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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 21:32:46
December 28 2014 21:32 GMT
#2061
well, palermo is distant overseas for me (playing tunis, didnt move my capital)

i didnt update last patch tho, was gonna gave fun splitting russia through the middle...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
December 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#2062
really? palermo is not distant overseas for me
Respect my authoritah!!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 29 2014 07:41 GMT
#2063
Well, what's the goal behind the distant overseas penalty? The Iberians aren't even successful at conquering North Africa in most games I've played on this patch. Without player involvement (e.g. PC Tunis will generally weaken Morocco and Tlemcen), usually Morocco drives Portugal out and they never regain a foothold.

With colonial nations it doesn't affect the New World, so it's pretty much to limit European expansion in Africa, Asia, and India. If it was just distance from closest cored non-distant overseas province, I think that could solve the Mediterranean issues without creating many abusable cases.
I am the Town Medic.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
December 29 2014 18:22 GMT
#2064
so today I started a game as Aztec, trying to go for the Sunset Invasion achievement. The start was easy, I vassalized all the other natives around me so I didn't need to pay admin points for coring and could rush to tech 4 to get to the first idea group. I took exploration, started colonizing the Caribbean, Panama and the North American coast when Portugal, Great Britain and Spain showed up around 1530.
Portugal didn't like it when I tried to colonize directly next to their province to start westernizing. They attacked me with the Holy War casus belli and wiped my 20-stack with like 6 troops to then siege about half of my provinces. They didn't want to accept any peace offer whatsoever, no provinces, no releasing nations, not even me becoming their protectorate. After beating me to the ground and driving my war exhaustion up so that rebels started spawning they finally send their own peace offer: white peace.
What the fuck is the AI doing? Oo
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Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 29 2014 21:32 GMT
#2065
Been having a lot of fun with this game over the past four days, even moreso with the extended timeline mod! My dreams of a Putin simulator have come true
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 06:43:10
December 30 2014 06:33 GMT
#2066
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3 reichs are better than one

trying to use coalitions to get around Emperor calls. unfortunately its been hard trying to get HRE members into coalition, surprisingly. Even at 200 aggressive expansion they often don't join, even while they are at peace.
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HiIamBrett
Profile Joined August 2013
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 02:30:01
December 31 2014 02:25 GMT
#2067
Just finished a Venice game. Chose not to form Italy in an attempt to see how high I could push my trade values. Apparently there is a hidden cap on trade company merchants I didn't know about i stalled out on 13 total merchants until i got "Confirm Thalassocracy" for the 14th not sure if its intended that way but I wasn't awarded a merchant for Ivory coast or Siam so gave up trying to get others over 50% and focused on increasing production/naval limits. Ended controlling majority trade in 31 nodes could of maybe taken over English channel since Austria randomly gave me Friesland after a war with Bavaria/France it would of taken more ships than it could of possibly paid for though.

So here is what the Venice node looks like I'm only collecting from Sevilla other 13 merchants are all steering to Venice.
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Just a diplomatic map view to show how the pieces fell this time. Kind of proud of my Western Baluchistan vassal, they served me well.
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An extra screenshot.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 01 2015 13:13 GMT
#2068
Just finished my third Brandenburg game. Tried a different strategy again and apparently that works well. Conquered my way through the HRE. Austria even formed that nation then but got owned by me nonetheless.

Had the Hansa and Galicia as vassals. Eventually befriended France, after fighting him for some time, stopping his advance. Also allied Muscovy, though, we didn't do much together. He sure changed a lot though, became Russia, then Revolutionary Russia.
Before the game finished, I annexed part of Hungary. He was profiting from me destroying Poland and Lithuania and attacked them when they were weak.
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World view:
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Number of troops. Didn't even bother building new ones. No one had a chance against me anyway.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 01 2015 18:36 GMT
#2069
It is useless to westernize as a Muslim tech-group in the lates 1600s? This was the first time I ever had the chance to do that, but since I have shitty rulers (Combined with that I'm currently focusing on eating up small neighbors) I don't think it's worth westernizing at this point.
EZ4ENCE
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-01 19:53:22
January 01 2015 19:52 GMT
#2070
you can get away without westernizing, but I feel like you'd have a rough time against Europeans with double military ideas without it.

Until it gets fixed I'd pretty much go no-CB colony seizing with aims to westernize in early 1500s every game.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6196 Posts
January 05 2015 13:21 GMT
#2071
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This is my Najd game. Made quite some mistakes and wasn't really going for the Jihad achievement but I kind of exploded the last century. I have 344 provinces and it's 1753, do you guys think I can still make it?
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
January 05 2015 16:01 GMT
#2072
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
January 05 2015 16:37 GMT
#2073
As there is no CK2 thread, i post my question here: I'm playing as the count of nantes and i am allied with the count of auvergne. i am at war with normandy and i ask my ally to join. they joined the war but instead of helping me, they fight me and also my enemy... seems like a bug to me. anyone got more information? maybe i missed something.
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 05 2015 17:05 GMT
#2074
On January 06 2015 01:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?

No. If you want all the content, you need to buy all the expansions (more like DLC). If you don't care about economy, trade etc, you can skip those. Just take a look at what they offer and then decide.

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Conquest_of_Paradise
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Wealth_of_Nations
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Res_Publica
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
January 05 2015 17:37 GMT
#2075
On January 06 2015 02:05 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?

No. If you want all the content, you need to buy all the expansions (more like DLC). If you don't care about economy, trade etc, you can skip those. Just take a look at what they offer and then decide.

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Conquest_of_Paradise
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Wealth_of_Nations
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Res_Publica


It seems very unappealing, as the sum of all expansions cost €50 on Steam, added to the €40 for the original game, I am looking at a €90 complete game.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
January 05 2015 17:52 GMT
#2076
On January 06 2015 02:37 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:05 Lucumo wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?

No. If you want all the content, you need to buy all the expansions (more like DLC). If you don't care about economy, trade etc, you can skip those. Just take a look at what they offer and then decide.

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Conquest_of_Paradise
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Wealth_of_Nations
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Res_Publica


It seems very unappealing, as the sum of all expansions cost €50 on Steam, added to the €40 for the original game, I am looking at a €90 complete game.


just wait for a sale. Paradox-games get good discounts all the time, not only during the big steam sales. I think I've paid less than 40€ total on the game and all main DLCs (Conquest of Paradise, Wealth of Nations, Res Publica and Art of War)
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 18:04:12
January 05 2015 18:02 GMT
#2077
i finally starting playing this, for now with boring portugal to learn trade, colonization and a bit of warfare!

First thing i did was expand into gibraltar and africa, i think i wasnt supposed to do that, but i went along with it, now aragon and i sandwitch castille, who hate me for gibraltar xD.
But of a distraction while my colonies grow.






Thing with paradox DLC is that a lot of them are for very specific things that you only need for specific playtroughs and do not affect the standard nations, because half of the DLc featuires come in a free patch.
Gladness
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
January 05 2015 18:02 GMT
#2078
On January 06 2015 02:37 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:05 Lucumo wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?

No. If you want all the content, you need to buy all the expansions (more like DLC). If you don't care about economy, trade etc, you can skip those. Just take a look at what they offer and then decide.

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Conquest_of_Paradise
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Wealth_of_Nations
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Res_Publica


It seems very unappealing, as the sum of all expansions cost €50 on Steam, added to the €40 for the original game, I am looking at a €90 complete game.

Don't buy them now, the DLCs go on sale pretty regularly for 50-75% off. Steam usually slashes the prices when a new DLC launches but the most recent one was quite big so I don't know when that will happen again. About half the content from the each DLC is patched into the main game already so you really aren't missing anything vital. For example, half of AoW's content is a new world map but they made it the vanilla map too.

If you can't get at least 200 hours of play time out of the vanilla game, the DLCs won't be worth your money. No one plays EU4 for less than 200 hours though.

All that said, buy Art of War before any other DLC.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 05 2015 18:07 GMT
#2079
On January 06 2015 01:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I have a short question concerning the EU IV expansions. I only have EU IV vanilla, and am interested in getting the latest expansion, Art of War. My question is: does purchasing Art of War automatically entitle the buyer to the content of all other expansions? i.e. Must I purchase all expansions, or merely the latest to be able to play the latest version of the game?


Just get the extended timeline mod. It's awesome
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 05 2015 18:20 GMT
#2080
The thing is having all "expansions" hardly matters. Art of War is good because War is almost always a big part of the game, but stuff like Conquest of Paradise is really not that important unless you want to use a specific feature of the DLC.

It's not like Civ 5 where the game receives huge improvements every expansion, EU Vanilla is always updated with the core changes, and they also release optional DLC for some bonus features which you may or may not want to use.
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