EPTYou should core it!
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On December 27 2014 04:38 Ramong wrote: wow, just wow... that base tax. You should core it! I'm pretty much done with getting what I want in Europe and the Americas, was about to go into India when I urgently needed the admin points to get humanistic ideas to get rid of the nasty religious tolerance events. Colonisers will go for Africa now, admin points to grabbing land in India in a direct line towards the biggest metropolis EU4 has ever seen. I wonder if it's even possible to core the place. Uzbek is muslim tech group so vassalizeable, it's 5 dip points per base tax right? 469*5 = 2345 lol. I'll make it my end game goal to capture this magnificent city. Maybe a direct line from Europe to Bukhara so it's not overseas. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
They suddenly desire my provinces, awesome... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jjijBBE.png) Selling the provinces didn't really help. Russia owned me (changed government form and eventually to Muslim group well before that but obviously still no chance against Eastern tech group or Ottoman tech group for that matter). Barely survived and then came the Ottomans right after. Made an ally with France but they were too far away. Stopped playing at that point. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FTIRyFP.png) Then tried another game as Muscovy and it was all nice and dandy. Colonized everything, every inland Asia province, some islands, whole Alaska, Oregon till the mid of North America. Crushed everyone in Asia and also Lithuania and Poland. Never really had any allies and somehow Sweden and Ottoman found an alliance and attacked me. Funny thing is, Sweden crushed my 60k stack with their 80k stack in about 4-5 days. 2 days later, another one of my 60k stacks would have arrived. No idea how they did it. It was on my territory, I had same military tech and several military ideas. Pretty much bullshit. Eventually, this 60k stack just got wiped while my other troops where moving to Europe. Year should have been around 1730. Oh well, stopped playing then and didn't even bother to make screenshots. Updated my game later, getting newest expansion. Decided to go with Brandenburg this time (just like in my very first game). Austria sure got a lot of army there, 100k over their limit. Meanwhile, I had the strongest army and most reserves. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tb85VMj.png) Another coalition war. Fighting on my own, like always. Got Bohemia as a vassal in my first bigger coalition war and Denmark in my previous one. Pretty easy to vassalize large nation that way when they don't cost much warscore. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/drgKMev.png) At the end, after I had pummeled Austria a bit. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PuLYi58.png) Pretty much an invincible army. One of my 60k stack was able to defend against a 100k stack of Western nations. Prussia for the win. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7EWSUda.png) Still, didn't really get much overall. At time, I couldn't do anything because everyone was allied to everyone and Austra (+ they were defender of the catholic fate). Back then, I was a lot faster. But I think I just annexed them all which resulted in extremy high aggressive expansion. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Per7OK1.png) | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
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Gladness
United States59 Posts
On December 28 2014 02:33 WindWolf wrote: In my current game (as Oman), I have control over most of the southern half of the Arabian Peninsula. Why does Socotra count as a distant oversea province, when it borders (by sea) several of my "mainland" provinces It's based on distance to your capital, not your nearest mainland province. Portugal gets full value from the Moroccan coast down to Abda, but the adjacent Haha and the next two provinces will be Distant Overseas to Lisboa. | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
Funny thing is that I could actually declare war on him although he is my vassal and my allies (France, Russia and Lituania) would help him^^ | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On December 28 2014 05:20 TerransHill wrote: So whats the deal with client states? I created a client state but he doesnt start coring. So he is basically completly useless because he has no cores, no army and I cant annex him. Funny thing is that I could actually declare war on him although he is my vassal and my allies (France, Russia and Lituania) would help him^^ It says that but they wouldn't, they are listed as his allies because for anyone else, attacking your client would be attacking you. I've heard if you gave it too many provinces at once they can't core. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On December 28 2014 04:34 Gladness wrote: It's based on distance to your capital, not your nearest mainland province. Portugal gets full value from the Moroccan coast down to Abda, but the adjacent Haha and the next two provinces will be Distant Overseas to Lisboa. Ok, that might make sense. Thanks | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On December 28 2014 10:40 Alzadar wrote: It says that but they wouldn't, they are listed as his allies because for anyone else, attacking your client would be attacking you. I've heard if you gave it too many provinces at once they can't core. Ah shit I gave him everything I could without having cored anything. So he's basically useless now :/ | ||
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
On December 28 2014 22:50 TerransHill wrote: Ah shit I gave him everything I could without having cored anything. So he's basically useless now :/ They will take/core provinces of their own or of an accepted culture. And they should core it as soon as their admin points allow it. If its a new nation they wont have any admin points. | ||
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
But for some reason both of them who usually dominate everything are getting their asses kicked all the time and pull me into their ugly wars :S . I hope they can bounce back. Think I am going to expand towards the Mamluks now until I am strong enough to deal with Castille. Aragon has no PU with Castille though so I should probably try to take the Balearic Islands asap. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qGi6Rpl.jpg?1) | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 28 2014 03:39 Irratonalys wrote: yes , prussia is just out of control. this is the screen when the patch broke my savegame Man, how do you do this though? Just finished my second game as Brandenburg (with a different strategy this time) and while it is better than my previous one, it's worse than yours. No Iberian wedding. Aragon later forms Spain anyway. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IkOhICe.png) India look interesting. Castille colonizing happily after Muscovy got shut down hard in the beginning. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V2xygPy.png) And the end. Got most of the better provinces with Milan and Netherlands being my vassals (fed Milan like crazy, they had 3 provinces when I took them - would have taken 60 years or so to annex them though). The main problem was that after expanding and taking all the small provinces, everyone coalitioned me. Sweden, Lithuania, Poland, Serbia, France, Spain, Castille, England and Scotland. I maybe could have fought that but it would have taken forever. I also failed with Kiev. Owned Lithuania earlier in the game, taking provinces and eventually releasing Kiev. Problem was, he was a bit too far away from me to vassalize. Wanted to give him a province to close the distance but he took more and wasn't vassalizable anymore. Also wanted to dismantle the HRE since apart from my vassals and me, there was only Austria, Flanders and Ferrara there. Ferrara was the leader and elector at the same time while Flanders was the second elector. Both were in the coalition as well. Ah, and the Papal State - also in the coalition - was just north of Holstein. It simply spawned there (it spawned 2 or 3 times before), thus taking a province of my earlier vassal Bremen. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YGk7ksL.png) Enough army which was never going to deplete. Milan having a lot as well. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RaPcQye.png) Most interesting thing was that Ottomans and Muscovy got pummeled. Ottomans were in like 3 separate wars and lost a lot of land. Timurids did rather well, they lost their last war though. /edit: And something else that bothered me. Why do people always lose confidence. Like, I have full legitimacy, full prestige, no revolt risk and just declared war on a small nation and bam, people lose confidence and kick my monarch out of town. Makes no sense. | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
Man, how do you do this though? Just finished my second game as Brandenburg (with a different strategy this time) and while it is better than my previous one, it's worse than yours. I got scandinavia in a personal union , and saved my big wars for after admin tech 28 when you have increased administration efficincy (otherwise you can never take a lot of land at once). I started as TO and vassalized pomerania in my first war , i got austria as an ally und kept on pummeling poland until they broke. Livonian order is another easy target. make sure you take administrative as one of your first idea groups, because coring will be what you spend most of your admin points on , need any help you can get there. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 29 2014 03:25 Irratonalys wrote: I got scandinavia in a personal union , and saved my big wars for after admin tech 28 when you have increased administration efficincy (otherwise you can never take a lot of land at once). I started as TO and vassalized pomerania in my first war , i got austria as an ally und kept on pummeling poland until they broke. Livonian order is another easy target. make sure you take administrative as one of your first idea groups, because coring will be what you spend most of your admin points on , need any help you can get there. Ah, that makes sense then. I took Neumark first, then vassalized Pommerania, then TO etc. I don't really try to bother with Poland and Lithuania because of Aristocracy and their provinces aren't worth that much. I took a different route in trying to vassalize as much as possible. But towards the end, it becomes impossible to vassalize because the small nations hate you since you had to take provinces from The Hansa and Bremen and thus got too much aggressive expansion. Then you have to take them which results in a big coalition. Funny thing is, at one point I had 12 diplomatic relations (-7 diplo points each month), so 1 ally and 11 vassals. | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On December 28 2014 04:34 Gladness wrote: It's based on distance to your capital, not your nearest mainland province. Portugal gets full value from the Moroccan coast down to Abda, but the adjacent Haha and the next two provinces will be Distant Overseas to Lisboa. Distant overseas is kind of ridiculous. Cadiz counts as distant overseas while Tunis is my capital so really its just a few provinces away and that Gibraltar straight is kinda small... Seems like I have to move my capital away from Tunis to somewhere in Morocco. Will this make sure that all of my African and Iberian provinces wont be distant overseas? | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On December 29 2014 05:43 TerransHill wrote: Distant overseas is kind of ridiculous. Cadiz counts as distant overseas while Tunis is my capital so really its just a few provinces away and that Gibraltar straight is kinda small... Seems like I have to move my capital away from Tunis to somewhere in Morocco. Will this make sure that all of my African and Iberian provinces wont be distant overseas? Yeah, Paradox might need to rework Distant Overseas. In addition to controlling the southern half of the Arabian peninsula (The other half belongs to my ally), I also have control over most of eastern Africa (~roughly, the areas that Ethiopia and Ajuuraan owns at the beginning of the game and a bit more) and yet Socotra still counts as a distant oversea | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On December 29 2014 05:53 WindWolf wrote: Yeah, Paradox might need to rework Distant Overseas. In addition to controlling the southern half of the Arabian peninsula (The other half belongs to my ally), I also have control over most of western Africa (~roughly, the areas that Ethiopia and Ajuuraan owns at the beginning of the game and a bit more) and yet Socotra still counts as a distant oversea I really hope they do... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AYvt6kN.jpg) | ||
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