Pillars of Eternity (Obsidian Isometric RPG Kickstarter) -…

On April 03 2015 20:28 malcram wrote:
why do my hirelings randomly attack me?

On April 03 2015 20:02 -Archangel- wrote:
The story is more similar to BG1, at least the presentation of it. You get a starting connection and are left to more or less wander around doing whatever until you want to continue with it. After Caed Nua, the open world wondering opens up even more. The game does not force you to do the story just like it didn't in BG1. In Bg2 it was a bit more in your face and after you went after Irenicus and Imoen your wandering was super limited.

Also in BG1 after the opening part you are just left with people complaining about iron shortage and iron weakness and except for assassins coming after you it does not feel like you are really connected with it or need to do anything about it right now.

In PoE you also wonder around and common problem is Hollowborn but you don't seem to be directly connected with it. BTW, I am not spoilering anything as I don't have a clue if your main story is really about Hollowborn or not (I am not that far into the game) but I see these things similar to how BG1 story was presented so I am guessing your story is connected to Hollowborn just like in BG1 you story did end up connected with Iron problems.

Personally I like PoE storyline to be more like BG1 as I enjoyed that freedom BG1 allowed.

On April 03 2015 21:20 Immersion_ wrote:


Early on it's quite similar as in there's an issue in the community which you are only possibly connected to, so you have to do some digging about your own condition. Overall the story is "better", I did like the BG story in the epicness stakes, but once you've played through the PoE it's actually quite interesting and there's not necessarily a right or wrong.

On April 03 2015 21:31 Morfildur wrote:


The difference in BG1 was that you had an antagonist when you left the tutorial keep, the mysterious black knight that killed Gorion. You continued in the story because you wanted revenge and you followed whatever clue you could find. You had the freedom to do whatever you wanted, but the lead-in was much more intriguing and personal.

Investigating the iron crisis in BG1 was something you did it because Khalid & Jaheira wanted to do it and they were the only connection to Gorion, so the connection was there. You didn't just do it because people complained, you did it because you wanted their help, which also shows a difference in followers. In BG1 they had personality and their own agendas, in PoE it takes forever for them to actually develop into more than a collection of (poor) stats and abilities.

On April 03 2015 21:27 Yurie wrote:


Edit, This time I'll read it as it was meant to and not as I read it the first time. I like PoE more than BG1, a lot more. BG1 didn't engage nearly as much and the power level felt even weaker. I even like PoE more than BG2, the choices feel like they matter more. In BG2 you just did stuff and they didn't feel like they impacted the world a lot, in PoE most stuff impacts it a lot more and has cascade effects.

On April 03 2015 21:31 Morfildur wrote:


The difference in BG1 was that you had an antagonist when you left the tutorial keep, the mysterious black knight that killed Gorion. You continued in the story because you wanted revenge and you followed whatever clue you could find. You had the freedom to do whatever you wanted, but the lead-in was much more intriguing and personal.

Investigating the iron crisis in BG1 was something you did it because Khalid & Jaheira wanted to do it and they were the only connection to Gorion, so the connection was there. You didn't just do it because people complained, you did it because you wanted their help, which also shows a difference in followers. In BG1 they had personality and their own agendas, in PoE it takes forever for them to actually develop into more than a collection of (poor) stats and abilities.

On April 04 2015 00:15 Xapti wrote:

I have no doubt that Raedric acted badly and that he wasn't someone that should be in power; I have issue with the fact that Defiance bay has no problem with him and hence one can't report him, the fact that noone else in Gilded Vale can be convinced to —peacefully or not peacefully— rebel against him or abandon him, the fact that generally the player doesn't seemingly go to talk to him, the fact that he gives really lame responses when one does talk to him, The fact that you can't just steal everything from him like Robin Hood, etc.

When American Japanese-ethnicity people were imprisoned in North America during WW2 for no good reason, or the American natives being abused and/or slaughtered in the past, does it mean it would be okay for a 3rd party to walk into the major political leaders' buildings and just start killing everyone? Sure there are real-life examples where military action is justified (or at least supposedly), but it's typically because the whole populace is rebelling or the country is attacking other areas, not just because one disagrees with their way of ruling.
Saudi Arabia has terrible laws in place, noone is stopping them. Women can't even freaking drive cars, and people can be killed for apostasy or mocking Muhammad. So why doesn't any one/group go in and kill all the government leaders over there? (rhetorical)

I know it's just a video game, but it still bothers me. Most video game actions are about personal events that occur, not a judge, jury, and executioner for other people's land.

On April 03 2015 23:55 Andre wrote:
This game's great, haven't played since sunday due to bugs though.

Wish they would fix the exploits too, atm triple crown solo seems more like a test of patience and time rather than skill. AI is dumb, and weapon switching is broken because you can skip recovery/reload animations.

On April 04 2015 01:37 balosan wrote:


Callin a game thats too buggy to play "great" is somehow funny. Waiting for patch since first few hours im just wondering if developers/testers played it a single time before release.