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pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
April 05 2015 09:02 GMT
#1101
I cant seem to download the patch.Any1 can help me with a direct link?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 05 2015 11:13 GMT
#1102
On April 05 2015 14:30 lprk wrote:
Ranger is definitely bad, wizard isn't that bad by itself but druid is just better wizard, from my experience monk only work as pure tank, dps builds are really hard to pull off as they are generally bit too squishy to take hits and if you build to take hits you aren't doing too much dps. Paladin is fine, if you want pure tank class tanks best in the game together with monk, it's dps build is decent, nothing spectacular but very consistent and benefits your party a lot for a dps character with aura, rez and debuff ignore.

My monk is my main damage dealer in my party that has Eder, Aloth, Kana, Durance and a custom rogue.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
April 05 2015 12:24 GMT
#1103
On April 05 2015 20:13 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 14:30 lprk wrote:
Ranger is definitely bad, wizard isn't that bad by itself but druid is just better wizard, from my experience monk only work as pure tank, dps builds are really hard to pull off as they are generally bit too squishy to take hits and if you build to take hits you aren't doing too much dps. Paladin is fine, if you want pure tank class tanks best in the game together with monk, it's dps build is decent, nothing spectacular but very consistent and benefits your party a lot for a dps character with aura, rez and debuff ignore.

My monk is my main damage dealer in my party that has Eder, Aloth, Kana, Durance and a custom rogue.


He was too for me until like level 6, and I built him wrong (too much con and very little of anything else), but then Aloth overtook him because he can just spam so much AoE.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 05 2015 12:27 GMT
#1104
In my experience Wizard is definately better than Druid. More AoE CC and debuffs, decent blasting abilities and the per encounter ability absotely destroyes shadows/shades if your wiz has high might. Just give the wizard an arbalest and keep it at range.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 05 2015 12:53 GMT
#1105
On April 05 2015 21:27 daemir wrote:
In my experience Wizard is definately better than Druid. More AoE CC and debuffs, decent blasting abilities and the per encounter ability absotely destroyes shadows/shades if your wiz has high might. Just give the wizard an arbalest and keep it at range.

Most of wizards spells are either damage or cc/debuff while druid spells tend to be damage+cc/debuff while usually also doing more damage, also druid has good heals (and summons to distract enemy, but they aren't that useful).
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
April 05 2015 13:07 GMT
#1106
On April 05 2015 18:02 pokerface wrote:
I cant seem to download the patch.Any1 can help me with a direct link?

nice try bro! how about you buy the original game?
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 05 2015 13:09 GMT
#1107
On April 05 2015 22:07 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 18:02 pokerface wrote:
I cant seem to download the patch.Any1 can help me with a direct link?

nice try bro! how about you buy the original game?

He might have bought GOG version, they have their own patches to download.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
April 05 2015 14:03 GMT
#1108
On April 05 2015 22:07 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 18:02 pokerface wrote:
I cant seem to download the patch.Any1 can help me with a direct link?

nice try bro! how about you buy the original game?


Are you mentally damaged or what?
My steam keeps freezing on me,that's why I asked for a dl link.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 05 2015 14:08 GMT
#1109
On April 05 2015 21:24 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 20:13 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 05 2015 14:30 lprk wrote:
Ranger is definitely bad, wizard isn't that bad by itself but druid is just better wizard, from my experience monk only work as pure tank, dps builds are really hard to pull off as they are generally bit too squishy to take hits and if you build to take hits you aren't doing too much dps. Paladin is fine, if you want pure tank class tanks best in the game together with monk, it's dps build is decent, nothing spectacular but very consistent and benefits your party a lot for a dps character with aura, rez and debuff ignore.

My monk is my main damage dealer in my party that has Eder, Aloth, Kana, Durance and a custom rogue.


He was too for me until like level 6, and I built him wrong (too much con and very little of anything else), but then Aloth overtook him because he can just spam so much AoE.

I rest rarely so Aloth does not spam damage spells but debuffs in my party. My monk then cleans house.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 05 2015 14:21 GMT
#1110
On April 05 2015 23:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 21:24 Random() wrote:
On April 05 2015 20:13 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 05 2015 14:30 lprk wrote:
Ranger is definitely bad, wizard isn't that bad by itself but druid is just better wizard, from my experience monk only work as pure tank, dps builds are really hard to pull off as they are generally bit too squishy to take hits and if you build to take hits you aren't doing too much dps. Paladin is fine, if you want pure tank class tanks best in the game together with monk, it's dps build is decent, nothing spectacular but very consistent and benefits your party a lot for a dps character with aura, rez and debuff ignore.

My monk is my main damage dealer in my party that has Eder, Aloth, Kana, Durance and a custom rogue.


He was too for me until like level 6, and I built him wrong (too much con and very little of anything else), but then Aloth overtook him because he can just spam so much AoE.

I rest rarely so Aloth does not spam damage spells but debuffs in my party. My monk then cleans house.

Yeah but monk to be able to do damage needs to be able to take damage too, and if he is built somehow tanky pure dps class will do way more damage.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
April 05 2015 14:36 GMT
#1111
I'm trying a solo run on PotD now. It has been really fun so far except for a period of time between level 3 and 4. Also it really helps you understand the mechanics of the game.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4338 Posts
April 05 2015 15:17 GMT
#1112
Aloth is good but a bit of a glass cannon, seems like the AI goes for him first when possible.I'm running two fighters - my main w/2H and eder with shield/sword combo.The NPC priest seems to do OK in melee for me as well, his weapon range allows him to stay back a little.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 05 2015 15:25 GMT
#1113
On April 06 2015 00:17 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Aloth is good but a bit of a glass cannon, seems like the AI goes for him first when possible.I'm running two fighters - my main w/2H and eder with shield/sword combo.The NPC priest seems to do OK in melee for me as well, his weapon range allows him to stay back a little.

You can edit your formation to put them further back and give priest ranged weapon, most enemies shouldn't be able to go past 2 fighters and if few manages you can snipe them before they reach your squishies.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11877 Posts
April 05 2015 15:41 GMT
#1114
On April 06 2015 00:25 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 00:17 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Aloth is good but a bit of a glass cannon, seems like the AI goes for him first when possible.I'm running two fighters - my main w/2H and eder with shield/sword combo.The NPC priest seems to do OK in melee for me as well, his weapon range allows him to stay back a little.

You can edit your formation to put them further back and give priest ranged weapon, most enemies shouldn't be able to go past 2 fighters and if few manages you can snipe them before they reach your squishies.


Assuming the 2 fighters have enough engagement slots. If you do it wrong two fighters can have 2 engagement slots in total.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 05 2015 15:58 GMT
#1115
On April 05 2015 21:53 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 21:27 daemir wrote:
In my experience Wizard is definately better than Druid. More AoE CC and debuffs, decent blasting abilities and the per encounter ability absotely destroyes shadows/shades if your wiz has high might. Just give the wizard an arbalest and keep it at range.

Most of wizards spells are either damage or cc/debuff while druid spells tend to be damage+cc/debuff while usually also doing more damage, also druid has good heals (and summons to distract enemy, but they aren't that useful).


Well looking at the level 1 best option for wizard in damage, Fan of Flames is 50-65(+Might*2%), the only spell a druid lvl 1 has that comes even close is Winter Wind, 30-50.

Druids have a bigger selection of damage spells, but I find them to be of lower values than wizard. Druids may get a better selection of what stat to attack though. Wizard CC/debuffs just blows any class in the game out of the water so that's not even a point.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11877 Posts
April 05 2015 16:02 GMT
#1116
On April 05 2015 23:36 fixed_point wrote:
I'm trying a solo run on PotD now. It has been really fun so far except for a period of time between level 3 and 4. Also it really helps you understand the mechanics of the game.


What class did you decide for and any items you tried to rush? The summoning items seem like must haves in my mind.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 16:19:49
April 05 2015 16:17 GMT
#1117
On April 06 2015 00:58 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 21:53 lprk wrote:
On April 05 2015 21:27 daemir wrote:
In my experience Wizard is definately better than Druid. More AoE CC and debuffs, decent blasting abilities and the per encounter ability absotely destroyes shadows/shades if your wiz has high might. Just give the wizard an arbalest and keep it at range.

Most of wizards spells are either damage or cc/debuff while druid spells tend to be damage+cc/debuff while usually also doing more damage, also druid has good heals (and summons to distract enemy, but they aren't that useful).


Well looking at the level 1 best option for wizard in damage, Fan of Flames is 50-65(+Might*2%), the only spell a druid lvl 1 has that comes even close is Winter Wind, 30-50.

Druids have a bigger selection of damage spells, but I find them to be of lower values than wizard. Druids may get a better selection of what stat to attack though. Wizard CC/debuffs just blows any class in the game out of the water so that's not even a point.

This spell pushes 5m too while doing ok damage, then druid gets lvl2 spell that does same damage with 80% attack speed debuff and is way easier to cast without hitting allies, while wizard gets exactly 2 more good damage spells both being heavily outclassed by druid storm spells.
If you think that wizard cc and debuffs blows any class in the game out of the water try cipher (who by the way deals a lot more damage than wizards).
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 05 2015 16:51 GMT
#1118
I did. Wasn't as impressed as all the hype made it sound. I'll take chill fog and (old) slicken still over them.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
April 05 2015 17:25 GMT
#1119
On April 06 2015 01:02 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 23:36 fixed_point wrote:
I'm trying a solo run on PotD now. It has been really fun so far except for a period of time between level 3 and 4. Also it really helps you understand the mechanics of the game.


What class did you decide for and any items you tried to rush? The summoning items seem like must haves in my mind.

Chanter with high pers/int/res (not constitution). That phantom is so good. Tried to rush to the horn in gilded vale post patch (so I can get a meatshield when I'm chanting 3 verses). Only managed to get it after going through the dungeon in Raedric's Hold. It is certainly possible to get it quicker with the discount, but I didn't realise I could sneak by the bandits to retrieve the supplies in Black Meadow.

I think summons are a must, or some really high stun resist because I keep getting perma-stunned by a single phantom in Caed Nua. Traps are also insanely useful.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 05 2015 17:27 GMT
#1120
There were few people on obsidian that finished triple crown with rogue+traps and abusing stupid ai with stealth.
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