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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:58:54
September 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#201
Just finished it. Love the mod. Its way harder than I remember the original being, but also really enjoyable. Now we'll just have to sit tight and wait for the remaining few chapters.

Oh yeah. And the music. So frikkin' awesome!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 15 2012 21:00 GMT
#202
On September 16 2012 03:36 bgx wrote:
It plays just as HL1 which is great! And yes soldiers has ridicoulous aim, needed several reloads on hard dif :p


Yeah they need to town that down. Not because it's too hard, but because it's not fun. You can easily cheese them but it's more fun to have dynamic gunfights where stuff just happens.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 15 2012 23:16 GMT
#203
Haha, jumping in the tram makes you fly backwards, because that's how physics works, right? An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted on by jumping?

The music when you get the hev suit is awesome, thinking of downloading the soundtrack for it.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
September 16 2012 12:04 GMT
#204
That is why you never want to drop something in front of your face in an airplane. It'll plow into your face at hundreds of m/kmph!

I remember playing some source game, I want to say portal 1, and having my first run in with Havoc possessing proper momentum and marveling over how absurd it was that it 'felt wrong". Jumping in the tram when I first loaded black mesa up was the same thing in reverse.

You know it took too long to make when we end of talking about how the remake that was supposed to modernize the old classic has engine mechanics that make it feel old.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 13:24:31
September 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#205
seems really solid so far, super impressed. This is the first time I've actually felt scared in an FPS for a long time, headcrabs coming out of the walls oh god now I remember XD.

Also those moments where something warps in right next to you and you reflexively empty half a clip of precious ammo into it before going FUCK, just a headcrab. That's the sort of feeling I love to get in games, just like you would IRL if you panicked and overreacted to something.

One thing i dislike is the crowbar animation. It should really display a little cartoon *bop* every time you sock someone with it. It's adorable.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#206
Machine gun is so useless. Pistol does more damage and fires almost as fast..
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 13:40:31
September 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#207
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 16 2012 13:51 GMT
#208
On September 16 2012 22:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.


acceleration should not be a problem with shift pressed. And yeah you can't jump that high, but you don't have to. Do you know about "crouch jumping"? If not, that might help ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 16 2012 13:54 GMT
#209
Is it just me or is the silo with the plant alien much harder? You can't do the safe "crouch + sneak", and just crouching makes it kill you immediately, even if you can't even hear yourself. Do you really need to use granades to get past it?
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
September 16 2012 14:16 GMT
#210
On September 16 2012 22:54 Tobberoth wrote:
Is it just me or is the silo with the plant alien much harder? You can't do the safe "crouch + sneak", and just crouching makes it kill you immediately, even if you can't even hear yourself. Do you really need to use granades to get past it?


I just got past that part and crouch sneaking worked perfectly fine for me (Complemented with grenades to pull its aggro onto a different floor than I am on)
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 14:48:29
September 16 2012 14:48 GMT
#211
On September 16 2012 22:51 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 22:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.


acceleration should not be a problem with shift pressed. And yeah you can't jump that high, but you don't have to. Do you know about "crouch jumping"? If not, that might help ^^



Crouch jumping? Never heard of it.


Haven't played Black Mesa to that silo monster yet, but in HL I always just rushed through it, throwing grenades on the way. The way down is easy, but getting back up without sneaking is annoying.
Cauldron
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland125 Posts
September 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#212
Just got it installed. Will try after the WCS EU finals
Strabismus
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
September 16 2012 22:29 GMT
#213
Finished it today, it's really the best fan made thing or mod I've ever played. Better than most professionally made games. It manages to recreate yet reinvent the original game keeping it fresh but nostalgic, whilst making it look absolutely gorgous and play like a dream. It's crammed with little easter eggs and extras and comes complete with achievements. Aside from missing the last 4 or so chapters, I can't imagine it being any better than it already is.


It's a lot harder than the original and the vortigaunts seem to fire at you a lot quicker. So do the marines.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
September 17 2012 00:04 GMT
#214
On September 17 2012 07:29 Strabismus wrote:
Finished it today, it's really the best fan made thing or mod I've ever played. Better than most professionally made games. It manages to recreate yet reinvent the original game keeping it fresh but nostalgic, whilst making it look absolutely gorgous and play like a dream. It's crammed with little easter eggs and extras and comes complete with achievements. Aside from missing the last 4 or so chapters, I can't imagine it being any better than it already is.


It's a lot harder than the original and the vortigaunts seem to fire at you a lot quicker. So do the marines.


You ever play the original game on hard? Vorts could 2-shot you basically. Not as hard as the original, at least not on hard settings.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Zyrnak
Profile Joined February 2011
United States179 Posts
September 17 2012 00:13 GMT
#215
Forgive the heresy, but I've never actually played Half Life (1 or 2)

That said, what should I start with? Is this episode one or two? Which expansions are relevant? How should I go about getting the best gameplay+storyline experience?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
September 17 2012 00:39 GMT
#216
On September 17 2012 09:13 Zyrnak wrote:
Forgive the heresy, but I've never actually played Half Life (1 or 2)

That said, what should I start with? Is this episode one or two? Which expansions are relevant? How should I go about getting the best gameplay+storyline experience?


Black Mesa is a fan made re-make of the original game, HL1. If you want to start playing the series, you could start with HL2, but you'd be missing out on one of the best PC FPS games ever made. HL Source (basically HL 1 with a few graphical improvements) for super cheap, go buy + play it.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 17 2012 00:44 GMT
#217
On September 16 2012 23:48 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 22:51 green.at wrote:
On September 16 2012 22:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.


acceleration should not be a problem with shift pressed. And yeah you can't jump that high, but you don't have to. Do you know about "crouch jumping"? If not, that might help ^^



Crouch jumping? Never heard of it.


Haven't played Black Mesa to that silo monster yet, but in HL I always just rushed through it, throwing grenades on the way. The way down is easy, but getting back up without sneaking is annoying.


Never heard of crouch jumping?

Wut . .
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 00:52:15
September 17 2012 00:49 GMT
#218
On September 17 2012 09:39 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 09:13 Zyrnak wrote:
Forgive the heresy, but I've never actually played Half Life (1 or 2)

That said, what should I start with? Is this episode one or two? Which expansions are relevant? How should I go about getting the best gameplay+storyline experience?


Black Mesa is a fan made re-make of the original game, HL1. If you want to start playing the series, you could start with HL2, but you'd be missing out on one of the best PC FPS games ever made. HL Source (basically HL 1 with a few graphical improvements) for super cheap, go buy + play it.




If you want to experience the full story I suggest playing the original Half Life first and then the expansions (Blue Shift and Opposing Force). Its basically the same story told from three different angles. After that you can play Black Mesa and after having played the original you will see why everyone is so excited about this mod. Then I would suggest playing Half-Life 2 followed by HL2: Episode 1 and 2.
Half-Life Complete on Steam might be the best deal if you want the full experience. As a big fan of the series I'd say that its totally worth it.

That being said with this mod being out you can also consider skipping the original. Blue Shift and Opposing Force are not really necessary for the story. The only problem right now is that Black Mesa is missing the last 4 chapters as of now.

There is also a really good website if you want to learn more about the whole story but my advice is to visit this page after having played the games: http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/

Feel free to ask any more questions that might come up.

Edit: (just my opinion) Dont play half-life source, better go with the original, half-life source is basically the same game just with better looking water, worse movement and longer load times.
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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
September 17 2012 01:14 GMT
#219
On September 17 2012 09:44 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 23:48 h3r1n6 wrote:
On September 16 2012 22:51 green.at wrote:
On September 16 2012 22:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.


acceleration should not be a problem with shift pressed. And yeah you can't jump that high, but you don't have to. Do you know about "crouch jumping"? If not, that might help ^^



Crouch jumping? Never heard of it.


Haven't played Black Mesa to that silo monster yet, but in HL I always just rushed through it, throwing grenades on the way. The way down is easy, but getting back up without sneaking is annoying.


Never heard of crouch jumping?

Wut . .

It's a feature only exclusive to Valve games so I'm not surprised he hasn't heard of it. I've never seen it in any other FPS.
Hark!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 17 2012 01:36 GMT
#220
On September 17 2012 10:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 09:44 Disengaged wrote:
On September 16 2012 23:48 h3r1n6 wrote:
On September 16 2012 22:51 green.at wrote:
On September 16 2012 22:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Movement feels awkward, can't really accelerate, jumping too low/feels too low. On the plus side, you can slap people with a bible.


acceleration should not be a problem with shift pressed. And yeah you can't jump that high, but you don't have to. Do you know about "crouch jumping"? If not, that might help ^^



Crouch jumping? Never heard of it.


Haven't played Black Mesa to that silo monster yet, but in HL I always just rushed through it, throwing grenades on the way. The way down is easy, but getting back up without sneaking is annoying.


Never heard of crouch jumping?

Wut . .

It's a feature only exclusive to Valve games so I'm not surprised he hasn't heard of it. I've never seen it in any other FPS.



well he is saying he played halflife, though
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