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On August 05 2014 02:15 WindWolf wrote:
I'm planning on buying the DLC that I'm missing, but I'm wondering how my existing save will be affected. Can I buy it safely or should I finish my game first
You can disable DLCs that you bought anyway, so even if they affected saves it shouldnt be an issue. I dont think they should affect them, but cant say that Ive tried.
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On August 05 2014 02:15 WindWolf wrote:
I'm planning on buying the DLC that I'm missing, but I'm wondering how my existing save will be affected. Can I buy it safely or should I finish my game first
Don't worry. I usually start a new game before a DLC drops in spite of myself and I've never had a problem after the patch. Even CK2 patches were backward compatible except for when they enlarged the map, which is not a problem EU4.
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On August 05 2014 02:38 Gladness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 02:15 WindWolf wrote:
I'm planning on buying the DLC that I'm missing, but I'm wondering how my existing save will be affected. Can I buy it safely or should I finish my game first Don't worry. I usually start a new game before a DLC drops in spite of myself and I've never had a problem after the patch. Even CK2 patches were backward compatible except for when they enlarged the map, which is not a problem EU4.
Yeah, I know that the game that I started before Res Publica was released worked fine after the patch that was released along with it. So new DLCs shouldn't be a big issue either.
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Can someone explain to me how the hidden stuff of the Golden Horde is affected by westernizing/reforming the government?
If i reform my government, i will change my traditions and unit types with muslim units and traditions, right? If i recall correctly, i heard that hordes don't ever get better units, so getting muslim units should be a big plus. Losing the traditions seems terrible though. I don't think any bonus will be better then no costs for reinforcing and the 5 less years for nationalism is crazy good as well. Do i get different national ideas as well? Cause that would suck even more. The crazy good government type would be missed as well :/ Can anyone provide me with the traditions i would get?
So basically, the way i see it, i am trading unit pips with manpower and money? Probably worth, considering i am a monster anyway. That is, if i don't lose my godlike national ideas.
Another question, is world conquest still possible? I would like to paint the map, but i currently don't see how. It's 1515, Nogai, Qara, Georgia are my vassals, half of Kazan and Crimea are mine, Moskva has one province in Siberia and Novgorod just lost half their provinces. But from here, i don't see myself keeping up the pace. The coring costs are just too big, especially if i want to reform the government as my first idea group was influence.
And finally another question. How do i become emperor? i can't join the empire because i am too large. If i vassalize electors, can they vote me in although i am not in the empire?
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The countries outside of Empire can become a Emperor (elctors can vote for You). It will require a converting to christianty if i recall correctly.
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On August 05 2014 02:58 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 02:38 Gladness wrote:On August 05 2014 02:15 WindWolf wrote:
I'm planning on buying the DLC that I'm missing, but I'm wondering how my existing save will be affected. Can I buy it safely or should I finish my game first Don't worry. I usually start a new game before a DLC drops in spite of myself and I've never had a problem after the patch. Even CK2 patches were backward compatible except for when they enlarged the map, which is not a problem EU4. Yeah, I know that the game that I started before Res Publica was released worked fine after the patch that was released along with it. So new DLCs shouldn't be a big issue either.
It worked, but decided to restart my game anyway because I realized I made some bad decisions 
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I started as Brandenburg and abused Bohemia as my ally to conquer every state that wouldn't become a vassal, then finally annexed them when I started some random war with one of their allies. I think France has 2nd strongest army and they've been allied with me for over 100 years, so nobody dares attack me, but I can attack everyone who isn't allied with them. I am also the holder of HRE, but I don't see how to make any use of it, aside from the emperor options for diplomacy (which seem pretty useless). Maybe because I converted to Protestant?
I also kind of regret going for expansion ideas. i won't be able to colonize anything except Greenland. America and Africa are basically taken and I don't have any meaningful colonial range to get a piece of Australia. Maybe I should just ship some regiments to NA and start a full out war against Great Britain idk.
Anyway, this is from a few years after I conquered straight through Austria to connect with my annexed Croatia, I had to dissolve half my army, because I was running out of manpower trying to crush rebels. I also had to give up my Dutch provinces, because I simply couldn't handle 70-80 regiments per province at the time lol.
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I also wonder why starting as a small country is supposed to be bad for beginners. I learned the most while trying to incorporate all the petty states in Germany.
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now u know why Germany should never have gone for colonies in the first place 
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Brandenburg is pretty much one of the easiest "small states".
Why don't you try to fight Poland/Lithuania and then Russia... That should take some time (and army :p).
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Switzerland2892 Posts
Considering playing that game because I've heard a ton of good stuff about it but I never played those games
Can anyone give me a quick tldp of the game? is it like TW games where you move armies on the map and micro fights? Or more eco and diplomacy orientated?
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You don't micro fights, diplomacy and decision making are the main focus of the game. Warfare is relevant, but usually the main problem is getting into a war that you can win, and that will allow you to take what you want, rather than actually fighting the war itself.
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
horde early game actually has a ton of battle timing / 'micro' required to really get the most out of their bonuses (the no-cost reinforce and horde defense +25% shock are incredibly powerful, and you'll almost be required to use them as tanking your manpower in a horde game = death)
you can play a style such that you will never declare a war you can lose, on the other hand playing aggressive against alliances at 2:1+ numerical odds can potentially be rewarding. A lategame Najd two-front war against a fully blobbed France and Russia was one of the more enjoyable wars I've played out in this game.
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Imagine world conquest with micro battles. 2025 provinces with most having to be taken over 2-3 times due to how peace works. :o A game would take a real life year.
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It is definetely a nice playstyle, one of the most interesting playthroughs so far. And it's also incribly powerful, but Ottomans are now 2 military tech above me and i can see how i won't be able to do much more damage to europe once i have taken the orthodox rulers out of the game. ANd if i reform the government, i lose so much of the fun.
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Switzerland2892 Posts
Ok I'm getting pretty convinced, but there seems to be a ton of dlcs and stuff, should I get the original game or the extreme edition which I suppose comes with the extension and all the dlcs?
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On August 07 2014 20:13 Velr wrote:
Brandenburg is pretty much one of the easiest "small states".
Why don't you try to fight Poland/Lithuania and then Russia... That should take some time (and army :p).
I have a Brandenburg game where I went right for the jugular of Poland/Lithuania as soon as I had smashed TO. Unfortunately the tech and idea differences were just too great for it to be a real challenge in the long run. Going for Austria with most of the HRE afterwards, with a war against France and Spain as an extra challenge was fun though.
I still need to finish that game, but it has been one of the most enjoyable I have ever had. The fact that I ignored expansion into the HRE for the most part mean I could expand like crazy into eastern Europe, and since most western european nations were doing great, I kept having a challenge even into the 1600's. Then the game turned more into a diplomatic challenge, as I had to balance expansion, diplomacy, HRE politics and economics.
I succeeded in forming the HRE with all the princes swearing loyalty - including a super Tuscany that controlled most of southern Europe - excluding Iberia.
EDIT: Going East with Brandenburg is definately the way to go if you want a fun and challenging game - with the added bonus of becoming a huge blob faster than most other options.
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On August 08 2014 00:51 pPingu wrote:
Ok I'm getting pretty convinced, but there seems to be a ton of dlcs and stuff, should I get the original game or the extreme edition which I suppose comes with the extension and all the dlcs?
The original game is good enough, the important DLCs, the "expansions", are mostly good to have but nothing really groundbreaking. They do have some very specific content, for example if you want to play a colonial nation you need a certain DLC, but for someone starting out it's far from necessary. It all depends on how much you value your money.
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On August 08 2014 00:51 pPingu wrote:
Ok I'm getting pretty convinced, but there seems to be a ton of dlcs and stuff, should I get the original game or the extreme edition which I suppose comes with the extension and all the dlcs?
Start with the basic game. The content DLCs are good (Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, Res Publica) and worth buying eventually but most of what they add will already be patched into the base game. Steam tends to put old DLC on sale when a new DLC comes out, which is the cheapest way to catch up. If you like this game you're going to play hundreds of hours of it, so there's really no rush.
There are a lot of really minor cosmetic DLCs, so it's usually not worth buying unless you specifically know you want it. Having never played as the Ottomans, I don't feel much need to download a special soundtrack or unit models for them. Don't let me stop you from arbitrarily giving more money to the developers though, I'm pretty sure they deserve it.
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On August 08 2014 03:53 Gladness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 00:51 pPingu wrote:
Ok I'm getting pretty convinced, but there seems to be a ton of dlcs and stuff, should I get the original game or the extreme edition which I suppose comes with the extension and all the dlcs? Start with the basic game. The content DLCs are good (Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, Res Publica) and worth buying eventually but most of what they add will already be patched into the base game. Steam tends to put old DLC on sale when a new DLC comes out, which is the cheapest way to catch up. If you like this game you're going to play hundreds of hours of it, so there's really no rush. There are a lot of really minor cosmetic DLCs, so it's usually not worth buying unless you specifically know you want it. Having never played as the Ottomans, I don't feel much need to download a special soundtrack or unit models for them. Don't let me stop you from arbitrarily giving more money to the developers though, I'm pretty sure they deserve it.
Yep, not only is Paradox a really nice company, their CEO is probably the best CEO in the games industry if you ask me. Like, he's really nice to talk to on twitter, even if you are "just another fan"
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On August 08 2014 04:04 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 03:53 Gladness wrote:On August 08 2014 00:51 pPingu wrote:
Ok I'm getting pretty convinced, but there seems to be a ton of dlcs and stuff, should I get the original game or the extreme edition which I suppose comes with the extension and all the dlcs? Start with the basic game. The content DLCs are good (Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, Res Publica) and worth buying eventually but most of what they add will already be patched into the base game. Steam tends to put old DLC on sale when a new DLC comes out, which is the cheapest way to catch up. If you like this game you're going to play hundreds of hours of it, so there's really no rush. There are a lot of really minor cosmetic DLCs, so it's usually not worth buying unless you specifically know you want it. Having never played as the Ottomans, I don't feel much need to download a special soundtrack or unit models for them. Don't let me stop you from arbitrarily giving more money to the developers though, I'm pretty sure they deserve it. Yep, not only is Paradox a really nice company, their CEO is probably the best CEO in the games industry if you ask me. Like, he's really nice to talk to on twitter, even if you are "just another fan"
Plot twist! Windwolf is actually the CEO of paradox.
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