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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 30 2015 13:33 GMT
#881
This is expected guys from a game such as this.
At least nowdays we can expect quick patches and fixes withing weeks.
In the old days you were fecked until an expansion came out which would introduce new bugs anyway.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
March 30 2015 13:38 GMT
#882
Need to try that once I do get home, he is incredibly tanky compared to everyone else so that could be possible.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 30 2015 13:44 GMT
#883
It wouldn't be an Obsidian game without all the bugs, lol.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10856 Posts
March 30 2015 13:51 GMT
#884
On March 30 2015 22:33 Steveling wrote:
This is expected guys from a game such as this.
At least nowdays we can expect quick patches and fixes withing weeks.
In the old days you were fecked until an expansion came out which would introduce new bugs anyway.


There were also fan patches.

That then wouldn't work with the expansion.
So you either had a buggy „core“ game and a buggy expansion or a running core game and an extremly buggy expansion.

:D


But there was Shadowkeeper
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
March 30 2015 14:11 GMT
#885
Ranger seems terrible, a bow rogue is basically a much better version of a ranger with all the crit, opening a fight with a sneak attack, repositioning etc. Ranger seems to be balanced by having some of the dps on your companion, cept the pet usually dies and now you have penalties and lost a lot of your damage.
Yarr?
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1954 Posts
March 30 2015 14:35 GMT
#886
The game won't let me stop, but it's still not close to BG1 and 2. I just don't get why they can't get the stories of these games great. I mean, the soul stuff is good as a theme, but the first act and start of the second lack the urgency and personal tone of BG1 and 2. The game does neither feel very personal, nor does it give you the feeling that you have to succeed now. In fact, i don't even know why i should go after this leaden key, there is no threat to me. That was what made BG1 and BG2 great. YOU were having a huge problem and you were forced to move forward. In PoE, i really can't tell why i should do anything.

And that fortress is just the laziest thing ever. Oh, an empty castle, i should totally take this one for me, good that it has a ghost steward that can build the castle without help, i just need to american express some copper and she is good to go. These things are usually done to increase your experience because you feel like you have more impact on the world, but it's done so clumsy that it feels absolutely artificial.
It's still a great game, and it might become even better the more i play. First world problems :D
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
March 30 2015 14:37 GMT
#887
Hey guys, anybody got any tips on how to make your dudes do more damage? I feel like every single one of my guys hits like a wet noodle, even though they all have fine weapons.
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
March 30 2015 14:42 GMT
#888
On March 30 2015 23:37 Fildun wrote:
Hey guys, anybody got any tips on how to make your dudes do more damage? I feel like every single one of my guys hits like a wet noodle, even though they all have fine weapons.


Thats just the game. We need a balance mod soon, Combat is really annoying right now.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
March 30 2015 14:43 GMT
#889
On March 30 2015 23:37 Fildun wrote:
Hey guys, anybody got any tips on how to make your dudes do more damage? I feel like every single one of my guys hits like a wet noodle, even though they all have fine weapons.

Use weapons and spells that target enemies weaknesses. Use fire spells against shadows/shades, high damage weapons against armored enemies. Most useful spells i had was fire cone from wizard and ice cone from druid. Rogues deal extra damage right after leaving sneak mode for 2 seconds i believe
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 14:56:26
March 30 2015 14:54 GMT
#890
I only played through Act 1, but so far it doesn't feel as good as BG2. The secondary characters feel so bland that I'm tempted to just roll my own party, there is no iconic "Go for the eyes, Boo!" or Jaheira/Khalid relationship with the tragic ending/start in BG2. No evil party members that complain when you do good deeds, no good paladins complaining when you slaughter villagers (which I accidentally did and noone complained). Might be a bit early to call that though.

Quest design is decent, not exceptional, but not bad either. The story line doesn't intrigue me though, since there is no "villain". No Sarevok killing your guardian, no Jon Irenicus trying to use your powers, ...

Not a big fan of the combat and stats system, having Might be a major stat for mages just feels off. They seem to have tried to make all stats matter, i.e. no dump stats, but in the same turn they've also removed things like charisma that gave depth to your character. The lack of class-based weapon restrictions make some of the classes less interesting and the armor system with speed reduction causes weird effects where you'd use plate armor on spell casters since they aren't constantly casting anyways and their normal attacks are pathetic while using cloth for Barbarians since they then do an insane amount of damage and don't even get hit in the first place.

The crafting makes all weapons equal, so I no longer cheer when I find my first "sword+2", I just upgrade what I have and sell what I find. Sure, some weapons you find have unique enchantments, but since they aren't free, they also mean that you can't upgrade them as much.

It's a good game and I'll probably play it through to the end, but it could be much better if they had stayed closer to the core mechanics of BG/BG2 and introduced a main villain early on. Heck, I'd even take THAC0 with that.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
March 30 2015 15:10 GMT
#891
On March 30 2015 23:43 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 23:37 Fildun wrote:
Hey guys, anybody got any tips on how to make your dudes do more damage? I feel like every single one of my guys hits like a wet noodle, even though they all have fine weapons.

Use weapons and spells that target enemies weaknesses. Use fire spells against shadows/shades, high damage weapons against armored enemies. Most useful spells i had was fire cone from wizard and ice cone from druid. Rogues deal extra damage right after leaving sneak mode for 2 seconds i believe

Also remember to apply buffs and debuffs and utilise class talents; they are insanely useful this game. For example, you can debuff enemies easily with most characters and get your rogue to do massive damage.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
March 30 2015 15:11 GMT
#892
I might also be suffering from too good to use syndrome on those X per rest spells. I do use all the X per encounter spells every encounter though, so I guess that helps.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
March 30 2015 15:34 GMT
#893
On March 30 2015 23:35 Broetchenholer wrote:
The game won't let me stop, but it's still not close to BG1 and 2. I just don't get why they can't get the stories of these games great. I mean, the soul stuff is good as a theme, but the first act and start of the second lack the urgency and personal tone of BG1 and 2. The game does neither feel very personal, nor does it give you the feeling that you have to succeed now. In fact, i don't even know why i should go after this leaden key, there is no threat to me. That was what made BG1 and BG2 great. YOU were having a huge problem and you were forced to move forward. In PoE, i really can't tell why i should do anything.


in spoilers because spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
yeah they should have emphazised the struggle with becomeing awakend and the threat of losing your mind much much much more. i like it as a driving force for the plot but they implemented it so weakly its really sad, could have been a great atmosphere throughout the game.
when i think about it, a lot of their plot elements are really badly done in the game.
the leaden key is your mysterious ancient adversery, thousands of years old and appearently extremely powerful when they understand the engwithian technology and can destroy a whole district of defiance bay with just a few agents. its an incredible powerful enemy and how often do you face him? once. twice if you count the fight against the assassins at the beginning of act 3.
a lot of their plot devices are sadly very short lived and not very well flashed out. there are a few missed opportunities here which could have made the game a new bg2, but they arent quite up to it.

i still played 40 hours in 3 days.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
March 30 2015 16:07 GMT
#894
Guys, don't expect a kickstarter game to come anywhere close the near-perfection that was BG2. The game does not even come close to BG1, but it's still pretty fucking great in its own right.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 30 2015 16:09 GMT
#895
damage basically comes from talents, accuracy and passive damage/speed talents.


My rogue can stack all of those talents, he hits really hard.
I think barb can stack a few, too and has AE.



And yes, every decent mage somehow needs to be a bulky freak that can bend iron bars with bare hands and can pick up people at their collars all day.
Pretty sure they redid attributes after they made those roleplay scripts.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 30 2015 16:09 GMT
#896
On March 31 2015 01:07 True_Spike wrote:
Guys, don't expect a kickstarter game to come anywhere close the near-perfection that was BG2. The game does not even come close to BG1, but it's still pretty fucking great in its own right.


i judge by price, not by origin.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 30 2015 16:20 GMT
#897
On March 31 2015 01:07 True_Spike wrote:
Guys, don't expect a kickstarter game to come anywhere close the near-perfection that was BG2. The game does not even come close to BG1, but it's still pretty fucking great in its own right.


It costs 42 euro on steam so top quality should be bombarding you from every pixel of the screen every single second you play the game.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 16:32:54
March 30 2015 16:32 GMT
#898
yeah it should also wash your car and suck your dick for that kind of money
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#899
On March 31 2015 01:32 PassiveAce wrote:
yeah it should also wash your car and suck your dick for that kind of money


Well actually, that's the standard street whore price init?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 30 2015 16:47 GMT
#900
i would be very suspicious of a whore that charged $44.99
like why am I paying sales tax for a whore
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