EPTOn April 21 2014 10:20 SKC wrote:
Only thing I miss from EU3 + expansions is the earlier starting date.
Only thing I miss from EU3 + expansions is the earlier starting date.
There are at least two mods that change the starting date.
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Yurie
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There are at least two mods that change the starting date. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On April 21 2014 02:05 Chocolate wrote: Ah, I went for expansion first because I guess I got greedy (and wanted to get the free casus belli), and then offensive. I forgot how much religious helped, I'm going to get that next (or maybe diplo). It's less like Risk and more like roleplaying as a historical nation. Actually, I'd say it's most similar to the civilization series, but on a different scale: there is much more detail, and the game takes place over a set time period. Don't try to do world conquest. You will probably fail your first couple of times, and going for WC makes the game tedious and gamey as fuck. If you do get the game, start as an easy nation like France, Castille, or Austria for your first game. It also has the replayability of civ, I think. You can easily log several hundreds of hours in most paradox games, or even thousands. Decided to buy it after playing a bit of the demo. Absolutely loving. Playing as the Ottoman empire circa 1530 by now. Enjoying some of the many nuances, and I'm sure there's a shit ton of stuff I haven't even found yet. | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
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Yurie
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On April 21 2014 22:33 Mercy13 wrote: Does anyone have some general advice on how to manage trade/trade nodes? http://www.eu4wiki.com/Trade#Trade_nodes This section of the page is general and good. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yFtiu1h.jpg) and this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TbF02As.jpg) Now I just need to beat down a 250k army / 240k manpower Russia | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
My economy is pretty decently strong (~180d/month from trade), and I'm beating up England, who are the only guys with enough heavies that could possibly sink my trade fleet. I'm not greedy, all I want is London. Going to complete quality ideas, and on to the final showdown (its a completely uninhibited Russia, I couldn't really do anything to them early). Also, a neat trick - giving your colonial nations military leaders seems to really up their bloodlust, almost every time I look back at the New World, its a constant war between Newfoundland and my CN | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
I also use the counter-revolution trick to get near-permanent 6/6/6 rulers as republic. As long as you don't mind occasionally being stuck at 0 legitimacy because you are at war with emperor and thus can't find a merchant republic to lose to, its a nice way to counter-balance the normal weaknesses of a republic. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
Would you guys suggest start playing for the achievements, it seems like the next step. Is it worth playing on hard mode at all? The normal mode seems to provide a challenge for smaller nations in the start but it seems to peter off a bit after I get my empire going. Are the mods worth learning after playing the base game? What about the other paradox games? I wasn't too into CK2 but didn't play that for long and HOI3 wasn't my theme. Any advice for the lazy player who doesn't like to mass siege or fight mass siege? I prefer keeping vassals for these sorts of things but not sure if it is worth the relations spot(s) for them. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
As far as winning wars where you don't want to siege, you can assault, its incredibly manpower efficient but if you have the merc money / manpower to burn why not (I recall a DDRjake campaign where he was assaulting Western cities with 150k+ Aztec mercenary stacks, it actually wins sieges quite fast). Vassals are invaluable and well worth the relation slots as they allow you to take a lot of land for low aggressive expansion. There's a reason why a lot of people consider diplomatic idea groups the best idea group in the game. Thinking about playing something in the Eastern Europe area for my next campaign - I've narrowed it down to ether Crimea or Ukraine (releasing Ukraine from Lithuania and beginning then swapping to vassal) - with goal of conquering holding all of Ukraine / Crimea / Russia proper. Hordes seem to have some pretty nasty mechanics but they do seem to be interesting. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11792 Posts
On April 22 2014 13:20 SwatRaven wrote: I am so glad there is a thread for this because it was what peaked my interest into getting the game, which is fantastic! Probably 40-50 hours into so far. Learning something new about the game (what diff religion does, hordes etc.) on every play through is what keeps me coming back. I seem to abandon games I don't see much more potential for continuing (killed iberians france russia ottomons), is it worth just capturing the rest of the provinces? Would you guys suggest start playing for the achievements, it seems like the next step. Is it worth playing on hard mode at all? The normal mode seems to provide a challenge for smaller nations in the start but it seems to peter off a bit after I get my empire going. Are the mods worth learning after playing the base game? What about the other paradox games? I wasn't too into CK2 but didn't play that for long and HOI3 wasn't my theme. Any advice for the lazy player who doesn't like to mass siege or fight mass siege? I prefer keeping vassals for these sorts of things but not sure if it is worth the relations spot(s) for them. I really like playing for the achievements, as they basically just give you a few goals to hunt for that are not pure blobbing. It's what missions would be in another game. | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
Its pretty cool that there's actually a substantial attrition difference if you don't try to campaign during the winter months. | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
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Netherlands6271 Posts
On April 22 2014 13:20 SwatRaven wrote: I am so glad there is a thread for this because it was what peaked my interest into getting the game, which is fantastic! Probably 40-50 hours into so far. Learning something new about the game (what diff religion does, hordes etc.) on every play through is what keeps me coming back. I seem to abandon games I don't see much more potential for continuing (killed iberians france russia ottomons), is it worth just capturing the rest of the provinces? Would you guys suggest start playing for the achievements, it seems like the next step. Is it worth playing on hard mode at all? The normal mode seems to provide a challenge for smaller nations in the start but it seems to peter off a bit after I get my empire going. Are the mods worth learning after playing the base game? What about the other paradox games? I wasn't too into CK2 but didn't play that for long and HOI3 wasn't my theme. Any advice for the lazy player who doesn't like to mass siege or fight mass siege? I prefer keeping vassals for these sorts of things but not sure if it is worth the relations spot(s) for them. Don't continue playing games which start to get boring there's really no point. I can recommend to play for at least some achievements I just did the Byzantine ones it was a really fun game. The Byzantines are probably my favourite country to play as anyway.. Other Paradox games are definitely worth it I've played EU 3&4, Ck2 and Victoria 2. Victoria 2 is by far the best gameplay wise it's pretty complex and there's a lot to do during peace time (something EU4 lacks). My first Victoria 2 game as the Netherlands had nearly no conquest and it's probably one of my favourite playthroughs of any game ever. | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On April 22 2014 23:34 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: You don't conquer Russia in the Winter - Unless you are the Mongols (Points for those who get the reference). ![[image loading]](http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/m5nlD2CR7tI/maxresdefault.jpg) | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bXDVea5.jpg) I'm pretty sure this is about the luckiest Crimea start possible. Vassalize Georgia in first war, take all three cores off Golden Horde, Ryazan vassalized, Russia has ZERO vassals due to losing war with Lithuania. Oh, and its only 1454. | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
I won the HRE as England so I got a PU with france, I ally with Austria, Castille and Portugal to beat up Burgundy while I conquer Scotland. When Castille eventually rivaled me I won a couple of wars vs them and forced them to release Galicia, Granada and stop the PU with Aragon while also taking provinces on the northern coast. And then I got a PU over Austria after a swift war vs Burgundy, so the plan now is just to become emperor, which should be easy when there is no strong emperor  Also made me realize how much easier it is to release nations and vassalize them and sell them cores than it is to core the provinces myself | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1961 Posts
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