Upgrade stuff is blackram supply chain for every accessory, the belt and later on the weapon, but since siren accessory upgrades cost roughly 60 gold (per upgrade!), I'd just either farm the belt and bracelet, or just normally go for the next weapon.

On a side note: I liked most of the story development in the last continent (except for the side quests in hogshead), so I recommend to play through the story first.

On January 30 2016 01:01 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:47 Dizmaul wrote:
I'm confused the PvP arena is a non-luck based equipment/ combat system where skill/ strategy decides. So what are you wishing for?

Its also where the esport of this game takes place for obvious reasons.

Disclaimer:
Classes may not be balanced perfectly so it might not always be pure skill and strategy haha.


Maybe i'm on the wrong track here, but isn't there like, a chance to crit? to pierce?
I'm relative new to the game so it's entirely possible i'm wrong ^^

Pierce isnt luck based.
Have read that defensive stats take the cake in pvp, so crit is prolly very low. I've only played faction pvp and there it's all about stunlocking people to death, so that tells a similar story.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
February 18 2016 15:50 GMT
#79
Don't forget PvP arena now that you are 45. If you are any good its another great way to make Gold and get EXP. Just hitting gold rank can get you 30 soul stones for 2k beans.
It is what it is
The Fish
Profile Joined March 2011
United States176 Posts
February 18 2016 16:17 GMT
#80
I tried this with some friends at release and have since dropped it.

To put it bluntly, I hate the combat. Why does a pvp game have to be focused around stunlocking? It's not fun to play. Fighting is interrupted by 10 second stunlock cut scenes like those bullshit characters in Mugen have.

I've played Tera so I can address that comparison. Tera is a PvE dress up game with bad PvP. BnS is a PvP arena game with bad PvE. Tera's combat is based on reading and dodging attacks. In essence you focus more on what the boss is doing in Tera. In BnS you focus more on your own combos. A blitzkrieg of lifesteal, spam, and stuns if you will. Thankfully both allow you to make cute little girl characters and live out your lifelong fantasy.
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