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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 08 2014 22:40 Simberto wrote: Plot twist! Windwolf is actually the CEO of paradox. Hahaha | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
It's in the pre-1700s, I have expanded a good amount of my country and have done as many buildings as I could and even though I am really rich I can't do shit to invade anymore I am surrounded by Britania (basically France), Spain, Naples (basically Italy) Austria and a fuck ton of micronations on the top Britania, Spain and Naples are allied, Austria is allied with every small nations possible, I have a couple allies that always tell me fu when I need them (thx Britania, Hungary and Prussia) so I have a really low amount of alliances So even though I can buy every mercenaries possible, recruit armies until I don't have anymore manpower I always end up in a 1 vs everyone fight, I could probably take 1 of the bigger nations alone but all that, fuck no How am I supposed to get out of that? Also I take fights at stuff like 100 vs 70 and lose them when I have at least 30 canons in my armies and I don't think I am technologically late? And I take 3x more time to invade an area than my enemies, anyone know why? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11918 Posts
Sieging an area is based on the Fort level that is there, how many cannons and how much siege you have on your general, and terrain i think. Other than that, your problem sounds reasonablesounds reasonable. If Switzerland doesn't really expand until 1700, the other european actors are so strong they can not anymore. Starting with a small country isn't too bad, but you need to take the opportunities you can get. There is always SOMEONE weak that you can attack. If you wait until 1700, you have a problem. Generally speaking, i would suggest something like France or Ottomans as a beginner country, so you can get comfortable with the basic mechanics before playing a harder country. Nations are not balanced in this game. | ||
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Yurie
12118 Posts
On August 10 2014 05:11 Simberto wrote: Technology, generals, terrain are the big factors that influence battles (Never attack into mountains). Troop setup is kinda relevant, but mostly you need a frontline and cannons behind it, more isn't really interesting. Your mercenaries could be technologically behind, not exactly sure how those get determined. Sieging an area is based on the Fort level that is there, how many cannons and how much siege you have on your general, and terrain i think. Mercs never upgrade with tech. They keep whatever sort they were hired as. So you need to fire and re-hire once you get new types of units. They redid siege recently where mil tech, mil ideas effect siege time as well. Previously mil ideas added dots on the general directly. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
1. take back two cores from Savoy, while vassalizing a 2 province minor allied to Savoy in separate peace (I managed to get Tuscany). try to score alliances with Venice, Austria, and France, with France being higher priority. Ideally you want a province which will allow you to forge claim on Cremona as if you strike early enough you can vassalize the very rich Milanese in a single war. 2. vassalize Milan, vassalize Savoy (if you can't do this in one war, take Savoie I guess. The advantage of being allied with Austria is you wont take an unlawful territory hit doing this.) 3. With the Italian minors integrated you can really choose to push further south down Italy (this is the easier path by far, as eventually taking out the Ottomans will incur minimal AE with the Christians, though taking out Naples is a two war job assuming they're out of the PU with Aragon). I found a bit of opportunity with Castile/Burgundy declaring war on France, with me + random allies I was able to drive the boot in. End result: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t1tOEZ2.jpg) If you're doing a high-AE strategy like this, your diplomats that are not doing anything important should ALWAYS be improving relations. This is the best way to prevent game-ender coalitions. For the current patch version I really would suggest taking out southern Italy, if you're able to get enough allies to break the Ottomans it really is smooth sailing from there. You can continue building up a powerbase in the east so come lategame you can fight all of Europe np. Swiss military ideas are beastly. | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5FEtjJU.jpg) I'm allied to Crimea and Hungary. Crimea has Qara Qoyunlu as a vassal and is allied to The Mamluks, Nogai and Uzbek Venice is allied to France, Castille and Genoa Hungary has Teutonic Order, France, Savoy and Tuscany as allies Any suggestions of what to do? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11918 Posts
You could try to fight Hungary while France is busy with Austria, they should have problems getting to you. If you have a navy that can win against Castille & Venice combined, or manage to split their navies up and beat them individually, you could also attack Venice. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
To fight the BBB you'll need to lock down the Mediterranean trade nodes and then go insanely over your forcelimits. Don't go on the offensive if you get coalition-ed just never fight offensively sit in the balkans and let the powers bleed manpower coming to you. Even if you lose the battle you'll win the manpower war easy. | ||
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
I was allied to France and he got into a huge war vs Austria/40% of Europe (we being ~30), since I have a good royal wedding going with him I accept and we fight for years, we go full WW1 on that shit My army is too big for me, I lose money every months, I have to take loans, my nation is pretty unhappy with the war and all that but I don't care since our armies are big enough to just clean the rebels up and they slow down invaders When we start getting the advantage Austria tries to pull the white war card and sends me requests every months, he has no army left, just ~3 guys popping every so often so I refuse and I want to get my losses back at least a bit When I start invading Austria France is like "lololol, I got enough for myself", gets like 100 gold, 3-4 lands and puts an end to the war, I get absolutely nothing but a country ready to explode, debts and 0 manpower To stop losing money I have to reduce my army size, which I do and ofc at this moment rebels pop up everywhere, I don't have enough troops to fight them all since they can't heal (0 manpower), only Milan helps me cleaning them up (since he is my vassal) but he doesn't have shit either. And ofc, when I almost paid all my loans, stabilized my country, France goes "lol rdy for round 2?" and when I refuse he's like "WOW YOU'RE LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER, EAT SHIT, UNALLY, REPORT U" Would be great if there could be a better alliance system where they don't just unally you when you don't go to war with them or they help you eliminating the rebels and if you could get at least a little something after the war tldr: WW1, never again | ||
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Victolol
Germany46 Posts
 Vassals automatically have it, allies don't. When in war as a minor try to occupy provinces that share a border with you and your allies. This way they won't take any ( they will only take provinces they have a claim on or those right next to their territory) and will probably give you provinces instead (make sure to check the box in the war overview). | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
Also I had no core or claims, I just wanted some money, and since I play Switzerland playing defensive is the only thing I do since I'm in the center of every fights And question btw, is there a way to speed up the process of uniting with one of your vassals? It went from 5 years to 10 to never (negative growth), I think it may be because of the stability of my country? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
Are you paying attention to the number of diplomatic relations you have? Maybe it was in negative growth because you had way too many of them. | ||
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
I ally up with timurids, and soon after they go to war against Crimea (don't remember who declared on who) and they call me in before Crimea does, which I honored. Managed to siege up parts of Crimea and the Mamluks and eventually ends up separate peacing out them for 2 Mamluk provinces (Could have gotten more, but with the army situation right then I don't think I could've gotten a better moment to peace out). Soon after the war ends in a white peace and Crimea wants my alliance back  Also: My chance of getting discovered fabricating claims on Venice is only 0.06% right now | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
i dont mean how you win, rather how do u take something worth all that effort and time? it just kills my game experience that i wage war for 10 years with crimea+ottomans+timurdis, and i get like 4 provinces for it cuz otherwise overextension would turn my game into rebel wackamole... and ive already writen in this thread how much i hate how unrealistic rebel stacks are, and how it stops me getting immersed into the game even more than huge wars with no consequences for the loser, so its a lose-lose situation (even when i win)  also, if i cant have all that land, why in the hell is it so expensive (diplo points) to break a blob apart? when i tear timurds a new one, i should be able to give persia back huge amounts of land, yet every province costs 50 diplo points, which is almost costly as if i took it myself and wasted huge amounts of admin points on coring it... u just cant expand unless you're fighting OPM that u can fully annex for 0 diplo (cuz of claims and then u only have cost of coring)... its so unrealistic that france gets WAY ahead of me in diplo and admin cuz they stay in their borders and expand only by colonization, and i get punished for taking over all of africa and arabia, even tho in real life that would benefit me... not to mention they wage huge wars against austira all the time and only end up taking 100 gold or 1 province... when in reality its more like world war one with GB, spain, portugal, hungary and every other big euro nation involved in their conflicts... also, how in the fuck does it make sense that me taking literally one province in europe makes austria AND france join coalition against me, when i suffer no AE penalties there cuz im occupied on other continents? i know im playing a bad diplomatic game cause i chose to be aggresive instead, but 1 war with me taking 1 province should never raise a red flag with 2 euro superpowers that btw hate each other... | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10917 Posts
Wars against big Countries are just really, really stupid.... They get downright retarded if your fighting in sibiria or some other territory that kills your men on its own. You win the War. You siege for 100% warscore (and lose all your Manpower in the process). You get 4-5 provinces at most because no matter how badly you won, you can't go over 100% warscore. Its just stupid. In my last game i won a big ass war against Crimea... All i could do was release a tiny 2 province Vassal and take 2 provinces for myself... When you looked at the size of Crim (and me) thats just like absolutely nothing... The "Rebell"-Whackamole following is the least of my Problems (but also, just really stupid)... I just won a defensive(!) war and suddenly nationalistic rebells pop up in areas i owned and have cored for nearly 200 years? That just feels wrong. | ||
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