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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 15 2012 10:25 GMT
#181
On September 15 2012 08:01 Resisty wrote:
I managed to find an FTP server that allowed me to download at 1.3 MB/s instead of the 20 kB/s on torrents :D.

I never played the original so I made some screenshots of my journey into the game:


Interesting.
I'll be curious to hear what you think about it.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 15 2012 10:39 GMT
#182
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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 15 2012 10:47 GMT
#183
On September 15 2012 19:39 zeru wrote:
This is the first game ive ever played where im getting motion sickness.


from a page earlier http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365503&currentpage=9#174
Maybe it helps
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 15 2012 11:40 GMT
#184
This is so extremely impressive :O

Just got to the crowbar (which was placed far later than in the original, had me scared that I had somehow missed it), and so far the game is a blast. The attention to detail, the production value, it's all staggering. I just hope it can keep this level of quality up for the rest of the game.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 15 2012 11:54 GMT
#185
On September 15 2012 20:40 Tobberoth wrote:
This is so extremely impressive :O

Just got to the crowbar (which was placed far later than in the original, had me scared that I had somehow missed it), and so far the game is a blast. The attention to detail, the production value, it's all staggering. I just hope it can keep this level of quality up for the rest of the game.


yea same i thought i missed it, using the flares was pretty jokes though lol. There is so much detail and the environment is awesome I'm liking it better then hl2
savior did nothing wrong
Wortie
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands212 Posts
September 15 2012 12:08 GMT
#186
What you also can do vs motion sickness, is setting the FoV higher. It will look less like a tunnel then.I get motion sickness from a too low FoV.

On September 15 2012 16:50 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
I love how some of these levels look, but...I can't stand the soldiers.

Yeah, they don't sound like robots anymore, but instead they sound...almost angsty. It's weird as hell.

What's worse, is they're absurdly difficult to deal with on hard difficulty...either you get a magnum headshot, or reload a save and surprise them with a grenade.

All of the xen critters / gaunts are a lot cooler (and tougher).


I actually like the difficulty in this game. If you set hl1 on hard, it's about as the same difficulty. You just can't handle the 1998 "hard" anymore. New games are all way too simple most of the time.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#187
I play through HL1 on hard once a year probably and Black Mesa is definitely harder. The soldiers are much quicker to shoot you so it's hard to get any damage in without taking a lot yourself. I find the MP5 useless against them because it takes too long to kill them whereas in HL1 it worked fine.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
September 15 2012 12:50 GMT
#188
On September 15 2012 21:08 Wortie wrote:
What you also can do vs motion sickness, is setting the FoV higher. It will look less like a tunnel then.I get motion sickness from a too low FoV.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 16:50 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
I love how some of these levels look, but...I can't stand the soldiers.

Yeah, they don't sound like robots anymore, but instead they sound...almost angsty. It's weird as hell.

What's worse, is they're absurdly difficult to deal with on hard difficulty...either you get a magnum headshot, or reload a save and surprise them with a grenade.

All of the xen critters / gaunts are a lot cooler (and tougher).


I actually like the difficulty in this game. If you set hl1 on hard, it's about as the same difficulty. You just can't handle the 1998 "hard" anymore. New games are all way too simple most of the time.


To be fair even games with a reasonably hard option these days have gotten better about having...not sure what the right word is quite, but "smoother" mechanics making them hard.

I was actually a bit disappointed in the change to the vortigaunts. Their attack was somewhat of an important detail and black mesa did away with it making them instead shoot just like any other enemy. It is the soldiers who seem improved from the old days thanks to the better AI, though the voice acting does make them seem as overused comic relief.

I'm in the embarrassing situation of being stuck on a simple puzzle. I just went off the rails after the rocket launch and there do not seem to be enough floating barrels to make this broken catwalk rise sufficiently to be crossed. Come on sprinting crouch jump...noooooooooo.
Moochlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States456 Posts
September 15 2012 13:21 GMT
#189
Im getting some micro stutter and frame drops, ehh still fun as hell!
blaaaaaarghhhhh
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 13:26:24
September 15 2012 13:26 GMT
#190
My only complaint (and this is super minor) is they changed the sound when you get health from those wall packs. It feels watered down a bit from the distinctly epic/relieving sound from hl1/2, I was all excited to use one for the sound and was disappointed haha.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 15 2012 13:29 GMT
#191
On September 15 2012 22:26 LuckyFool wrote:
My only complaint (and this is super minor) is they changed the sound when you get health from those wall packs. It feels watered down a bit from the distinctly epic/relieving sound from hl1/2, I was all excited to use one for the sound and was disappointed haha.

Nothing matches Valve sound designers, and they obviously didn't want to just copy stuff
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
September 15 2012 14:04 GMT
#192
Finished it today, was waaay longer than I thought it to be. That said, the end did catch me by suprise.

Overall enjoyable, though I didn't like how autoaimish the soldiers were, I think most it simply comes from that there's no hit reaction. Most modern games have targets stagger or flinch when you hit 'em. Also, 3 headshots with the pistol for a kill seems excessive.

Brought back the good 'ol Half life feel atleast, really good work
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
September 15 2012 14:57 GMT
#193
I'm such a huge Half-Life fanboy and I've been following progress on this remake for so long that having finally played it has brought me out of lurker mode. So, first post!

I've now played Black Mesa up to the start of "Power Up", and in short it's a frankly staggering achievement. One of the things that immediately struck me is how varied the NPC models are - you don't often see two scientists, security guards or HECU troopers that look exactly alike. The music can be a bit overzealous or out of place at times but broadly I really like that, too. My only real semi-criticism up to this point is that it's maybe a little bit easy? Having said that I've completed HL1 so many times that it becomes a real factor when it comes to difficulty.

Having said that, though, the subtle changes that the team have made throughout the chapters I've played so far make the game significantly more surprising than "just a remake" of the original game.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 18:20:12
September 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#194
On September 15 2012 19:25 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 08:01 Resisty wrote:
I managed to find an FTP server that allowed me to download at 1.3 MB/s instead of the 20 kB/s on torrents :D.

I never played the original so I made some screenshots of my journey into the game:


Interesting.
I'll be curious to hear what you think about it.

Wot I Think:

I will assume that outside of graphics and a few differences, it is pretty much exactly the same as Half Life 1. What I have encountered so far is pretty decent. The story is interesting enough that I want to actually hear it. The game have a good "atmosphere" about it. I walk around and explore all the little things in the beginning that make me laugh over something stupid in a way other games haven't in a long time; when I discovered you could lift trashcans and books, the first thing I did was put one over someone's head. Often I find myself in a small empty room and I'm actually scared to continue; the occasion zombie moan causes me to expect another one around the next corner.

Now being realistic, this is a linear FPS story. There are many doors with security locks that I wish I could enter just because I am curious. You will walk into a room from one door, and there will be only one exit. But the thing is, it doesn't feel like a linear corridor shooter. There is never a time where I walk somewhere I'm not supposed to and have the game tell me I shouldn't be there, like I've seen in COD. Enemies appear in scripted areas, but not so obviously that one will materialize out of nowhere. Having not played before, the enemies do surprise me when they suddenly burst out a vent.

The game is actually difficult which is nice since I've been so jaded that many modern games try to hold your hand and make things painfully easy. I'm playing on normal difficulty and I dip down as low as 25 occasionally since I do something stupid. I heard from others that later enemies actually have weapons and are very accurate with them. There aren't any ridiculous puzzles that can only be solved with the use of a guide which is nice.

All in all, the game is refreshing compared to some modern games and I can definitely see why many people enjoy the series and are hoping for HL3 (it's never happen).


On September 15 2012 17:39 Ludwigvan wrote:
I found a secret:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] The tunnel that ends in infinity!

+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
September 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#195
On September 16 2012 03:14 Resisty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 19:25 hugman wrote:
On September 15 2012 08:01 Resisty wrote:
I managed to find an FTP server that allowed me to download at 1.3 MB/s instead of the 20 kB/s on torrents :D.

I never played the original so I made some screenshots of my journey into the game:


Interesting.
I'll be curious to hear what you think about it.

Wot I Think:

I will assume that outside of graphics and a few differences, it is pretty much exactly the same as Half Life 1. What I have encountered so far is pretty decent. The story is interesting enough that I want to actually hear it. The game have a good "atmosphere" about it. I walk around and explore all the little things in the beginning that make me laugh over something stupid in a way other games haven't in a long time; when I discovered you could lift trashcans and books, the first thing I did was put one over someone's head.

Now being realistic, this is a linear FPS story. There are many doors with security locks that I wish I could enter just because I am curious. You will walk into a room from one door, and there will be only one exit. But the thing is, it doesn't feel like a linear corridor shooter. There is never a time where I walk somewhere I'm not supposed to and have the game tell me I shouldn't be there, like I've seen in COD. Enemies appear in scripted areas, but not so obviously that one will materialize out of nowhere. Having not played before, the enemies do surprise me when they suddenly burst out a vent.

The game is actually difficult which is nice since I've been so jaded that many modern games try to hold your hand and make things painfully easy. I'm playing on normal difficulty and I dip down as low as 25 occasionally since I do something stupid. I heard from others that later enemies actually have weapons and are very accurate with them. There aren't any ridiculous puzzles that can only be solved with the use of a guide which is nice.

All in all, the game is refreshing compared to some modern games and I can definitely see why many people enjoy the series and are hoping for HL3 (it's never happen).

It's great to hear from someone completely new to the game that they think it is good too. It's hard for us to judge without bias, because our opinion is clouded by nostalgia.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
September 15 2012 18:33 GMT
#196
On September 16 2012 03:14 Resisty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 17:39 Ludwigvan wrote:
I found a secret:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] The tunnel that ends in infinity!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I found a better secret:
[image loading]
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
September 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#197
It plays just as HL1 which is great! And yes soldiers has ridicoulous aim, needed several reloads on hard dif :p
Stork[gm]
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
September 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#198
I'm in chapter 9 atm and for the last hour I've seen the gman more times than I have seen a health pack lol...
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:01:56
September 15 2012 19:55 GMT
#199
Torrent option seems pretty good atm. I'm getting 1.6 Mb/s. So go for it. And seed while u watch DH.

edit. also I have both DH streams on so who knows how fast it could be.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
September 15 2012 20:14 GMT
#200
I really dig how if you actually save the scientists and security guys, some of them will give you stuff. It's great incentive. I got up to blast pit tonight, tomorrow who knows! Great game, and although I've beat half life 1 about 3 times, I still find this game highly enjoyable.
good vibes only
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