Battlefield 4 - Page 50

On December 04 2013 05:23 Torte de Lini wrote:


That's no surprise to be honest about the rails thing.

On December 04 2013 08:21 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Seems like dragon valley actually has 4 AA's and not just 3 lol

On December 05 2013 00:29 TigerKarl wrote:
This Altai Range is the worst map in the entire history of Battlefield. I feel like all of those maps are so out of balance, because they are pure vehicle maps and suck for infantery. And that's not what Battlefield should be about

On December 05 2013 01:03 altered wrote:
Maps like the ones from CR or AK from BF3 dont suck for infantry its just that they suck for infantry in pubs because you cant count on your teammates to do what they are supposed to or you cant count on armor to take advantage of the support you are giving them. Also they take a different approach to infantry play than most people are willing to play.
What people usually mean when they say "its not a infantry map" is "its not a assault class map". Even if they play it with the other classes they play it with the assault mindset.
On "armor maps" infantry is very usefull too but the infantry has to play different roles, a role that supports/complements your armor. The problem is people in general dont really like to play anything else than the classic assault role when they are infantry wich consists purely of running to a flag and shooting other infantry players.
Planting mines, desiganting, MAVing, ambushing armor in groups and a lot of other stuff inf can do is extremely usefull on armor maps but often players dont know how to do it right or they cant because they are lonewolfing and a lot of those roles are only effective when done in a squad on TS that knows what they are doing.
And yes you cant win a match for your team on a big armor map as lonewolf assault, wich you can do to a certain degree on smaller maps but isnt that what a teamgame is all about. You also dont engage every couple seconds so the gameplay feels slowed down wich in general is something people dont want. What they actually want is fast paced Call of Duty style maps that are 5 times bigger and have better graphics but god forbid you tell them that what they want is not what battlefield is all about.
Its kind of funny reading all these complaints about the maps and armor focus because i remember that when bf3 was released people complained most about maps like Bazaar/Metro and Seine because they werent open and reminded them too much of COD. I really dont want to be in a game developers shoes nowdays.

On December 05 2013 01:39 hootsushi wrote:



I agree with you. The playstyle for infantry on these maps is something else entirely if comparing to maps like bazaar/seine and I don't blame Dice for designing it this way. My problem is a somewhat unbalanced mappool, where most maps are designed armor heavy, which almost always favors engineer class over any other (I'm talking about public matches here).
In Conquest Large (which is by far my favorite gamemode since they fucked up Rush in BF3), engineer offers way too much. It's the most versatile class, you can equip Anti-Air or Anti-Tank depending what your team needs, air lock-on is even more powerful than in BF3 and you can carry carbines, which include the ridiculously powerful ACE 52.
Comparing with other infantry classes, you are almost on par in infantry vs infantry (thanks to carbines) and absolute top dog vs armor. No other class has that much impact on a game. How often do you really need resupply on a map like golmud?
That's why I would LOVE to see Dice reintroduce seine/damavand/bazaar in second assault instead of firestorm/oman so other classes become much more viable again. We need atleast one or two more maps with primarly infantry and armored support (~ 1-2 LAVs, 1 Little Bird) like Flood Zone or Zavod.

If you are like me and your team winning is top priority for you, the game forces you to play engineer on almost every map, because of the impact engineer has on the game in comparison to other classes (again: I'm talking about pubs; I have not the faintest clue how this game pans out in a competitive environment). Maybe I'm just waaay to serious for a pub gamer, but that's my opinion at the moment.

On December 05 2013 01:18 cLAN.Anax wrote:


Thought BF was supposed to be about vehicles. O_o Do you mean a mix of both is best? Viability for infantry and vehicles?

On December 05 2013 07:32 zoLo wrote:
DICE will stop working on the expansion packs until they fix the game's problems.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/04/battlefield-4-expansions-on-hold-until-game-issues-are-resolved/

On December 05 2013 08:48 Torenhire wrote:
....this game crashes more than me in a helicopter


I mean seriously, hahaha. It's like once a map. Maybe I just need to reinstall or something.