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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 10 2016 20:45 GMT
#3181
How do you prevent your colonial countries from eventually warring against you for independence?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
January 10 2016 20:51 GMT
#3182
You dont make em too big, and you dont take too many (if any) + tariffs
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 10 2016 22:55 GMT
#3183
But the whole point is to make them big.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 23:11:33
January 10 2016 23:06 GMT
#3184
Be carefull with tarrifs, try to have as high relations as possible. Try not to choose events increasing liberty desire. I never had colanial nation rebeld against me....
Pathetic Greta hater.
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 23:36:49
January 10 2016 23:23 GMT
#3185
I just would never do any tariffs at all if you plan on making large colonial nations, only if you plan on only taking important trade provinces and moving on elsewhere. In my France game my colonial nations hovered around 45% liberty desire without any tariff increasing decisions and I had ~4000 development. That was with every single colonial region province under my subjects control. You're never going to get a whole continent peacefully under your control if you're only Portugal sized for example.
Forward
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 11 2016 09:03 GMT
#3186
also maintain a big army and navy
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
January 11 2016 09:52 GMT
#3187
On January 11 2016 18:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:
also maintain a big army and navy

This is basically the answer to most questions ^^. Be big.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 10:44:11
January 11 2016 10:43 GMT
#3188
rofl Marco just one-tag WC'd as Jianzhou in 1632.
?
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 11 2016 12:57 GMT
#3189
On January 11 2016 19:43 419 wrote:
rofl Marco just one-tag WC'd as Jianzhou in 1632.


o_O
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 22:56:47
January 11 2016 22:54 GMT
#3190
managed to get emperor as prussia
not bad

changed my strategy up as brandenburg and instead of trying to conquer the teuts(which poland had already split) the day the truce ended i immediatly declared war and let PLC fight them, then vassalized them. caused poland to break alliance which let me get austria and hungary so they wouldnt declare on me
#gotem
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
January 12 2016 07:15 GMT
#3191
On January 11 2016 19:43 419 wrote:
rofl Marco just one-tag WC'd as Jianzhou in 1632.


Fuck me I thought his HOI3 achievements were his best but that takes the cake.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3271 Posts
January 12 2016 11:14 GMT
#3192
On January 12 2016 07:54 arb wrote:
managed to get emperor as prussia
not bad

changed my strategy up as brandenburg and instead of trying to conquer the teuts(which poland had already split) the day the truce ended i immediatly declared war and let PLC fight them, then vassalized them. caused poland to break alliance which let me get austria and hungary so they wouldnt declare on me
#gotem

Yeah Poland pretty much always breaks alliance when you take teutonic order areas (outside of Neumark). I most of the time just let Poland have them or stall Poland by dow on TO, call Poland and take only money for maximizing the truce.
low gravity, yes-yes!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 12 2016 11:55 GMT
#3193
On January 12 2016 20:14 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 07:54 arb wrote:
managed to get emperor as prussia
not bad

changed my strategy up as brandenburg and instead of trying to conquer the teuts(which poland had already split) the day the truce ended i immediatly declared war and let PLC fight them, then vassalized them. caused poland to break alliance which let me get austria and hungary so they wouldnt declare on me
#gotem

Yeah Poland pretty much always breaks alliance when you take teutonic order areas (outside of Neumark). I most of the time just let Poland have them or stall Poland by dow on TO, call Poland and take only money for maximizing the truce.

My problem playing bburg is if you lose konigsburg to poland its really really hard to get someone who can actually beat them.
usually if i want a prussia game i just play as the teuts since you already have everything required you just need the admin level + protestant thing.

[image loading]

this is me currently, austria is currently integrating hungary who they pu'd in like 1540 or something
i think i just lose when that happens but we will see.
muscovy has been shit on constantly which is really annoying.

also dont see the point in annuling treaties when you get a truce for 15 years and they can have all their allies back before the truce expires :S
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
January 12 2016 12:23 GMT
#3194
The length of a truce is based on how much warscore the peace deal is worth. So in your situation, if Saxony and Poland were allied and you won a war against them you could sign a separate peace with Saxony breaking their alliance with Poland and take 100 warscore of provinces from Poland. This gives you a 6 year truce with Saxony and a 15 year truce with Poland. So with annul treaties lasting 10 years you now have a 4 year window to kill Saxony before Poland can ally them again.
Forward
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-12 23:25:30
January 12 2016 23:05 GMT
#3195
if you pass the treaty to make protestant or catholic able to become emperor, do you lose that -00 imperial authority thing for heretic princes?

also how does the maria theresa thing work for austria?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 14 2016 02:10 GMT
#3196
Can someone explain in lengthy format or direct me to a treatise on trade in this game? How do I make decisions about mercantilism, collecting trade, redirecting trade, protecting trade, privateering, etc.?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
January 14 2016 03:02 GMT
#3197
Always increase mercantilism when you can, direct trade into the node you're collecting from. Using a merchant to collect trade in your trade capital is worse than transfer trade, unless you have very little trade power in your home node to begin with. Protecting trade adds small amounts of trade power (+2 per ship?), so most of the time you will just want to protect your trade capital to maximize trade income and lower the income of others collecting there. I usually just use my starting light ships to protect trade until they die and then I don't bother, they don't have a lot of impact.

Trade is actually super simple, it just looks confusing because of all the data that gets thrown at you. All you need to know is that steering trade (while not collecting with a merchant anywhere but your home node) increases your trade power by 10% per merchant. More trade power in your home node = more monies. More trade power in nodes that transfer trade to your home node = more monies. That's all.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 14 2016 03:42 GMT
#3198
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Trade

The mechanics are complicated but the decisions are simple.

How many light ships do you guys use to protect your important nodes later in the game?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 04:20:38
January 14 2016 04:19 GMT
#3199
So light ships are worthless?

Like I don't even understand what half the information is. If I choose to protect trade somewhere and it offers me the breakdown on some gold to some gold that doesn't seem to show up in my income every month. I really have no idea what's going on.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 04:28:22
January 14 2016 04:27 GMT
#3200
light ships are important, but less so for your home node until later. You should see a jump in trade power and gold transferred or collected when you assign ships to protect a node.
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