EPTEuropa Universalis IV - Page 22
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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mTwRINE
Germany318 Posts
But yea overall, admin tech is not giving enough return for the slower progress on other fields. But playing with Innovative or Eco is really nice change of pace, because cheaper advisors+constant high traiditon+prestige or -inflation lets you take those inflation for point popups and cheaper buildings add up really fast, especially if you go conquering 24/7 and invest mostly into manufactorys, since you are lacking the monarchpoints. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
i don't mind admin tech that much, so long as you know when to start saving and maybe hire advisor for tech cost reduction. new idea groups are pretty powerful, but running with offensive + quality is pretty much guaranteed for most nations i think. defensive is really good too, though, esp. late game (attrition) oh, you guys mean the tech group as a whole. yeah, it's a little lame. It's okay depending (I used it as Byz, but Byz is fucking easy once you win the first war vs. Ottos), but its a little weak. In EU3 MM, you would get bureaucracy and that would greatly increase your administrative efficiency, but now its kinda meh as a tech group. It's just not that useful overall. | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On August 23 2013 03:12 rezoacken wrote: Am I the only one not really able to pick an Administrative Idea ? On the eight available, by the end of my game I have picked 1 Admin idea and had trouble finishing it... Unless you play a peaceful game where you don't need coring I can't really see myself putting much points there seeing how much coring and stability boost cost. Take administrative, it reduces coring cost, making it worthwhile even if you tend to expand, I'd say. | ||
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mTwRINE
Germany318 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On August 23 2013 07:44 pedrlz wrote: there is anyway of that I can improve the thoughts of my country towards another? I want to get an alliance with a border country but I have -31 because border friction t.t Improve Relations Send Gift Royal Marriage Alliance Same Religion Enemy of their enemy | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
help in war and stick it out sry misread, i thought u ARE in an alliance. 1 diplomat on a mission always gives me +100 after some time. Even Marocco that should hate me and that i have an embargo against, is actually +50. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On August 23 2013 08:37 MoltkeWarding wrote: Improve Relations Send Gift Royal Marriage Alliance Same Religion Enemy of their enemy I think hes talking about YOUR countries opinion of THEM, not the other way around | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On August 23 2013 09:15 KtheZ wrote: I think hes talking about YOUR countries opinion of THEM, not the other way around Oh, then this is where the historical sandbox breaks down into a badly-conceived game. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On August 23 2013 09:16 MoltkeWarding wrote: Oh, then this is where the historical sandbox breaks down into a badly-conceived game. I like to think your country's opinion of them is like your court and your country's general perception of that nation. The king was not the sole ruler of a nation, the king did have to bend to the will of the nobility to a limited extent | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
I can sort of understand why it is that way, but it makes it frustrating when there are no ways to improve it. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On August 23 2013 10:40 MattBarry wrote: I like to think your country's opinion of them is like your court and your country's general perception of that nation. The king was not the sole ruler of a nation, the king did have to bend to the will of the nobility to a limited extent I played an Absolute Monarchy Prussia. I was the state. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On August 23 2013 06:12 Elegy wrote: mil tech 12 and 16 (16 is when you get latin caracole cav i believe) are the only real military techs you need, and admin grows fast enough if you don't waste it on useless shit. wtf am i reading mil tech 5 gives you 40% more dmg over someone who is mil tech 4. every military tech is huge, and if its not huge it means the wars youre fighting were decided before tech mattered. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On August 23 2013 07:44 pedrlz wrote: there is anyway of that I can improve the thoughts of my country towards another? I want to get an alliance with a border country but I have -31 because border friction t.t same religion, royal marriage, ask for access and set your rival to the same as theirs. is a total of +85. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:47 turdburgler wrote: wtf am i reading mil tech 5 gives you 40% more dmg over someone who is mil tech 4. every military tech is huge, and if its not huge it means the wars youre fighting were decided before tech mattered. meh, tech 5 comes so early that it usually comes around before differences in idea groups and specific choices enable some countries to pull ahead. my post was aimed at something beyond the first couple decades anyways, EU4 is fun but as usual just too easy. only challenge comes from player restraint really, which is somewhat sad. Still fun, but when you have to handicap yourself deliberately it removes some of the entertainment (at least for me). definitely one of the more polished Paradox games to come out when first released, though | ||
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:53 Elegy wrote: anyways, EU4 is fun but as usual just too easy. only challenge comes from player restraint really, which is somewhat sad. Still fun, but when you have to handicap yourself deliberately it removes some of the entertainment (at least for me). definitely one of the more polished Paradox games to come out when first released, though Most paradox strategy games were easy in vanilla. By design. And easy mostly for someone that has previous experience with the genre. For someone green some of them can be quite daunting. That being said, just wait for mods, M&T's development is in full swing (a fusion of Death&Taxes and MEIOU for anyone interested). And its polished in the sense that there are no glaring bugs (apart from merchants changing transfer directions ranomly...), but some key features are missing and/or unpolished. The game was rushed for release IMO, hopefully this will be ironed out in near patches. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On August 23 2013 13:53 Elegy wrote: meh, tech 5 comes so early that it usually comes around before differences in idea groups and specific choices enable some countries to pull ahead. my post was aimed at something beyond the first couple decades anyways, EU4 is fun but as usual just too easy. only challenge comes from player restraint really, which is somewhat sad. Still fun, but when you have to handicap yourself deliberately it removes some of the entertainment (at least for me). definitely one of the more polished Paradox games to come out when first released, though i have nearly 1/3 bigger army, better leader but with my mil. tech 6 i just get rolled by one with 11 ... no idea what u play ^^ also DANGER this game is DRUG i played it last week every day 10+ hours | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On August 23 2013 14:33 myzael wrote: Most paradox strategy games were easy in vanilla. By design. And easy mostly for someone that has previous experience with the genre. For someone green some of them can be quite daunting. That being said, just wait for mods, M&T's development is in full swing (a fusion of Death&Taxes and MEIOU for anyone interested). And its polished in the sense that there are no glaring bugs (apart from merchants changing transfer directions ranomly...), but some key features are missing and/or unpolished. The game was rushed for release IMO, hopefully this will be ironed out in near patches. Yep, agreed. mods are where paradox games shine, and this game will be -astounding- after like...oh, a year of mod development or so. I played probably 500 hours of magna mundi over the course of the years, for example. Maybe more, come to think of it | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On August 23 2013 14:44 Drake wrote: playing on ironmode makes it not that easy, playing byzantinium i needed a few trys before understand how to own with them i have nearly 1/3 bigger army, better leader but with my mil. tech 6 i just get rolled by one with 11 ... no idea what u play ^^ also DANGER this game is DRUG i played it last week every day 10+ hoursI just think the guy is downright wrong. In most cases, an army with 1 or at least 2 steps higher MIL tech will own you, you need a massive advantage of numbers to stand a chance and even then it will probably be cost-inefficient because you will lose manpower too quickly. | ||
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